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Goodbye New Hampshire, hello South Carolina (Fred moves on)
boston.com ^ | January 6, 2008 | Bryan Bender, Globe Staff

Posted on 01/07/2008 7:52:09 AM PST by rightinthemiddle

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To: commish
I wish Rush would break his 11th Commandment of not endosring a canidate during the primaries, and see that Fred needs help, I wish Rush would just go and endorse Fred now.
Come on Rush ( Snerdly if you can hear this ) .. RUSH !!!! FRED NEEDS YOUR HELP NOW !!.
41 posted on 01/07/2008 8:32:49 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: All

Can Fred win against Obama?


42 posted on 01/07/2008 8:35:02 AM PST by Fawn (Fred 2008)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Fred's plan all along was to focus on South Carolina.

Yes, and they shouldn't have let Iowa distract them from that focus. This is Fred's chance to get established.

43 posted on 01/07/2008 8:36:31 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Charles Henrickson
That is my fear: The single-issue Dobson mind-numbed robots voting for Huck, pulling away social-conservative votes that should otherwise go to Fred. Thus the Huck people may end up helping to nominate a LESS pro-life nominee.

At this point, that scenario is more likely than not. Huckabee did poorly in last night's debate but his supporters don't care that he's out of his depth, politics-wise.

44 posted on 01/07/2008 8:40:28 AM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: RockinRight

Hunter got 1 Fred got 3 in Wyoming.


45 posted on 01/07/2008 8:41:03 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: RexBeach
OK, I gotta ask, what happens if Fred loses SC? Is that end of his campaign?

If Fred doesn't win SC, he's in trouble. If he does lower than a strong second, he's finished. It's his must-have state.

46 posted on 01/07/2008 8:41:11 AM PST by PAR35
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47 posted on 01/07/2008 8:42:34 AM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee’s foreign policy experience consists of eating at the International House of Pancakes.)
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To: PAR35

See this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1949654/posts


48 posted on 01/07/2008 8:42:38 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Guess what? I'm voting for the Conservative. Fred Thompson.)
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To: Prokopton

You are right . . . results are not binding in Iowa, only an estimate: Delegates from the precinct caucuses go on to the county conventions, which choose delegates to the district conventions, which in turn selects delegates to the Iowa State Convention. Thus it is the Republican Iowa State Convention, not the precinct caucuses, which select the ultimate delegates to the Republican National Convention in Iowa. All delegates are officially unbound from the results of the precinct caucus, although media organizations either estimate delegate numbers by estimating county convention results or simply divide them proportionally.


49 posted on 01/07/2008 8:43:45 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: for-q-clinton
How populated is your part of the state? And is is more democrat or rebpulican

I am in the area of the upstate which contains Greenville/Spartanburg...home of BMW North America (produces the Roadster) and Michelin’s North American headquarters......so in other words, very populated. I believe for the most part this area is conservative and votes republican. In fact I am sure of it. Both of our state senators are republicans although only one is conservative (Jim DeMint)...the other is Lindsey Graham and that is all I need to say about that.

50 posted on 01/07/2008 8:44:13 AM PST by 4everontheRight ("Boy, those French: They have a different word for everything! "- Steve Martin)
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To: 4everontheRight
Fred is starting his South Carolina push today. National Right to Life, and South Carolina Right to Life will be blanketing the state with mailers over the next two weeks, and Fred is planning his ad blitz for the final week. Plus he starts his city to city bus tour today.

Not sure if the strategy of a late ad blitz and visit schedule is the smartest -- but it is the strategy Fred has chosen and the one that has worked for him in the past.

Fred seems to believe that getting yourself out there constantly at the end is more important that a long drip drip drip campaign. The problem I see though is that a lot of people have chosen a candidate, and that means Fred will have to work twice as hard to change thier minds.

Luckily though, the 3 major issues in South Carolina - Immigration, Iraq, Pro-life are the three issues Fred can stomp the other 4 in.

51 posted on 01/07/2008 8:45:55 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: samtheman
I have to agree with you and hope McCain wins

I don't know that I hope he'll win, but if he does you can be sure the media will get it all wrong. New Hampshire allows independents to vote in the Republican primary. If they end up pushing him to victory, it won't necessarily say a thing about Republican voters.

South Carolina will be a wake-up.

52 posted on 01/07/2008 8:46:25 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Charles Henrickson

OK now for all Hucks negatives and they are numerous. He is the staunches pro-life candidate in the race with the exception of Duncan. Say whay you will about Huck...one thing is for sure he is pro-life.


53 posted on 01/07/2008 8:48:00 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: BfloGuy
I am torn in NH. A McCain win seriously damages Romney as he was the presumtive winner in both Iowa and NH. However, McCain getting momentum is a bad thing too.

I am hoping it is a nail-biter that gives niether of them a big push.

My big hope though is that Huckster's bombing in the debates causes him to drop behind Rudy and Paul in NH. The furthur down Huck finishes the more it puts a stake in his Iowa win, and the more reasons it gives his Southern supporters to look at Fred.

54 posted on 01/07/2008 8:50:30 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

SC will be big. I just hope the South doesn’t get conned by the preacher man.


55 posted on 01/07/2008 8:52:18 AM PST by Sir Gawain (Fred)
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To: commish
This is no offense to Fred but I agree he must finish 1st or a very, very close second because his strategy all along has been a "southern strategy" and without the win he doesn't have a path to the Presidency.

On the other hand, and no offense to Fred supporters, but how long before we start hearing from them that 3rd place is good enough? It happened when he started his Iowa push, a 2nd or very strong 3rd place finish led the day after the caucus to a virtual tie for third place, 11% behind the second place finish was a "strong" finish.

BTW, I don't see any reason for him to drop out before Super Tuesday since there are a number of southern states that day. The only thing that would prevent him from staying in is a lack of money, and his fundraising stunts with the "little red truck" seem to be working out for him so far.

56 posted on 01/07/2008 8:54:38 AM PST by codercpc
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To: deport
McCain stomped Bush in NH in 2000 and didn’t win the nomination.

Yes, Bush stopped McCain in South Carolina -- it was a head-to-head battle.

We won't have that luxury this time. Huckabee and Thompson will split the conservative vote in half, and McCain will win South Carolina, too!

57 posted on 01/07/2008 8:59:02 AM PST by mwl1
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To: codercpc
BTW, I don't see any reason for him to drop out before Super Tuesday since there are a number of southern states that day.

I agree on the surface, but the whole "Southern strategy" is predicated on a solid jump off in SC. If he doesn't get the solid push from SC, there is no reason for the voters in the Super Tuesday Southern states to stick with him.

If he does not finish 1st or a strong 2nd in SC then sticking around until Super Tuesday is just an exercise in futility, and I can garauntee that I will not help fill-up the Red Pickup for a trip to nowhere.

58 posted on 01/07/2008 9:01:26 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
"It seems that we’ll have multiple winners, the candidate that finishes second in enough races might get the 1230 needed to win the nomination."

Maybe, maybe not, I think some states give all delegates the the winner and none to the others.

59 posted on 01/07/2008 9:05:14 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: napscoordinator
OK now for all Hucks negatives and they are numerous. He is the staunches pro-life candidate in the race with the exception of Duncan. Say whay you will about Huck...one thing is for sure he is pro-life.

Two comments/questions about that: 1) Fred is getting the pro-life lobby endorsements. Why? 2) The President can't do much to stop abortion but appoint judges that will not make up laws out of the constitution. Who do you think will appoint better judges? Fred or Huck?

60 posted on 01/07/2008 9:05:33 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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