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Cashill: FBI suppressed video of TWA (800) explosion / Are feds hiding crash imagery?
WND ^ | 8/30 & 9/20 | Jack Cashilll

Posted on 09/20/2007 7:33:48 PM PDT by cgk

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Excerpt from 2nd column: Are feds hiding crash imagery?


Posted: September 20, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Three weeks ago, I wrote about the FBI's unwitting revelation of a potential smoking gun in the TWA Flight 800 case.

I refer specifically to an amateur video shot five days before the plane's demise. The video captured an image, concedes the FBI, "consistent with the exhaust plume from a MANPAD [Man-portable air-defense] missile."

I argued that the suppression of this video for 11 years strengthens the case that other imagery – in particular an amateur video shot on the night of the crash, July 17, 1996 – might also have been suppressed.

This argument elicited some provocative responses from some very good sources. Let me cite a few. The first one comes from Atlanta, Ga.

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1 posted on 09/20/2007 7:33:51 PM PDT by cgk
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To: cgk

He was on Coast-to-coast AM last Saturday.


2 posted on 09/20/2007 7:35:34 PM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: cgk
If this info. was surpressed, then they must have gotten the perpetrator, likely the son of a rich oil sheik who was attending Yale or Harvard, out showing his friends how to use his toys at a Long Island beach party?
3 posted on 09/20/2007 7:40:58 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Perdogg
This conspiracy stuff is embarrasing.
4 posted on 09/20/2007 7:41:17 PM PDT by willk
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To: Perdogg

some is Lame Brain , not all,,..Don’t Brown Nose,,


5 posted on 09/20/2007 7:41:25 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: cgk
I’ve been flamed for saying this before, so here goes again...

TWA800 was BLOWN out of the sky that night. Our Government knows it, and many others, including myself, believe it to be true.

I don’t buy the crapcake explanation that it was a short on the wiring...blah, blah, blah.

Not many do. So, yeah, the feds have hidden the truth from us, imo. \hardhat on!

6 posted on 09/20/2007 7:41:50 PM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
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To: willk
This conspiracy stuff is embarrasing.

At least I'm not the only one who thinks so.

7 posted on 09/20/2007 7:43:01 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

8 posted on 09/20/2007 7:43:12 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

hhhmmm, now why would clinton’s fbi do that?


9 posted on 09/20/2007 7:44:20 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: cgk

Jack Cashill is entertaining but WND is a conspiracy rag


10 posted on 09/20/2007 7:46:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: papasmurf

Only the people that shines their shoes believe the Gov. is always right..


11 posted on 09/20/2007 7:46:31 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Candor7

Yeah, if the truth were know, then we would have been forced to confront possible Islamic terrorism way back in the late 90s. Perhaps, if had done this forcefully, 9/11 could have been averted.


12 posted on 09/20/2007 7:47:44 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: willk

Not as embarrassing as the cover-up.


13 posted on 09/20/2007 7:48:01 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: papasmurf

There was video shown on local NY television of the projectile hitting the plane. I saw it with my own eyes. They had that pulled within 24 hours and never showed it again. There were numerous witnesses interviewed on TV that said they saw a projectile headed toward the plane as well.

They just stopped showing the video and said that everyone who saw it was mistaken. End of story.


14 posted on 09/20/2007 7:48:15 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: rbg81

Refresh my memory. Did anyone important die on that plane?


15 posted on 09/20/2007 7:48:27 PM PDT by mazza
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To: cgk
Kind of off topic, but ever wonder how often domestic airliners seem to crash less nowadays?

I was thinking about this the other day, we haven't heard of a domestic crash in some time...

16 posted on 09/20/2007 7:48:41 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: willk

To whom?


17 posted on 09/20/2007 7:49:14 PM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: cgk

After reading all the reports on this at the time and over the following years, it seems to me that the evidence was overwhelming that TWA 800 was brought down by a missile.

Several witnesses who had been airforce pilots testified that the explosion was the wrong color for a fuel explosion. And there were numerous other problems with the official explanation.

If it was a missile, then there were two possibilities raised at the time: terrorists in a small boat, or a stray missile from the US naval exercise in the area.

In my opinion, the second theory can be ruled out. If a missile went astray during the exercise, I doubt that it would be possible to keep it secret, since there would have been numerous witnesses on the ship in question, and keeping a secret among that many people just isn’t feasible.

That leaves the other alternative, and a plausible explanation for why it was hushed up: clinton didn’t want to have to do anything in response to a Muslim terrorist attack. So he ordered the FBI to cover it up.

Keeping that secret is far more plausible, because the clintonoids in the FBI who were responsible were at high levels and eminently blackmailable. An ordinary sailor wouldl have no strong reasons to keep the secret, but a high-level FBI agent implicated in clintonoid corruption certainly would.

