Posted on 12/10/2007 10:58:54 AM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- A Colorado Springs megachurch instituted security precautions after a shooting at a Denver area mission center earlier Sunday, saving "hundreds of lives" at the New Life Church, senior Pastor Brady Boyd said Monday.
A New Life parishioner acting as a security guard shot and killed a gunman who entered the church Sunday afternoon after he had gotten no more than 50 feet inside the building, Boyd said.
...
Boyd said the female security guard was a hero in preventing further bloodshed, rushing to confront the gunman just inside the church.
"She probably saved over a hundred lives," Boyd said of the guard, whom he said is not a law enforcement officer and used her personal weapon.
...
"Hundreds of lives were saved yesterday because of the plan that was put in place," said Boyd, who put the number of people on the church campus at the time as 7,000.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
“This is why Jesus told us to keep “swords” (Luke 22:36)”
I dont think I have the same take on that. His word(which cuts both ways) not any weapons so to speak
I think that female guard was prepared to called in close air support if needed. ;)
She might have. You can shoot pretty well that way as long as you don't obscure your power eye.
Consider a third. One for the indoors problems, the second for any new ones you may face outdoors. The third is the one you have to get home with, or to use to repel boarders once you get to your vehicle.
I've found ankle rigs for extra magazines to be even more useful than those for hideout guns. BTW, when I'm carrying my old Browning GP, I carry four mags with it. Two go VERY nicely in a GI First Aid Pouch, which can be snapped onto almost any belt or holster strap.
This is too good to be true.
Guns for everybody!
Actually, it was worth alot. If she was a volunteer, I applaud her actions even more. She was very courageous. What I heard on the news last night was the pastor saying that they decided to 'bring in security' and I assumed that it was her job. I still believe that the word hero is overused, but probably not in this case.
A big ol BUMP to your post #226. Spot on.
you’re kidding right?
tell me you are kidding and not just a little off
There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of some Biblical teachings.
The right of self defense is inherent in the Bible as is the right to kill someone to prevent an innocent person from being killed.
We are told in the 10 Commandments not to murder (often mistranslated as kill). Nowhere does it say that we cannot protect ourselves. Even the 12 Apostles armed themselves with a sword (presumably bought with contributions made to them).
I would agree if you're talking about a doctor or teacher, but staring down a gunman in mortal combat is something completely different.
Has something to do with victims rising against their oppressors, or like that.
The pastor said on TV that the gunman’s pockets were packed with ammo and that he could have easily killed hundreds if it hadn’t been for the bravery of this volunteer hero - YES, I SAID HERO!! - with a handgun facing a well armed mass murderer wearing body armor.
I have revised my statement, having gained more information.
My biggest issue is that here in South Texas, I have to carry a murse (as my daughters call my CC bag) because wearing a jacket to conceal a shoulder holster just gets too hot. I have one of the IWB cross-hand-draw holsters, but it just looks like I’m packin’ (and not in the “I’ve got a gun” way). Maybe just a smaller carry piece. I’ve looked at some of the Kel-Tec line, but they really look like peashooters. Any suggestions?
Colonel, USAFR
People who believe that Jesus was saying do not defend yourself or your property by way of this verse are ignorant of what Jesus actually said and what he actually taught.
I'm still waiting for CNN to come to its [socialist] senses and reframe the debate once it discovers that the counter-shooter was in fact a private citizen, not a member of the "elect" (a professional security guard or police person).
I was being wee bit sarcastic. I am in fact "security" at my church. It's a calling.
There are a couple of variations. If I'm inside a store or subroom of a mall and I suddenly hear really loud popcorn, I'm not going to assume it's lightbulbs falling from an upper tier. If there are other folks barracaded/cowering inside a store or mall office, I might pick a nice position within where I can effectively cover the door, rather than leave those within defenseless. Likewise, if on an upper story, I might prefer to cover the stairways/escalators and let my targets come to me. And just because I might have dealt with one potential hostile visitor doesn't mean I'd consider the event concluded; I've flown through Lod Airport too many times for that.
Third possibility: I might go hunting. But I've always found ambushes to be more economical.
“They were following doctrine, which reguired not directly confronting the gunmen. They thought they were facing a hostage situation, not a massacre.”
From what I read they thought they were facing a massacre but were instructed and trained to wait until they had adequate forces to handle it.
“Anymore than it is right to blame the passengers on the planes that hit the WTC for not fighting back. They were following doctrine, too”
I agree, my point was that this young lady is a hero and shows that one person can make a difference.
Far be it from me to be YOUR critic, but sounds like too many rounds compensating for a second choice weapon to me. If you are thinking fight instead of escape, shouldn't you be thinking more offensive?
They read your post!
Thank you for not having the same knee-jerk reaction to my original statement as many others. I have a cable news channel on in the background all day, everyday, and I hear the word 'hero' so many times, you cease to stop and listen. Kinda like 'news alerts' don't really get my attention anymore because it is usually a report on Brittany or something equally as trivial. Another word that has become some commonplace that I ignore it these days is 'outrage'. All somebody has to do is disagree with something these days and it is reported as 'outrage'. There is an overuse of some words that used to have a meaning that made it stand out.
I never stated that what this lady did was commonplace or that she shouldn't be held up for doing a very good thing. To be perfectly honest, if I had taken my gun to guard some folks that were expecting trouble, and trouble actually happened, I would not expect to be heralded as a hero. Guess it's just me.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.