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Stay Away - Someone convince Mitt Romney he shouldn't talk about Vietnam.
boston.com ^ | July 29, 2007 | Charles P. Pierce

Posted on 09/21/2007 9:33:19 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: ansel12
So you hold the sins of the father against the son? Unfair and ridiculous.

I suggest you hold your fire and see how well Fred does, because we're going to need someone who can defeat Giuliani and then Hillary in the general.

41 posted on 09/22/2007 9:14:05 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney '08")
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
See post #41.

Everytime we destroy one of our own, the chances for Giuliani and Hillary increase.

42 posted on 09/22/2007 9:18:49 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney '08")
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To: TAdams8591

“So you hold the sins of the father against the son? Unfair and ridiculous. “

Not at all, I am simply pointing out that as one starts studying this political dynasty that there appears to be an agenda behind the Romney’s clawing for wealth and power and it isn’t just to serve our nation.

We had to draft Fred Thompson to run, but the Romneys have been fighting for this office for two generations and we still don’t know why.


43 posted on 09/22/2007 9:22:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: neverdem
This article sounds just like the Democrat's argument that GWB wasn't as good as Kerry since he had only served in the Guard and NOT on active duty.

What a load of crap!!!

Nowhere in the Constitution does it require military service in order to be President...or any other office that's elected for that matter.

This Vietnam Vet could care less if he served in the Military or not....or wether his children have.

What I would want to know is wether or not he would SUPPORT those in the military.

Ranting at the guy for not being in the military is stupid.

redrock

44 posted on 09/22/2007 9:43:41 PM PDT by redrock ("Better a shack in Heaven...than a Mansion in Hell"----My Grandmother)
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To: ansel12
"but the Romneys have been fighting for this office for two generations and we still don’t know why."

The Bushes have been fighting for it for two generations (and both won) and in fact two from the second generation may well have fought for it when all is said and done (bringing that total to three Bushes). Furthermore, a husband and now his wife is fighting for it.

In fact, going back to the beginning of U.S, history, John Adams and John Quincy Adams (his son) were both president, so this is nothing knew to American politics. I have less of a problem with it myself when the first generation fails in that endeavor.

There is nothing in the world wrong with Mitt running, forty years after his father's unsuccessful bid for the presidency, NOTHING.

Do you think their REAL objective is to turn us all into Mormons? I ask that question quite sincerely, because some people really do believe that is Mitt's primary goal. I'm wondering if you're one of them.

45 posted on 09/22/2007 10:04:29 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney '08")
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To: redrock

Thank you and very much agreed. Even more meaningful coming from a veteran who did serve in Viet Nam.


46 posted on 09/22/2007 10:07:09 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney '08")
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To: TAdams8591

The bushs have a history of service, in fact the Father spent almost his entire life in the service of the nation.

The Bushs have a credible image as a family that sees politics as a calling to do good for their nation.

They don’t seem obsessed by money and they pay their dues, George W. was the first two term Republican governor in Texas history. Mitt held on to office for one term and now he wants to be president, and we don’t even know what his real driving beliefs are, because he changes them for whichever campaign he is running.

There is plenty of military risk mixed in with the Bush family, so they are willing to do the grunt service along with the glamor parts.

The Romney’s only want self serving power.

Judging by the recent polls, the American people sense something troubling about Mitt, just as they did about his father.

My posts only reflect what the electorate has felt about the Romneys for 40 years, they don’t like them and they don’t trust them.


47 posted on 09/22/2007 10:31:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: ansel12
"The Romney’s only want self serving power."

We disagree, their missionary service was exemplary (not equalto military service though)and not self serving, but more on that later.

Judging by the recent polls, the American people sense something troubling about Mitt, just as they did about his father.

Thanks to some puritannical amd mean spirited conservatives, who were out in front and in full force attacking Romney from day one.

48 posted on 09/22/2007 10:36:44 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney '08")
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To: TAdams8591

“We disagree, their missionary service was exemplary (not equalto military service though)and not self serving, but more on that later.”

Believe it our not spending two years in France trying to convert people to his cult is not seen as a positive to the rest of us, and it is self serving.

A Hare Krishna offering his dedicated service working the airport crowd for two years, in place of wearing the uniform of our country would be laughed at also.

Conservatives will always fight liberal family dynasties that try to take over the Republican party, it is kind of what we do, but I shouldn’t have to explain to a freeper.