If the fuel tank failed (and that is extremely unlikely, technically), then why wasn’t Boeing sued? The obvious answer is that Boeing refused to go along with a bogus story that discredited them until clinton agreed to hold them harmless.


18 posted on 09/20/2007 7:50:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mazza

Just Americans,,no one important...Dipstick


19 posted on 09/20/2007 7:50:33 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: mazza

Every last soul was important to the people who lost family that day.


20 posted on 09/20/2007 7:52:05 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mazza

Did anyone important die on that plane?

Everyone was important to someone on that plane.

I do however think I know what you meant, NO Ron Brown was on another plane that hit a mountain. Vince Foster was NOT on a plane at the time of his death, at least we don’t think so.


21 posted on 09/20/2007 7:52:13 PM PDT by rineaux (Just say NO to taglines)
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To: papasmurf

yet all the conspiracy theorists want to talk about United 93...


22 posted on 09/20/2007 7:52:37 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: cgk

We know for a fact that cameras and film were confiscated from many people on Long Island who took pictures of the explosion. I wish there were just ONE smart person who never mentioned they had such photos, someone who has kept them all this time to prove what really happened.

If such photos exist, the person(s) who has them should come forward.


23 posted on 09/20/2007 7:53:48 PM PDT by Palladin (Satan to Fidel: "Let me light your cigar.")
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To: willk; Mr Ramsbotham

You people are embarrassing. Do a little homework.


24 posted on 09/20/2007 7:53:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: mylife

“WND is a conspiracy rag”

That is what Dan Rather and CBS were saying about FreeRepublic a few years ago. Until....


25 posted on 09/20/2007 7:55:22 PM PDT by JSteff (Reality= realizing you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: Cicero
Sounds like additions to the list of people who died suspiciously, surrounding the clintoonistas, however many were on board.
26 posted on 09/20/2007 7:55:46 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: JSteff

Just MHO


27 posted on 09/20/2007 7:56:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mazza; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Mohammed Ferrat, an associate of Ron Brown was onboard. (cue spooky music).

And yes, as you've heard and doubtless know, everyone on board was important to someone.

28 posted on 09/20/2007 7:57:25 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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I will always remember one of the side issues after the crash.

Clinton announced that he would be showing up at the airport to comfort the families of the dead.

Cardinal O Connor told him, if he showed up at the airport, he would leave.

Clinton backed down and did not show up.

Cardinal O Connor had to be dead for Clinton to show up at St Patricks.

29 posted on 09/20/2007 7:57:30 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Perdogg
[He was on Coast-to-coast AM last Saturday.]

That adds to his credibility

30 posted on 09/20/2007 7:58:17 PM PDT by dbacks (I forgot to pay the rent on my tagline.)
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To: Jewels1091
hhhmmm, now why would clinton’s fbi do that?

Maybe Sandy "socks" Burglar can explain!!!

31 posted on 09/20/2007 7:58:53 PM PDT by danamco (Now, I would LOVE to hear your solution as to how to remove 12 to 30 million people from this countr)
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To: mware

I agree.

Especially important to me were the 21 wonderful people from my small town in PA. who perished that night...14 fine boys and girls from the HS French club, and their seven chaperones.

ALL the passengers and crew were important. Their families deserve to know the truth of what happened that night.


32 posted on 09/20/2007 7:58:58 PM PDT by Palladin (Satan to Fidel: "Let me light your cigar.")
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To: mazza
Did anyone important die on that plane?

My pastor's nephew did

33 posted on 09/20/2007 7:59:10 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: cgk; All

Anyone here seen “The Megafix” by Jack Cashill?


34 posted on 09/20/2007 8:00:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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When George Stephanopolis was already a network commentator after coming from the Clinton administration he was discussing the issue of terrorist acts. He rattled off a list of terrorist events which had occurred during the last 10 years. He included TWA 800. I did a double take, but nobody on the set challenged him or batted an eye.

I have always read the posts on this topic since I had taken flight TWA 800 in April of that year. I still have my seat assignment coupon on the wall of my office at work.


35 posted on 09/20/2007 8:01:12 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Palladin
That is right, I recall the kids from a French class going on a trip they planned for over a year.

So very sad.

36 posted on 09/20/2007 8:01:24 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Jewels1091
There is so much crap that we have not yet discovered about the despot Clinton, and his wheelings and dealins that it will take 100 years.

The FBI was scared of Clinton, they had all the ammo they needed to impeach him early in his presidency.

So why was the destruction of Flt 800 by missle kept secret? Any one special on board, like maybe a Chinese fund raiser about to talk, or maybe Ron ( 45 cal hole in the head)Brown's cousin, or a woman in a blue dress ?

Your guest is likely better than mine.

