‘Renaissance Couldn’t Have Happened Without Muslim Input’

Arab News ^ | 15 January 2008 | Hassna’a Mokhtar

[forkinsocket]

JEDDAH, 15 January 2008 — The history of science and civilization, as taught by many institutions in the West, often fails to include more than 1,000 years of Islamic heritage and civilization, according to Dr. Salim Al-Hassani of the UK-based Foundation for Science, Technology and Civilization.

“The Renaissance couldn’t have happened out of nothing,” said Al-Hassani while speaking at Dar Al-Hekma College here yesterday. “In the West, there’s total ignorance of the contributions of other civilizations. Did modern civilization really rise from nothing?”

Al-Hassani explained how many Western discoveries are of Muslim origin. There was a lost age of Muslim innovation and invention that Muslims are not communicating to the West, he said. It is not included in the their history syllabus or textbooks either.

During Umar ibn Al-Khattab’s reign in 634 A.H., Muslim women took the lead in different ways. He appointed Samra bint Nuhayk Al-Asadiyya as a market inspector in Makkah and Ash-Shifa bint Abdullah as an administrator of the market in Madinah. “Later, Ash-Shifa was appointed as the head of health and safety in Basra,” said Al-Hassani.

Al-Qarawiyyin, a spiritual and educational center that led the Muslim world for over 1,200 years, was founded and built in 859 C.E. by a young princess, Fatima Al-Fihri, who migrated with her father Mohammed Al-Fihri from Qairawan (Tunisia) to Fez in Morocco.

“Fatima vowed to spend her entire inheritance on building a mosque suitable for her community. This remarkable story is a typical example shedding some light on the role and contribution of women to Muslim civilization. Such a role is the subject of widely held misconceptions about Islam,” said Al-Hassani.

In 1993, Prince Charles said in a public speech at the Oxford Center of Islamic Studies that if there was much misunderstanding in the West about the nature of Islam, there was also much ignorance about the impact of Western culture and civilization on the Islamic world.

“It is a failure which stems, I think, from the straitjacket of history which we have inherited. The medieval Islamic world, from Central Asia to the shores of the Atlantic, was a world where scholars and men of learning flourished,” said Charles. “But because we have tended to see Islam as the enemy of the West, as an alien culture, society and system of belief, we have tended to ignore or erase its great relevance to our own history.”

Al-Hassani founded www.muslim heritage.com attracting 60,000 visitors daily in order to change misperceptions about the role of Muslim inventions in today’s schools, universities, homes, hospitals, market, cities and the world. He was one of the key speakers at the first Arab Knowledge Economy conference that was held in Jeddah on Jan. 12-13.

[VOA]

“‘Renaissance Couldn’t Have Happened Without Muslim Input’”

I love these Islamic Apologia articles.

Never a mention of what cultures/technology the Muslims simply
appropriated or destroyed when they took over The Middle East,
North Africa and the Iberian Peninsula in a campaign of rape,
torture, murder and conversion at the point of the sword.

The REAL reason there was a Renaissance is that the center of Western
Civilization kept Muslims the h-ll out of Western Europe by force of arms!

[Dick Vomer]

so what have you done lately..?

[zeugma]

Almost all of the “discoveries” they are trying to claim are either Indian in origin, or predate Islam by centuries. Islam is a dead-end religion with nothing to offer the world but destruction.

[Antoninus]

Right. Just like the Russians invented baseball, the US Constitution was based on the Iroquois Confederacy, and the Greeks stole their philosophy from sub-saharan Africa.

So much garbage that passes for "history" these days.

[ZULU]

Thank Islam for the Dark Ages and collapse of western civilization - read “Mohammad and Charlemagne”

Islam’s spread throughout northern Africa and slave and commerce raiding in the Mediterranean made communications by sea in Europe on the northern shore of the Mediterranean difficult or impossible.

[Antoninus]

To be completely honest it was the 4th Crusade with crippled the Byzantine Empire and left it ripe for the taking.

What, 250 years later? Come on. That's like blaming the British for 9/11 because they weakened us in 1812.

[zeugma]

Try doing algebra some time, and math without arabic numerals.

Neither of which are Islamacists' inventions. You can thank the Indians for both. 

[Antoninus]

As it stands today, all the surviving texts of the Athenian golden age can fit in an standard set of bookshelves from Home Depot. And that's not the fault of all the Greek monks who studiously preserved those texts until they were murdered by janissaries.

And who were the janissaries? Well, as every politically-correct American knows, they were primarily the children of Christian families who were kidnapped from their homes and raised as fanatical Islamist slave-soldiers.

Funny how stuff like that never gets mentioned in articles about the glories of Islam.

[Raymann]

No, that’s like saying Europe invaded, divided, and occupied the US for a century starting in 1812, and for the next century was plagued with dictators and civil war and was finally taken over by Mexico.

If you’re in a time of no significant technological change, you can screw over a country for centuries.

[Vaquero]

Radical Islam is an insane murder cult.
Moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West. ( borrowed from another freeper)

“I think there are moderate Muslims, they are even the large majority, but I do not believe there is a moderate Islam,”
Philippe de Villiers, head of the anti-immigrant Movement for France (MPF) party

....and lastly.....

as reported by Pope Benedict XVI 9-12-2006:

“Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” Byzantine Emperor -Manuel II Paleologus 1391

[Fitzy_888]

In the year 1768 the Muslim siege of Vienna (Austria) was broken and the last (before Today) great Muslim conquest ended.

Eight short years later, in 1776 a great country is born; it experiences the greatest prosperity in the history of the world. While Islam declines -continually.

As the liberals are fond of asking: “why do they hate us?”

From the historic perspective, the answer is good ol’Democrap envy.

[steve-b]

The successors of the Fourth Crusaders divided the Byzantine Empire among themselves for about a century after the sack of Constantinople. Eventually, the Byzanties regained much of their old territory, but were never again able to effectively resist the Turks (they were granted another century of reprieve because the Turks had other problems).

I presume you've heard of Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos (the one who said "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."). He went on a long tour of Western Europe, hat in hand, because what was left of the empire after the reunification wasn't able to sustain itself without aid.

[tortdog]

One of the goals Osama lists is the reacquisition of the Iberian peninsula. Maybe Islam can accomplish via immigration what it is unable to do by military strength.

[forkinsocket]

I wonder how severe the Muslim immigration to Spain in. I’ve never been there. In Portugal, the Muslim presence is nonexistent. There might be some, but it would come as a surprise to most Portuguese. Their immigration consists of blacks from Brazil & their African ex-colonies.

[tortdog]

Portugal does not seem to be getting most of the Muslim immigrants. France and Spain? Big time.

[Antoninus]

The successors of the Fourth Crusaders divided the Byzantine Empire among themselves for about a century after the sack of Constantinople. Eventually, the Byzanties regained much of their old territory, but were never again able to effectively resist the Turks (they were granted another century of reprieve because the Turks had other problems).

The late Byzantine Empire from before the 4th Crusade was a failing state, torn by internal strife. The defeat at Manzikert in 1071 is what spurred them to first seek help from the West. This pattern of seeking Western aid, only to cynically use it for their own gain (and often send Crusading armies on suicide missions) lasted up to the very end--when Constantinople itself was defended largely by Italian and Spanish soldiers.

[denydenydeny]

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[rbosque]

Islam is still in the 7th century.