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Evangelicals Sent Some Messages to the Repbulicans, but was Anyone Listening?
The Common Voice ^ | January 4, 2008 | Dan Burrell

Posted on 01/04/2008 11:55:25 PM PST by Ol' Sparky

Please allow me to slip on my political commentator hat for a few minutes if you will. At one point in my life, I was content to be known as somewhat of a political "activist" from the religious right point of view. A couple of years ago, I "retired" from that hobby believing that my time would be better spent on ministry than politics. However, my withdrawal from the activism does not mean that I am disinterested in the process whereby we select our leadership.

So, it was with attentiveness I observed the results from the Iowa caucuses last night -- particularly those from the Republican side of the aisle. While I am philosophically independent politically, I'm far more likely to find candidates who identify themselves as Republicans that match the minimum basic requirements for me to want to vote for them. This cycle, I'm thus far extremely underwhelmed-to-disgusted by the choices the Grand Old Party has managed to conjure up for a run at the White House.

But as the results rolled in from Iowa, I do believe we saw something that was quite interesting unfold. Every pundit and their dyslexic cousins noted today that Iowans voted for "change" rather than "experience" this time around, so I'll skip that obvious conclusion. Less noticeable was a message -- or perhaps messages that I believe that evangelicals, values voters, the so-called Religious Right, sent last night and that's what I want to discuss in this article.

Basically, from my perch, I see several messages that someone in the upper echelons of the Republican Party needs to read if they want to have any hope of keeping the White House this year.

Message One -- Social conservativism still matters.

Huckabee is not a fiscal conservative. That's one of the reasons I remain extremely wary of him. But when it comes down to a fiscal conservative/social liberal vs. a social conservative/fiscal moderate --- the evangelical block is going to support the social conservative and by no small margin. If the Rockefeller Republicans prevail and their boy Guiliani (extreme), the "converted" Mormon alternative Romney (moderate) or the maverick McCain (conservative, but viewed as hostile to evangelicals) is given the keys to the nomination, they should not expect the evangelicals to fall into line and pull the GOP levers. Expect them to stay home or go third party -- even for a nutjob like Paul. Prolife, profamily, pro-traditional marriage issues MATTER to these folks and they aren't going to be bought off with deathbed "conversions" and a backseat on the ticket. They are simply not going to compromise on these core philosophical issues. Period. Even if the nominee is Hillary which seems to have been their silent hope, they won't. Nominate Guiliani and watch Obama capture a shockingly significant portion of the evangelical vote.

Message Two -- Compassionate Conservativism has taken root in the evangelical community.

There is a shift going on in evangelical circles. Consider Rick Warren's P.E.A.C.E. initiative and his decision to publicly cowtow with Obama and Bono and others. Think the "Greening of Evangelicals". Consider (alleged) evangelical liberal Tony Campolo's harping on social activism. Those of us who live in the most conservative shadows of evangelicalism may not sense it as much as those who are part of the "new" evangelical wave of the megachurches and the sycophants of blown-dried personalities like Osteen and the Whites, but there is a move leftward when it comes to how many evangelicals view the government's view of helping the "underprivileged" and impoverished. They are not impressed with a culture of big business hard-nosedness that sends jobs overseas, invests in high-profit/low morals industries like porn and booze for the sake of profit, and hyper-inflates CEO salaries while single moms can't put food on the table. They may not understand the consequences of a "nanny state", but they don't like what they see happening either. Thus, a Huckabee message that would translate to bigger government and even higher taxes does not frighten them like it once may have.

Message Three -- Don't take evangelicals for granted.