37 posted on 09/20/2007 8:02:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: rineaux
I remember the rumor that Mohammed Samir Ferrat was supposed to be on the Ron Brown plane, but I guess only the shadow knows.
38 posted on 09/20/2007 8:03:46 PM PDT by TBall
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To: willk
When you have 300 witnesses is it still an embarrassing conspiracy? When the CIA tells you that an airplane with it's nose blown off continued to climb in altitude is it still an embarrassing conspiracy?

I agree the kook conspiracies are embarrassing. But have you read much about the known facts of this incident?

39 posted on 09/20/2007 8:04:10 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: the_Watchman; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
When George Stephanopolis was already a network commentator after coming from the Clinton administration he was discussing the issue of terrorist acts. He rattled off a list of terrorist events which had occurred during the last 10 years. He included TWA 800. I did a double take, but nobody on the set challenged him or batted an eye.

He's not the only one:

YouTube: Katie Says What?

BTW: that is quite a memento - enough to make you shudder just to look at it?

40 posted on 09/20/2007 8:04:15 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Cicero
I doubt that it would be possible to keep it secret, since there would have been numerous witnesses on the ship in question, and keeping a secret among that many people just isn’t feasible.

Ever hear of the Liberty?

TWA 800 "It wasn't terrorists. It couldn't have been."

ML/NJ

41 posted on 09/20/2007 8:05:24 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: the_Watchman
What always confused me, was whose missile was it? Remember Pierre Salinger (member of JFK's administration) was in France at the time and claimed it was our own navy that brought it down.

I have heard other reports of seeing the missile coming from out at sea.

I wonder if our navy may have been involved but in trying to intercept the missile before it hit the plane.

42 posted on 09/20/2007 8:06:37 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: cgk

The NTSB witness group reviewed the summaries and determined that the documents contained 736 witness accounts.[6] Of these, the group determined that 670 witness reported seeing something that probably related to the accident, and 250 reported hearing something that was likely related to the accident.[6] 258 accounts were characterized as “streak-of-light” witnesses (”an object moving in the sky...variously described [as] a point of light, fireworks, a flare, a shooting star, or something similar.”)[6] Of these 258 witnesses, 38 reported that the streak was ascending vertically or nearly so, 18 indicated that it originated from the surface of the earth, and 7 reported that it originated at the horizon.[6]

599 witnesses reported a fireball; of these 264 reported seeing the fireball originate, 200 reported seeing the fireball split into two fireballs, and 217 reported observing the fireball hit the surface of the water, or disappear below the horizon.[6] 210 witnesses reported seeing both a fireball and a streak of light.[6]


43 posted on 09/20/2007 8:06:40 PM PDT by hercuroc
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To: willk
Actually, if it is only conspiracy, why has the government hunted down, charged and jailed a former TWA flight trainer, her retired (on physican disability) policeman husband, former pilot and former TWA investigator?

The government (both Clinton and Bush Justice Depts.) surpressed outside lab findings from reputable labs that they themselves use in cases, former military pilots' testimony, individual private pilots, witnesses who had absolutely no reason to lie about seeing the exact same thing, miles apart who never met, spoke nor even knew of one another's existence, reassigned navy personnel who were on duty in area, out of the country for years.

Sounds like perhaps a little CYA of people

44 posted on 09/20/2007 8:07:15 PM PDT by zerosix (<Native Sunflower>)
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To: cgk

Hi cgk, regardless of the source of the post the same comments and questions have come from others over the years.

Some questions need answering.


45 posted on 09/20/2007 8:08:02 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: cgk

We don’t keep secrets very well.

Something like this, impossible to keep secret.


46 posted on 09/20/2007 8:08:12 PM PDT by ryan71 (I refuse to label anything I post, "sarcasm".)
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To: cgk
...an amateur video shot five days before the plane's demise. The video captured an image, concedes the FBI, "consistent with the exhaust plume from a MANPAD...

So, 5 days before the airliner goes down, someone sees something that sorta looks like a SAM. So a SAM must've brought down the plane nearly a week later? Where is the logic in this reasoning? I'm sure in the week preceding the crash someone thinks they saw Elvis too. So does that mean it was obviously Elvis that shot it down?

47 posted on 09/20/2007 8:08:33 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: mware
Cardinal O Connor told him, if he showed up at the airport, he would leave.

Did the cardinal have a specific issue with Clinton (this was pre-Lewinsky, but post-Gennifer Flowers and a thousand others) or did he just detest him because Clinton is a miserable excuse for a human being?

48 posted on 09/20/2007 8:08:33 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: the_Watchman
Was it George Stephanopolis who said on television that when the missle hit TWA800 they all went to the situation room of the White House? Someone else from the Clinton White House also said something similar.
49 posted on 09/20/2007 8:08:44 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: cgk

Thanks for the name of Mohammed Ferrat. Just a quick search on google reveals a lot. Clinton was something else.


50 posted on 09/20/2007 8:09:02 PM PDT by rineaux (Just say NO to taglines)
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