49 posted on 09/22/2007 11:15:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: ansel12
A dead WWII veterans son,

Oh, because Ronald Reagan was a veteran, it's inconsequential that his ballet-dancing son never enlisted, but it's a big freaking deal that Romney's sons haven't? At least try to be consistent!

a couple of girls, A New York liberal Mayor's son, and another girl.

Last time I checked, it wasn't an all-male service, and there is no test as to politics when enlisting. I didn't think your herrings could get any redder, but you've managed to do it.

COOL: Start thinking you robotic Cult members.

Hey, at least robots are programmed to function logically. What's your excuse?

50 posted on 09/22/2007 11:27:07 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hillary for President? In the words of Bell Biv DeVoe: "Never trust a big butt and a smile!")
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To: ansel12
"Conservatives will always fight liberal family dynasties that try to take over the Republican party, it is kind of what we do, but I shouldn’t have to explain to a freeper."

LOL, oh puhleese, stop the hyperbole, it's hardly a Liberal family dynasty. His father lost. Mitt's been involved in business not politics most of his adult life, except for his failed bid for the Senate in 1994 and his past four years as governor.

Furthermore, Mitt's running on a conservative platform, which is the same as the Republican party. No true liberal I know, has EVER run on a conservative platform.....not Arlen Spector, not Olympia Snowe, not Rudy Giuiliani to name a few. They have all run on Liberal platforms, which practically speaking is where I draw the line.

Freepers and REAL conservatives keep their eye on the ball. We defeat true liberals and Democrats, of which, Mitt is neither. In this election we must defeat Liberal Giuliani (whose nomination would destroy the Republican party) running on a Liberal platform (at odds with the Republican Party) and Hillary.

As Rush said, 'I'll take a Mormon over a Liberal or a Democrat any day.' As Ann Coulter (also favorable to Mitt Romney and Duncan Hunter said) Mormons vote Republican, and are one of the groups most loyal to the Republican party.

51 posted on 09/22/2007 11:37:21 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Mitt Romney '08")
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To: L.N. Smithee

“Oh, because Ronald Reagan was a veteran, it’s inconsequential that his ballet-dancing son never enlisted, but it’s a big freaking deal that Romney’s sons haven’t? At least try to be consistent! “

I am consistent, The Romney’s are unique in the total thoroughness of their refusal to ever wear the uniform of the United States, their individual lack of service means nothing, but when you recognize that it is a dedicated family decision then it takes on significance.


52 posted on 09/22/2007 11:41:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: TAdams8591

“LOL, oh puhleese, stop the hyperbole, it’s hardly a Liberal family dynasty. His father lost. “

Four governorships and two presidential runs shared between father and son counts as a dynasty to me.


53 posted on 09/22/2007 11:53:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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Four governorships and two presidential runs shared between father and son counts as a dynasty to me.

Uh huh. The more you spout off, the more it's clear that you have your own personal dictionary.

54 posted on 09/23/2007 12:10:12 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hillary for President? In the words of Bell Biv DeVoe: "Never trust a big butt and a smile!")
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To: ansel12
That is a pretty arrogant cult that says we send our men on two year recruiting tours and that is as good as them serving your nation. If it is so important to teach their males to be door to door salesman can’t they also enlist afterward?

You pay a great disservice to the thousands of LDS service men and women who fought, and died, for their country.

Utah sent more than 70,000 troops to fight in the Second World War, from a total state population of 550,000.

If you'd like to learn more, drop in here

...and no, I'm not LDS.
55 posted on 09/23/2007 7:50:19 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (An Army Dad)
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To: frankenMonkey

Read the thread and see the context. How many LDS women fought died in our service in WWII?


56 posted on 09/23/2007 9:09:23 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: ansel12

Try putting together a rational sentence.


57 posted on 09/23/2007 1:44:28 PM PDT by frankenMonkey (An Army Dad)
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To: ansel12
>>Romney, a powerful Mormon leader that did not serve in WWII

Geprge Romney was 34 at the time. He was Managing director for the Automiblie Association Wartime Production which was responsible for 1/5th of all planes, trucks, bombs and ammunition used in WWII.

58 posted on 09/23/2007 2:18:09 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom

See post #58


59 posted on 09/23/2007 2:19:37 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: frankenMonkey

I couldn’t find the LDS statistics at that link I only saw the numbers for the state of Utah.

I am especially curious about where you got the numbers on the number of LDS women that died fighting for us in WWII, can you share that link with me?


60 posted on 09/23/2007 4:06:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets.)
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