That must be one of their mothers in the background.
Posted on 11/17/2007 7:03:40 AM PST by tlb
I'm down to 285 lbs. Why?
Hmmmmm.
As one who has fought fat all my life, and for the most part I won but I’d sure like to knock off 20 pounds....but when the issue of obesity comes up, I’m conflicted.
It’s that old “slippery slope” thing.
Before...let me say that talk about being shocked...nothing shocked me more than the incredible amount of fat on those Katrina survivors sitting on the rooftops waiting to be saved. All I could think of is how a life of welfare leads to obesity. I’m not talking overweight here...I’m talking huge, hulking, gobs of fat that was very offputting.
But that being said, I hate the thought of the government getting involved in any kind of sanctions as regards weight. Because if they stop this fellow because he’s two hundred pounds overweight...next it will be the lady who’s fifty pounds overweight.
Next it’ll be women like me....those whose middle age brought with it some twenty pounds that hang on tenaciously.
Then, of course, we’ll have politicians picking and choosing who can be fat and who can’t. We’ll have folks adding fats to the food of the unsuspecting as a form of retribution.....
I could go on and on....
Once upon the notion of abortion seemed to make so much sense. Take them out of the back alleys and ban the coat hangers. What’s a little procedure at three months of pregnancy?
Next thing you know, to my horror, she who thought Roe versus Wade was the savior of womankind, they’re piercing baby’s skulls in the wombs and killing them a week before birth.
It’s that slippery slope and I’m willing to bet that most of America doesn’t want to go there.
She has a GREAT personality...
That must be one of their mothers in the background.
That being said, the problem I have is that all of this is a slippery slope of categorizing, judging, and devaluing human beings. So an overweight person is worse than a normal weight person? A sick person has “no economic worth” if they cannot work? The elderly are a drain on “society”? What about the handicapped? You see where this could go? Actually, not “could”, but is going... What's happening to the respect and sanctity of all human life?
Probably no smokers need apply either.
I sure wouldn't want to sit next to them on a plane.
Exactly. See my post #45.
I have a lot of compassion . . . I like to eat, too.
But glorifying gluttony is suicidal as individuals, as a group, as a nation.
I have similar feelings about the slippery slopes.
On that score, the globalists have crossed many slippery slopes already and have barely begun.
God alone is our refuge.
He loves fat people and so do I—including the one with 30-40 too much in my mirror. But I don’t love the excess choices, habits, addictions that degrade life’s length and quality.
And the problem with that is what, exactly?
I think someone saw your disclaimer on one of your threads to declare their weight to post and got an idea.
Too bad our government no longer applies this standard...although, I think that, in this case, it is a bit beyond ridiculous.
move here. She would fit right in!
Where is ‘here’?
And the problem with that is what, exactly?You don't want people like that in your country/company?
I like how you put it. I only brought up about my example's "economic worth" to make the point that there are heavy people who still cover their costs. The anti-fat crowd seems to think that all heavy people are slugs.
But in the end, you are right...."What's happening to the respect and sanctity of all human life?". How is abandoning a person in health-care-need, giving them up to die because they are over-weight and unattractive any different than aborting a Downs Syndrome or retarded baby? At what point will we start rounding up retarded children for rendering (death) to limit the cost to society? This IS a slippery slope we are on. Most young people don't think about it, but in the end, most of us will fall into one of the "bad" categories (many categories are yet to be created). That's not what I want the world to become.
Just how much burden on a health care system can a suicide bomber be? They die, don’t they. Let us keep things in perspective.
Congrats. Am trying to take advantage of the weight lost with this latest flu bout . . . making progress on some of my routines.
Thankfully, I mostly like healthy foods. But fried chicken can be a problem on occasion. And chicken fried steak.
Usually manage to limit ice cream to once or twice a month. Thankfully there’s sorbets.
I think the self-indulgence aspect of being overweight is an under-rated spiritual, emotional, psychological problem. We delude ourselves that it doesn’t matter THAT much. But it does.
It is insideous. And destructive. Doesn’t mean we should kick ourselves so much we have to rush for some more comfort food from kicking ourselves so harshly. But it does mean we have a long challenge ahead that requires all our resolve, tenacity, dogged persistence, resourcefulness, discipline, encouragement etc. we can muster and gather around us.
I had a food science & nutrition Master’s degree buddy, woman in Taipei. She’d slather on thick amounts of butter at almost every chance. I like butter, in it’s place—but a little thin coating is quite sufficient. What is with this slick slathering when her ankles were already at risk from her weight? I don’t think I ever made a comment against her butter use. She knew all I’d say anyway.
Thankfully, I don’t like cake—except fruit cake. But gads, I see folks who’s clothing looks like it’s being continually tested toward destruction . . . putting huge pieces of cake on their plates at the all-you-can-eat buffets . . . and wolfing them down as though it were their last meal. . . . the sorts of cake that are 55% sugar and 45% fat. That’s not horse sense. I realize addictions are not exactly rational.
The steps to becoming one with the fabric of the sofa are small incrimental steps. And at some point, involve enablers other than the clueless gaping mouths in our mirrors.
But daily, we CAN make small moment by moment choices toward health and life vs suicidal destruction and death.
And justifying suicidal destructive eating and death is stupid. Plain stupid. There is no healthy rationalization of such. None.
Yes, reactive attachment disorder is real. Daddy didn’t fill the love buckets when we were age 0-8. Real. With real consequences. And we have to pay the price in dogged overcoming efforts now. But that’s reality.
Denial is destructive, suicidally destructive.
Sadly, I suspect that some looming famines will impact a lot of obese people. But can you imagine a lot of desperately hungry obese people on the rampage because of too little food available? God have mercy. Thankfully, they can’t run too fast . . . and their golf carts aren’t exactly racing models.
Many of the dearest, sweetest people I know are obese. Some few from true medical complications—one hit in the thyroid years ago . . . etc. But somehow, making progress against the avalanche of fat is the only viable healthy choice.
Justifying fat and more fat is simply suicidally destructive in a list of ways.
But I don’t think I’ve said anything you didn’t already know.
I pesistently think of you as a dear precious FREEPER and always will at any age and any weight.
Whatever happened to live and let live?
Everyone has a handicap. Yours is the inability to think beyond "ME! ME! ME!". I understand. You were born that way. You can't help it.
You can lose weight.
You can't lose stupidity.
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