The Reagan coalition of Country Club Republicans, working class/middle class and religious conservatives worked. But the evangelicals are more loyal to ideals than party affiliation. The Blue-Blood Republican set that summers in the Hamptons can't win without the evangelicals and they know it. The religious right has become very astute at turning out the vote. It's an uncomfortable marriage -- but everyone has a lot at stake in keeping it together. Evangelicals will never write the big checks that the Fortune 500 guys can and most of them wouldn't do it even if they had it -- they'd give it to or through their church instead. But the CEO's and summer-house Republicans can't do what the evangelicals can -- organize, network and get their constituency to the polls on election day in a massive way. For all the talk that the Republican subgroups are heading for divorce, they'd both better be fully cognizant that they may split the sheet, but in doing so, they'll insure that a Democrat ends up laying in the bed. The thought of having Rudolph Guiliani in the White House is as distasteful to many Religious Conservatives as the thought of having James Dobson on the ticket would be to Arlen Spector and Olympia Snow. In their failure to groom or recruit a Reaganesque or even "Bushesque" candidate for this year's election who is both fiscally and socially conservative (with a proven track record, who didn't malign the leadership of a major portion of their constituency ala McCain 2004 and who isn't from some cult where the adherents wear magic underwear and a history of polygamy and racism), they have endangered this delicate alliance and perhaps their hopes of retaining the Presidency.

There are other messages -- some of them perhaps subliminal -- and it is still early in the cycle, but I'll stop with these three. Today, I happened to be in my vehicle that isn't equipped with XM Radio and thus ended up listening to Limbaugh and his local conservative equivalent on AM for a couple of hours as I ran errands. Limbaugh has been spending so much time in Palm Beach in recent years that he now thinks a lot like the establishment Republicans. His local wannabee conservative pundit basically parroted what he was saying. Neither of them got the message as they savaged Huckabee directly and through inuendo. I'm not a particular fan of the former Arkansas Governor myself. But like those in the RNC, even the pundits are missing the point as they attack the mailman without reading the mail.

I don't have a solution for the Republicans any more than I have a candidate that resonates with me. My interest in the spectacle of the primary process actually excites me as I view the dysfunctional dilemma that lies before both parties. Both parties may see their futures tied to who got the message the voters sent to both headquarters first.

One thing is for sure. It's gonna' be interesting!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianvote; elections; evangelicals; huckabee; ia2008
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To: nuf said

I don’t kneel before Huck. Many of you seem to have him confused with God.

Face it, in the general election. Huck won’t have most of the US attention. That is probably of more importance than what we FReepers think.


61 posted on 01/05/2008 4:48:49 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
The message the Evangelicals sent is the one they have sent before: They will stab us in the back to get their way. They are our code pinks, except not as politically savvy.
62 posted on 01/05/2008 5:09:13 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Do you argue, then, that the GOP doesn’t need the evangelicals to win?


63 posted on 01/05/2008 5:29:13 AM PST by twntaipan (To say someone is a liar and a Democrat is to be redundant.)
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To: GOP Poet
The above article, with all the good, bad and ugly in it, is correct. I consider myself to be an evangelical conservative Christian. The churches will start to see things differently when the collection plates dry up because there is not enough money left to give after taxes.

In fairness though, many evangelicals voted for President Bush because he is a Christian, but has proved himself to NOT be a fiscal conservative when it comes to big government. After a while it becomes a coin toss—do I vote values and hope he turns out to be conservative, or do I cast my vote solely on fiscal conservatism and hope he turns out to have values. One heck of a choice we have here. I do try to remind myself that it took four years of Jimmy Carter to produce eight years of Ronald Reagan. We would not have had one without the other. Maybe we need another wake-up call (as much as that would pain me).

64 posted on 01/05/2008 5:50:38 AM PST by bella1 (Build The Fence Now)
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To: Ol' Sparky

How soon we forget. Not too long ago we gladly embraced him as one of our own.

Capitol Offense (Rock Band)

Capitol Offense performing at the Republican Party of Iowa’s Lincoln Day Dinner on April 14, 2007 in Des Moines.Huckabee’s band, Capitol Offense,[192] has played for political events and parties, including entertaining at unofficial inaugural balls in Washington DC in January 2001[193] and later again 2005, both organized and promoted by the conservative website Free Republic[194] as well as the 2004 GOP Convention.[195]


65 posted on 01/05/2008 6:14:23 AM PST by bella1 (Build The Fence Now)
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To: GOP_Raider

The immoral presstitutes are claiming evangelical when the support is from mainstream protestant voters.

