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Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 14 Nov 2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 11/14/2007 11:33:43 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything


By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 6:01pm GMT 14/11/2007

An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe, seen by some as the Holy Grail of physics, which as received rave reviews from scientists.

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The E8 pattern (left), Garrett Lisi surfing (middle) and out of the water (right)

Garrett Lisi, 39, has a doctorate but no university affiliation and spends most of the year surfing in Hawaii, where he has also been a hiking guide and bridge builder (when he slept in a jungle yurt).

In winter, he heads to the mountains near Lake Tahoe, Nevada, where he snowboards. "Being poor sucks," Lisi says. "It's hard to figure out the secrets of the universe when you're trying to figure out where you and your girlfriend are going to sleep next month."

Despite this unusual career path, his proposal is remarkable because, by the arcane standards of particle physics, it does not require highly complex mathematics.

Even better, it does not require more than one dimension of time and three of space, when some rival theories need ten or even more spatial dimensions and other bizarre concepts. And it may even be possible to test his theory, which predicts a host of new particles, perhaps even using the new Large Hadron Collider atom smasher that will go into action near Geneva next year.

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Although the work of 39 year old Garrett Lisi still has a way to go to convince the establishment, let alone match the achievements of Albert Einstein, the two do have one thing in common: Einstein also began his great adventure in theoretical physics while outside the mainstream scientific establishment, working as a patent officer, though failed to achieve the Holy Grail, an overarching explanation to unite all the particles and forces of the cosmos.

Now Lisi, currently in Nevada, has come up with a proposal to do this. Lee Smolin at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, describes Lisi's work as "fabulous". "It is one of the most compelling unification models I've seen in many, many years," he says.

"Although he cultivates a bit of a surfer-guy image its clear he has put enormous effort and time into working the complexities of this structure out over several years," Prof Smolin tells The Telegraph.

"Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory," adds David Ritz Finkelstein at the Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta. "This must be more than coincidence and he really is touching on something profound."

The new theory reported today in New Scientist has been laid out in an online paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" by Lisi, who completed his doctorate in theoretical physics in 1999 at the University of California, San Diego.

He has high hopes that his new theory could provide what he says is a "radical new explanation" for the three decade old Standard Model, which weaves together three of the four fundamental forces of nature: the electromagnetic force; the strong force, which binds quarks together in atomic nuclei; and the weak force, which controls radioactive decay.

The reason for the excitement is that Lisi's model also takes account of gravity, a force that has only successfully been included by a rival and highly fashionable idea called string theory, one that proposes particles are made up of minute strings, which is highly complex and elegant but has lacked predictions by which to do experiments to see if it works.

But some are taking a cooler view. Prof Marcus du Sautoy told the Telegraph: "The proposal in this paper looks a long shot and there seem to be a lot things still to fill in."

And a colleague Eric Weinstein in America added: "Lisi seems like a hell of a guy. I'd love to meet him. But my friend Lee Smolin is betting on a very very long shot."

Lisi's inspiration lies in the most elegant and intricate shape known to mathematics, called E8 - a complex, eight-dimensional mathematical pattern with 248 points first found in 1887, but only fully understood by mathematicians this year after workings, that, if written out in tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.

E8 encapsulates the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-dimensional and is itself is 248-dimensional. Lisi says "I think our universe is this beautiful shape."

What makes E8 so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded it at the heart of many bits of physics. One interpretation of why we have such a quirky list of fundamental particles is because they all result from different facets of the strange symmetries of E8.

Lisi's breakthrough came when he noticed that some of the equations describing E8's structure matched his own. "My brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," he tells New Scientist. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

What Lisi had realised was that he could find a way to place the various elementary particles and forces on E8's 248 points. What remained was 20 gaps which he filled with notional particles, for example those that some physicists predict to be associated with gravity.

Physicists have long puzzled over why elementary particles appear to belong to families, but this arises naturally from the geometry of E8, he says. So far, all the interactions predicted by the complex geometrical relationships inside E8 match with observations in the real world. "How cool is that?" he says.

The crucial test of Lisi's work will come only when he has made testable predictions. Lisi is now calculating the masses that the 20 new particles should have, in the hope that they may be spotted when the Large Hadron Collider starts up.

"The theory is very young, and still in development," he told the Telegraph. "Right now, I'd assign a low (but not tiny) likelyhood to this prediction.

"For comparison, I think the chances are higher that LHC will see some of these particles than it is that the LHC will see superparticles, extra dimensions, or micro black holes as predicted by string theory. I hope to get more (and different) predictions, with more confidence, out of this E8 Theory over the next year, before the LHC comes online."



TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: maybeyesmaybeno; physics; science; stringtheory; surfer; theoryofeverything
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To: Paladin2

“There is not a glimpse of physics in that paper.”

Smells like envy to me.

The surfer-dude has his union-card ( doctorate in physics, just like Einstein ) and is thereby qualified to be taken seriously.

