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Latest Bin Laden Video Is a Forgery: All References to Current Events Are Made During Video Freeze
Booman Tribune ^
| Sep. 9, 2007
| George Maschke
Posted on 09/09/2007 3:57:28 AM PDT by George Maschke
Osama Bin Laden's widely reported video address to the American people has a peculiarity that casts serious doubt on its authenticity: the video freezes at about 1 minute and 36 seconds, and motion only resumes again at 12:30. The video then freezes again at 14:02 remains frozen until the end. All references to current events, such as the 62nd anniversary of the U.S. atomic bombing of Japan, and Sarkozy and Brown being the leaders of France and the UK, respectively, occur when the video is frozen! The words spoken when the video is in motion contain no references to contemporary events and could have been (and likely were) made before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
The audio track does appear to be in the voice of a single speaker. What I suspect was done is that an older, unreleased video was dubbed over for this release, with the video frozen when the audio track departed from that of the original video.
The video may be downloaded as a 677 mb MPEG file here.
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: binladen; conspiracy101; dead; fakebutaccurate; forgery; globaljihad; hesdeadjim; immigrantlist; internet; islam; jihad; jihadpropaganda; oblisakoskid; progressivemedia; spartansixdelta; stuckonstupid; ubl; vanity; video; videotape; waronislamism
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To: nuconvert
Its the media pushing the story that the video is genuine..."I beg to differ....the media is pushing the story, bad picture and all so they don't have to mention Norman Hsu and Ms. Clinton.....""Hsu-fly, don't bother me"...maybe this web has finally caught the Clintons.
141
posted on
09/09/2007 6:44:35 AM PDT
by
yoe
( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
To: Iowa Granny
He is alive. People need to stop buying into this grassy knoll stuff...he is alive.
142
posted on
09/09/2007 6:44:47 AM PDT
by
Dog
To: yoe
“I beg to differ....”
I’m not sure what you’re differing with. I didn’t say why they’re pushing the story.
143
posted on
09/09/2007 6:48:21 AM PDT
by
nuconvert
("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
To: Dog
It's Alive!!! And new and improved too!
144
posted on
09/09/2007 6:48:27 AM PDT
by
Earthdweller
(All reality is based on faith in something.)
To: spacejunkie; hosepipe
Binny and Fidel have gone to see Jesus.. that would mean theyre Christians; me no think so.
Actually, Hosepipe is correct from a Biblical perspective.
According to the Bible, everybody gets to see Jesus and is judged. It makes no difference if you've otherwise deluded yourself in this life with believing something else. Truth isn't negated by personal opinions or even a majority vote.
That's akin to saying, "I don't believe in gravity", then jumping off a building and expecting nothing will happen just because you truly believe nothing will.
So, if Osama and/or Fidel are indeed dead, they have already experienced a rude awaking.
145
posted on
09/09/2007 6:48:45 AM PDT
by
Gritty
(Two major religions the Democrats lack a working knowledge of -- Christianity and Islam -Ann Coulter)
To: Earthdweller; Iowa Granny
There is something seriously wrong with his right eye..
146
posted on
09/09/2007 6:50:08 AM PDT
by
Dog
To: Dog
"There is something seriously wrong with his right eye.." Yep...some say a really bad explosion might have injured it. I wonder how that could have happened?
147
posted on
09/09/2007 6:53:03 AM PDT
by
Earthdweller
(All reality is based on faith in something.)
To: Dr. Frank fan
If/when it becomes obvious to all that he’s dead.
148
posted on
09/09/2007 6:58:21 AM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: motor_racer
There are really gaps in the tape! Rove must have had a hand in this.
149
posted on
09/09/2007 6:59:13 AM PDT
by
gsan
To: George Maschke
The chatter and speculation on DU is painful to read. Something is fishy here and who better than the moonbats to follow a chum slick?
150
posted on
09/09/2007 7:00:35 AM PDT
by
DogBarkTree
(The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
To: Gondring
Hey..maybe he’s just had facial reconstruction over the past three years.....that would be a good idea before appearing on video after yo face has been smashed a little.
151
posted on
09/09/2007 7:01:14 AM PDT
by
Earthdweller
(All reality is based on faith in something.)
To: Maceman
Not quite. At least “Osama” called for tax cuts in this speech.
Funny...started my day with a good chuckle.
152
posted on
09/09/2007 7:09:40 AM PDT
by
Joan Kerrey
(Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
To: InvisibleChurch
153
posted on
09/09/2007 7:11:17 AM PDT
by
DogBarkTree
(The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
To: Earthdweller
Wearing the same clothes and dyed beard. Ludicrous.
To: George Maschke
Interesting and slightly hilarious.
My mom was going on and on about how his arms/hands barely moved throughout the length of the video.
To: George Maschke; nuconvert; pacelvi
Lots of things wrong besides freeze frame...Look at his nose - pointy in earlier videos Flat and majorly different in this video.
If hes dead, it would be hard to cut & paste words like Sarkozy (among others he said), since Sarkozy only recently became President
Obviously someone doesn't understand how cheap life is over there...24/7 for someone to get this right,they're not here in America with labor laws.
The thing that makes me suspicious is that his right arm/hand do not move in the whole video (of the parts I have seen) and his left hands fingers only move a little bit. In all earlier videos ,hes a very animated speaker. using his arms a lot.
Agree.
George, because you do speak arabic, were the sentence structures right, the intonations, anything at all?
I really dont understand how anyone could watch the full-length video and not catch on about the video freezes. Im sure the experts in Washington did catch on. If they are still of the opinion that this is Bin Laden, then theyre either incompetent, or lying to us. I dont think theyre that incompetent. If the experts insist that this is genuine, then theres only one other explanation....... Could they be lying to us? They could be. But thats the only other explanation.
They lie all the time...Proof? Hey jerkoff chertoff, where's Ramos and Compean, and Gilmer? For that matter, how's the border fence coming along?
Not that my opinion matters on the sublect, but Bones is correct -"He's dead Jim."
156
posted on
09/09/2007 7:22:06 AM PDT
by
Issaquahking
(N.H. FNC Debate "What did you do for America today?" Duncan Hunter for President!)
To: Dog
“There is something seriously wrong with his right eye..”
Yup. And he’s much thinner. Compare the breadth of his shoulders in the side-by-side shots. He’s lost musculature. I have no idea why people think he looks better. He defintiely looks worse.
157
posted on
09/09/2007 7:22:51 AM PDT
by
nuconvert
("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
To: George Maschke
wtf is “booman tribune” and why are its opinions being cited as a “story” here? has anyone actually looked this site over?
158
posted on
09/09/2007 7:26:29 AM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(I'm an endangered species. And I don't want your protection.)
To: doug from upland
159
posted on
09/09/2007 7:27:52 AM PDT
by
WireAndWood
(I had a pet frog, but he croaked.)
To: Issaquahking
‘If hes dead, it would be hard to cut & paste words like Sarkozy (among others he said), since Sarkozy only recently became President
Obviously someone doesn’t understand how cheap life is over there...24/7 for someone to get this right,they’re not here in America with labor laws.”
The experts are carefully scrutinizing every word that is a reference to current events. You can’t just get someone to slip something in and have it pass muster.
As for his hands not moving, watch the video. They move.
Thinking that someone with limited arabic language proficiency can just watch the video and tell more than people who speak arabic fluently and do forensic testing, is ridiculous.
Maybe you should research to find out whether Washington has really pronounced this genuine or not.
160
posted on
09/09/2007 7:34:47 AM PDT
by
nuconvert
("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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