The numbers of actual evangelicals is very small, a minority of protestants


66 posted on 01/05/2008 6:17:48 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: pepperdog

I’m telling you it is WILD!


67 posted on 01/05/2008 6:26:56 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: writer33

I thought Dole won Iowa. He won the nomination, not the general.


68 posted on 01/05/2008 6:29:39 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Face it! They are all crybabies!


69 posted on 01/05/2008 6:30:16 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: gov_bean_ counter
The Huckster has already decreed that any examination of his record will be called “negative campaigning”.

Huck was on Hannity radio yesterday. What a slimey creature. Every question that Sean asked him he turned around to attack Mitt. He's a clever politician, too clever ... and I'll never vote for him.

70 posted on 01/05/2008 6:31:50 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: GOP_Raider

We’re in this mess not because of the religious right, without which the GOP would have never achieved majority status. We’re in this mess because of George Bush’s “compassionate conservatism”. Huckabee won because he’s liberal on a ton of issues and even Republican voters are now scared of true right-wingers.


71 posted on 01/05/2008 6:32:37 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: chuckles
flag burning, gun grabbing, baby killing, communist leaning, prayer forbidding, God hating, fag lovers

A very eloquent description that I'm going to summarize with just one word - liberals.

72 posted on 01/05/2008 6:40:31 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
I'm sure I will be called paranoid but somehow this religious "war" within the Rep Party smells of origin from Clinton, Dick Morris, (who has tried to hide his association with Huck) and the likes. No one will ever convince me Huck has had "no money" and no ground game and suddenly became boy wonder. I believe he has big backing from someone liberal and they have been working in every state in churches, religious organizations etc to get him going.

That said, it just may backfire on the Clintoons unless Hillary is careful and if Huck manages to get the nomination, any Democrat will defeat him.

The entire country is moving left IMO, not just the religious right. I say that as a senior who has been watching many years. It is a bitter pill for people like me, Rush and others but eventually we will have to face it.

73 posted on 01/05/2008 6:42:35 AM PST by Hattie
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To: unspun

That is what the Huckster put on his website. When asked about illegal immigration, he said his plan was to force the illegals to go back for a FEW DAYS, then return to the US on a path to citizenship.

That is amnesty.

BTW - his website posting is as much an election year change of heart as Romney’s abortion epiphany. Years of supporting illegal immigration, calling anyone who disagrees racists...and you believe his election year posting on a website.

I don’t.


74 posted on 01/05/2008 6:43:56 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Without limited government, there is no religous freedom!)
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To: normy
If you are a born again Evangelical Christian, you might want to watch your name calling.
75 posted on 01/05/2008 6:47:13 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: chicagolady
There never would have been a President Reagan, if it had not been for Jerry Falwell, Adrian Rogers, and a ton of other grass root Evangelical’s that turned on one of their own Souther Baptist.
76 posted on 01/05/2008 6:51:46 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: bella1
The tax codes were changed during Reagan, and they were not favorable to charitable contributors. The offering’s did not dry up nor will they if Huckabee is elected.

Disclaimer: I am not a Huckabee supporter, just a sometime defender!

77 posted on 01/05/2008 6:56:36 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: bert

I have heard that Evangelical’s compromise about 25% of the total Republican party?


78 posted on 01/05/2008 6:58:47 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

Where did you hear that?

I think presstitutes puropsely confuse ordinary Babtists with evangelicals.


79 posted on 01/05/2008 7:03:42 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Hattie

The sixties set in motion a series of trends that probably doom all Western nations, including the U.S.

We’ll never survive the combined forces of multi-culturalism, feminism, secularism, environmentalism, and the sexual revolution.


80 posted on 01/05/2008 7:04:50 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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