If surfer-dude’s theory makes testable predictions, it’s at least better than string theory. Experimentation will reveal if he’s correct or not!


141 posted on 11/14/2007 3:16:53 PM PST by devere
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To: snarks_when_bored

It kinda puts all the mundane stuff into perspective.


142 posted on 11/14/2007 3:22:37 PM PST by Excellence (Bacon bits make great confetti.)
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To: All
So, just to be clear, is it the Big Doily that now replaces the Big Bang, or the Big Booby?
143 posted on 11/14/2007 3:23:26 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Oh yeah? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPjonsHzfk4


144 posted on 11/14/2007 3:37:07 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: Aquinasfan; snarks_when_bored; Alamo-Girl; metmom
As one physicist stated, I eventually came to the idea of God, and realized that the theologians were already there.

That would likely be Robert Jastrow, who in God and the Astronomers (1992) had this to say:

For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak. As he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.

May I add that the philosophical thought of your namesake, Saint and Doctor of the Church Thomas Aquinas, seems to be holding up very well these days? :^)

Thanks so much for your post Aquinasfan!

145 posted on 11/14/2007 3:46:13 PM PST by betty boop (Simplicity is the highest form of sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl
Very interesting. This bears watching! Meanwhile I'll have to check out the sources at the links provided....

Thanks so much for the ping xzins!

146 posted on 11/14/2007 3:51:51 PM PST by betty boop (Simplicity is the highest form of sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Skip Ripley
  "It's all about the boobies"

Well, then, I'd be happy to show you a nice pair!

147 posted on 11/14/2007 4:01:23 PM PST by Mike-o-Matic
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To: Greg F

Remember Spyrograph when we were kids? Well.......not sure how old you are, but.......I remember it; had one. :)

Looks like it came from that. Helluva piece here, though. The ‘dude’ could truly be onto something. I love the simplicity....although NOT quite so simple.


148 posted on 11/14/2007 4:01:38 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Dr.Deth

Damn......not only did I misspell it, but you beat me to it; hadn’t scrolled down far enough...LOL


149 posted on 11/14/2007 4:02:32 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Gideon7

LOL! You owe me a new keyboard. I lost it when I read that and hosed it down real good.


150 posted on 11/14/2007 4:05:18 PM PST by Lurkus Maximus
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To: madvlad
Leonardo Pisano...!!

I like his numbers....

TA works....

151 posted on 11/14/2007 4:05:39 PM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots..............)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. I’m not holding my breath, but I would like to see if this theory explains what mass is and why mass resists acceleration.


152 posted on 11/14/2007 4:05:59 PM PST by zot
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To: madvlad
if not able to dazzle w/ brilliance, then baffle w/ bullshit.

"If you can't baffle them with bullshit, riddle them with bullets." - Old RPG proverb

153 posted on 11/14/2007 4:25:27 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: wolfcreek
DO NOT STARE AT E8 TOO LONG. IT WILL MAKE THE WHOLE PAGE SPIN!

Quickly followed by the universe imploding.

154 posted on 11/14/2007 4:29:04 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Lisi, you magnificent b*stard!

(Thanks for the article, snarks. Not that I have time to read it right now.)

Will self-ping and bookmark for later.

Full Disclosure: I read once that Heisenberg came up with the Uncertainty Principle while ensconced in a love nest with a girlfriend for a couple of weeks; there appear to be similarities here.

Cheers!

155 posted on 11/14/2007 4:59:48 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Grut
I seem to recall that after a certain point, around 130, IQ is negatively correllated with 'success'. Also that at one time, the person with the highest IQ in Australia earned her living as a belly dancer.

This is definitely the wrong thread in which to bring up that point ;-)

Cheers!

156 posted on 11/14/2007 5:08:09 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Motl failed to get tenure at Harvard, but he’s learned nothing from the experience.

Cheap-Shot-No-Doubt-Inspired-by-Jealousy-Sarcasm-TorpedoTM ARMED. FIRE!!

Lover's tiff with Lisa Randall, no doubt?

Cheers!

157 posted on 11/14/2007 5:10:03 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

IQ above 130 should be treated as a disability by the state and those unfortunates should be put on stipend for life including an allowance for philosophy and math books from Amazon of $100 a month.


158 posted on 11/14/2007 5:12:39 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: snarks_when_bored
"...when he slept in a jungle yurt." Um...I've slept in a Yurt. The pix on the left is what you see when you look UP while sleeping/standing in a Yurt. ;)

I hope this guy doesn't go the way of that "bear expert" who was eaten by a bear and was responsible for his girlfriend also being eaten by a bear. *SMIRK*

159 posted on 11/14/2007 5:14:15 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RightWhale
IQ above 130 should be treated as a disability by the state and those unfortunates should be put on stipend for life including an allowance for philosophy and math books from Amazon of $100 a month.

Either that, or catered Subway sandwiches and Pizza once a day, and a lifetime subscription to Free Republic.

Cheers!

160 posted on 11/14/2007 5:15:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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