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Is She Or Isn't She? Mummy Lab Working To ID Pharaoh Queen
CNN ^ | 12-24-2007

Posted on 12/25/2007 3:23:08 PM PST by blam

Is she or isn't she? Mummy lab working to ID pharaoh queen

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- Months after Egypt boldly announced that archaeologists had identified a mummy as the most powerful queen of her time, scientists in a museum basement are still analyzing DNA from the bald, 3,500-year-old corpse to try to back up the claim aired on TV.

DNA testing continues on these mummified remains thought to be Queen Hatshepsut.

So far, results indicate the linen-wrapped mummy is most likely, but not conclusively, the female pharaoh Queen Hatshepsut, who ruled for 20 years in the 15th century B.C.

Running its own ancient-DNA lab is a major step forward for Egypt, which for decades has seen foreigners take most of the credit for major discoveries here.

It's time Egyptian scientists took charge, said Zahi Hawass, Egypt's antiquities chief who spearheaded the quest to find Hatshepsut and build the lab. "Egyptology, for the last 200 years, it has been led by foreigners."

But the Hatshepsut discovery also highlights the struggle to back up recent spectacular findings in Egypt, including the unearthing of ancient tombs and mummies, investigations into how King Tut died, and even the discovery in the Siwa oasis of possibly the world's oldest human footprint.

So far, the science shown in the Discovery Channel's "Secrets of Egypt's Lost Queen" has not been published in a reputable peer-reviewed scientific journal -- the gold standard of scientific research worldwide.

And some scientists, even ones working on the project, have raised concerns.

"I think the people at the Discovery Channel went way too much 'CSI,"' said biological anthropologist Angelique Corthals, referring to television's "Crime Scene Investigation" series.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 18thdynasty; alreadyposted; ancientegypt; godsgravesglyphs; hatshepsut; helixmakemineadouble; lab; mummy; pharaoh; queen

1 posted on 12/25/2007 3:23:12 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

"I think the people at the Discovery Channel went way too much 'CSI'."

2 posted on 12/25/2007 3:24:35 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
It's time Egyptian scientists took charge, said Zahi Hawass, Egypt's antiquities chief who spearheaded the quest to find Hatshepsut and build the lab. "Egyptology, for the last 200 years, it has been led by foreigners."

Have I missed something? When has "modern" Egypt had anything more advanced than sticks and mud.

3 posted on 12/25/2007 3:33:58 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Real men don't vote Democrat.)
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To: blam

Zahi Hawass is a corrupt, self-aggrandizing 3rd-world bureaucrat who’s done everything in his power to stall Egyptology and take credit for other peoples’ work (Rudolph Gantenbrink, for example).

Any ‘results’ from his atelier are suspect.


4 posted on 12/25/2007 3:39:38 PM PST by KamperKen
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To: blam

She’s a real cutie!!


5 posted on 12/25/2007 3:46:08 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: blam

Wonder how long it will take Hillary to claim the DNA shows she is related and thus she is experienced enough to be president?


6 posted on 12/25/2007 5:16:29 PM PST by EscapedDutch (I used to think Islamo-Fascists were the biggest threat, but they run a close second to DemocRATS)
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To: shuckmaster

I’m sure x42 would ‘hit it’ ... he liked the last one, and she was uglier.


7 posted on 12/25/2007 7:06:29 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: blam
"I think the people at the Discovery Channel went way too much 'CSI,"' said biological anthropologist Angelique Corthals

If it weren't for the Discovery Channel nobody would have heard of Zawi Hawass. And he would not like that.

8 posted on 12/25/2007 7:12:26 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: CaptRon

Zawi=Zahi. Sorry.


9 posted on 12/25/2007 7:13:41 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: blam
"Egyptology, for the last 200 years, it has been led by foreigners."

Like this Muslims ancestors built the Pyramids, he is the foreigner.

Regards

10 posted on 12/25/2007 7:23:13 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: EscapedDutch
Wonder how long it will take Hillary to claim the DNA shows she is related and thus she is experienced enough to be president?

Dangit, I was going to say that!

11 posted on 12/25/2007 7:58:03 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: blam
Investigators have determined the mummy to be Queen Hotsie-Totsie, the wife of King Rootin Tootin.


12 posted on 12/25/2007 8:00:23 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Old Sarge

Great minds eh? :-)


13 posted on 12/25/2007 9:18:01 PM PST by EscapedDutch (I used to think Islamo-Fascists were the biggest threat, but they run a close second to DemocRATS)
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To: Larry Lucido

lol


14 posted on 12/25/2007 9:33:05 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: EscapedDutch
Wonder how long it will take Hillary to claim the DNA shows she is related and thus she is experienced enough to be president?

Hopefully it won't matter if she does. Last year in another forum we were talking about how Ramses II had more than a hundred children, and concluded that a significant portion of modern humanity could claim him as an ancestor.

15 posted on 12/26/2007 4:50:05 AM PST by Berosus ("The candidates that can't face Fox News can't face Al Qaeda."--Roger Ailes)
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To: Berosus
" Last year in another forum we were talking about how Ramses II had more than a hundred children, and concluded that a significant portion of modern humanity could claim him as an ancestor."

I don't know how many may have survived.

Disaster That Struck The Ancients

" The hieroglyphs there reported "all of Upper Egypt was dying of hunger to such a degree that everyone had come to eating their children".

16 posted on 12/26/2007 7:52:39 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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already posted:

Months after mummy claim, DNA science still lags [Hatshepsut]
ctv.ca | Thursday, December 20, 2007 | Associated Press
Posted on 12/23/2007 8:41:53 AM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1943476/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=hatshepsut

Manchester University Helps With Pharaoh Analysis (Hatshepsut)
Eureka Alert | 7-16-2007 | University Of Manchester
Posted on 07/16/2007 10:19:32 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1866972/posts

Egyptologists Think They Have Hatshepsut’s Mummy
ABC News | 6-26-2007 | Jonathan Wright
Posted on 06/26/2007 5:41:36 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856722/posts

Mummy of Egyptian queen Hatshepsut may have been found
(in a humble tomb in the Valley of the Kings)
Reuters on Yahoo | 6/25/07 | Jonathan Wright
Posted on 06/25/2007 11:05:18 PM EDT by NormsRevenge
Chttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1856274/posts


17 posted on 12/27/2007 6:23:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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To: blam

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18 posted on 12/27/2007 6:23:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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To: Berosus

That’s probably true of modern Egyptians, and some others, even though a number of Ramesses II’s kids predeceased him.


19 posted on 12/27/2007 6:26:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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Hatshepsut mummy found
Egyptian State News Service | Friday, March 24, 2006 | unattributed
Posted on 03/26/2006 11:43:05 PM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1603736/posts


20 posted on 12/27/2007 6:43:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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