Posted on 11/21/2007 9:31:52 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
Apparently, America's greatest patriot was on Loonwaffle/Trooferville's favorite radio show today with the King Nutbar himself, although I'm not sure if anyone grabbed audio.
If you want to listen to the rebroadcast stream, go here. I don't feel like it. Have fun.
Has he told you this? Or is this just your personal assessment? How about a little truth in advertising.
There may be too much science in that statement for Iconoclast2, the self-proclaimed physicist.
Paul's service in Congress started in 1997, and he was therefore not part of the Gingrich led Republican Congressional victory of 1994. Where is your evidence that he had ever pledged to be a two term Congressman?
I'll have to agree with this especially the money trail.
A physics major eh?
Do you have any sort of background or (even a basic understanding for that matter) in structural engineering? Based on what you said it is clear that you don’t.
You mentioned something about molten steel. Was it structural steel or was it from from non-structural steel such as filing cabinets, chairs, and cubicle frames? There are a lot of items found in offices that are made from steel or steel alloys.
You know there is a reason why firefighters have the following saying: “No Trust in Truss”. What they refer to is the truss frame construction similar to that found in the WTC.
I don’t even have a degree in engineering but I know enough to understand that there is no way those towers could have remained standing for the following reasons:
1.) Damage to the outer and inner support structure of the impact floors resulting in greater loads transferred to intact support structure.
2.) Uncontrolled fires causing a weakening of remaining support structure to include the critical attachment points for the truss/slab floor structure. The steel may have been rated to 2000 degrees for six hours but that was with adequate and intact fire proofing.
3.) Failure of the above mentioned truss/slab attachments causing collapse of one or more sections of a floor onto the one below it which in turn has to support a greater weight than it was designed to do.
4.) Second tower hit, first to collapse was due to all of the above as well as a much lower impact point resulting in a much greater load placed upon the remaining support structure in the impact area.
5.) The impacts severed the water mains and (where installed) sprinkler systems. Even if every floor had a working sprinkler systen such a system was designed to combat localized fires (few hundred square feet) on a given floor and not an entire 40,000 square foot floor. Sprinklers would have been ineffectual against the fires due to the aviation fuel.
Do you have any evidence that the Klan staged any boycotts of the Goldwater Department Store in the 1920s?
“because they can’t refute his record or his integrity.”
His record HAS BEEN refuted, and there is no need to refute his “integrity” since he doesn’t have any.
The problem is you and your ilk refuse to accept the TRUTH about the village idiot.
Paul had a break in service from 1985 to 1997. He may be correct in calling himself a ten term Congressman, but he is only on his sixth term in his present Congressional seat.
It's different when you're in Congress. You only serve a two-year term. Paul did step down after losing in 1984 to Phil Gramm for Senate.
You've seen the way FOX News have treated Paul.
I see you haven't watched them have you? Matrix of Evil is available on line for free viewing and Paul is speaking all through it, most of which is at the same meeting, hosted by Alex Jones himself who introduced Paul.
I have no intention of watching that trash. As for Paul being in it, it still has no bearing on his views, IMO.
By this standard, you must love Obama and Hillary, they are raising a lot of money to.
Any of the other GOP candidates raking in money from the grassroots?
I see you conveniently avoided the question. Maybe I'll expand it. Not only would I like to know if there is any other media outlet Paul has appeared on as much as Jones, I would like to know if Jones has had any other guest on as much as Paul..
It's not like Paul can sit down and talk to Larry King or do a full interview on an MSM outlet. The major media have ignored Paul, which is why he's utilized the internet and going on Jones' show.
I'm not claiming anything about Ron Paul's views.
Was Ron Paul really on Alex Jones' show?
Does Alex Jones promote the 911 "truth" movement?
So, if Ron Paul, a potential president, has some semblance of credibility and then plays snugglebunnies with a 911 truther on radio or television, exactly what does that say about either his beliefs or his mental prowess?
Imagine if he was openly sitting next to some famous KKK advocate for an interview about who knows what. What signal would he be trying to send with such an interview? What posture, regarding race, would that indicate?
“I see no other explanation for the pools of molten steel, the existence of which would help explain why two towers that were engineered to survive almost exactly such a strike did not do so.”
Take the blinders off and you shall see.
The pools of “molten steel” was likely from items found in the typical office like filing cabinets, chairs, etc.
The towers were designed to withstand an impact from a Boeing 707 flying at low speed on approach (170-190mph) in bad weather with a small amount of fuel since the 707 was the most common jet in service at the time of the tower’s design.
707:
Wing Span: 145’ 9”
Length: 152’ 11”
Empty Weight: 146,400lbs
Gross Weight: 333,600lbs
Cruising speed: 525mph
Max Speed: 604mph
Fuel Capacity: 17,406gal
767-200ER:
Wing Span: 156’ 1”
Length: 159’ 2”
Empty Weight: 181,610lbs
Gross Weight: 396,000lbs
Cruising Speed: 530mph
Max Cruise: 568mph
Max Speed: 600mph +/- (Couldn’t find a difinitive answer)
Fuel Capacity: 24,149gal
As you can see the 767 is bigger and much heavier with a greater fuel capacity than the 707. The 767 that impacted the WTC hit in excess of 590mph and still had the bulk of it’s fuel since it was a transcontinental flight that would have been flying into prevailing winds and thus had more fuel (excluding the 2000gal reserve) than what would be required for a flight originating on the west coast.
“I doubt they even think there are al Qaeda terrorists. All part of a deep government plot, you see.”
They think that al qaeda is the military wing of the CIA.
They think that bin laden is a CIA agent who’s sole mission is to further the agenda of the so-called “neo-cons” and their “one world government”.
Now that is despite the fact that bin laden has always had a deep seated hatred of Americans as well as the fact that his group is an offshoot of the Gulf state financed and equipped “Arab Mujahedeen” as opposed to the Afghan Mujahedeen (that we supported).
“Hundreds of others were brainwashed into not believing they saw the people planting the explosives.”
Those sneaky MIB’s and their flashy-pen thingy.
“After calling Paul’s supporters “terrorists””
If the shoe fits......
“but I’m fairly certain that Glenn Beck has a larger audience than Alex Jones.”
Air America has a bigger audience than alex jones.
“But what could create large pools of molten steel, not just bent steel? There are pictures of some beams with portions that are described as “vaporized”.”
You mean those pictures of the beams sitting over in Fishkills?
Those same beams that were cut up so they could be loaded onto trucks that had to travel through narrow city streets?
The only way steel could be “vaporized” is if you launch it towards the Sun or have a nuclear detonation of which neither happened.
Other than that you’re watching waaaaaay too much Star Trek and Star Wars movies.
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