Posted on 11/09/2007 12:23:48 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
Former Arizona Governor Fife Symington will be moderating a November 12 event at the National Press Club where he will discuss the Phoenix Lights incident. He says he will be joined by 14 former high-ranking military and government officials from seven countries who will share evidence from what they call their own UFO experiences and investigations.
Fife Symington says he nearly had a close encounter while governor of Arizona.
(CNN) -- In 1997, during my second term as governor of Arizona, I saw something that defied logic and challenged my reality.
I witnessed a massive delta-shaped, craft silently navigate over Squaw Peak, a mountain range in Phoenix, Arizona. It was truly breathtaking. I was absolutely stunned because I was turning to the west looking for the distant Phoenix Lights.
To my astonishment this apparition appeared; this dramatically large, very distinctive leading edge with some enormous lights was traveling through the Arizona sky.
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What?
That is a photo of my Silverbug MkII when I took it for a spin in Aussie land a few years ago.
Hopefully it will not be some kind of a nasty flesh-eating bacteria.
I’m sure that there is life out there but why they would come here is beyond me. Same reason we study insects I guess.
I knew that it was a plot to steal our women!
I agree with you. A lot of folks have come to associate UFO with flying saucers and aliens and kooks. I have seen lots of UFO’s. I have absolutely no reason to believe that I’ve ever seen an alien craft.
Ever since ads for those “Girls Gone Wild” videos have been airing on broadcast TV, the UFO sightings have increased.
Good thing it’s that and not C-Span—they’d vaporize us after watching that.
Seriously, you know how the skies can be there. It was an interesting vision to us, but I truly didn’t think much beyond that— until many years later I realized many others saw it and it was an unidentified object.
If we weren’t new to the area and didn’t happen to be watching the sky, we would have missed it too.
After living with them a while they’ll just bring em back.
I have to ask you Popo, do you believe all of those statements you listed, or are you saying what you think others think about these things?
Because, if you’re simply making statements that others have said in the thread, you’re right. But taken TOGETHER, they mean absolutely nothing.
If you were logical about this you would realize that making folks making these statements are basing their believes on absolutely nothing.
It can happen tou you....
It happened to me.
Last month while traveling up Interstate 81, north of Marion Virginia, I saw a bright light to the north. It was very bright and motionless. It was not round, but elongated and thickend in the middle. The center was white and the extremities more silvery. It did not move, but remained stationary.
I later checked the location of Venus and it was definitely not Venus. It was not a plane because it never moved relative to me or the mountain. The sun was pretty much dead ahead so it could not have been completely reflective of the sun. It was very very bright against the CAVU sky.
Actually, I was giving a sample of how disinformation works.
The basic concept is to take over the debate with a combination of denials, distractions, misinformation, digression, with a healthy dollop of feigned skepticism and dismissive humor thrown in.
The typical person can be overwhelmed in such a way that even what they saw with their own eyes is either discounted or coerced into silence. Either way, the disinformation campaign wins.
During the Clinton years, it was done so often at the national level, that someone compiled a by-the-numbers list of ways that the Clintons subordinates would use to evade responsibility for serious criminal offenses. They were so well trained that they would always use the same progression every time. And it worked. It completely cowed those who had even been grievously wronged by the Clintons.
The public saw it, over and over again, on the news-talk shows, and truthfully, it represents an impressive display of discipline and utter shamelessness on their part of their defenders. It was the flip side of “talking points”, and everyone permitted to speak to had remain on message at all costs. Almost military efficiency.
But back to the Phoenix Lights. The bottom line is pretty much as I originally described. It stands alone as a unique event, with a high probability of what it really was, a US Air Force aircraft, and what it was doing, flying either to or from Groom Lake AFB, Nevada, to a flight training area off the coast of San Diego.
It really doesn’t matter why the government believes that it is vital that it be disregarded by the general public. All useful intelligence information would have been detected by any serious aircraft intelligence analyst, domestic or foreign, so the existence of the aircraft has been compromised, as well as its very general flight parameters, such as very quiet engines.
As such, it is like Groom AFB itself. Obvious, yet still denied.
On a personal note, on the assumption that it is a USAF aircraft, three cheers to the development team for producing such an amazing achievement, with the hope that they continue to outdo themselves in the future. My greatest hope is that if they do hit on a real winner, that they can get it into production, even if it will only be placed into storage for some future need.
Its specifics are unimportant compared to it being able to do its job, whatever that may be.
The simplest explanation for low numbers of videos (and that is changing)* is that UFO activity is usually very transient. A few seconds to a few minutes in most sightings. Another wrinkle is the idea that your subject matter may be intelligent and avoiding scrutiny. Intelligence meaning humans or alien.
Hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. do not practice stealth. Even surprise tsunami footage from the big one a few years ago was possible because it was a very large, non-intelligent event.
*From my reading of MUFON’s recent case files, more people are catching stuff on video these days, but it hits MUFON and other groups first, not the media.
Thank you for the reference to the book by Vesco.
I shudda put the /sarc tag on my post.
I have my own thoughts on what many UFO’s really are.
Some are new tech testing.
Others are creatures that also belong to this Earth, but we do not understand their ‘nature’ , as of yet.
There is much, in the atmosphere, and under the ocean, that we don’t know about.
Heck, most people still believe in the ‘moving’ tectonic plates theory. For that theory to work, the ocean floor would have to be liquid magma.
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