Guide to Survive our Future Socialist Government

February 25, 2008 | Isara

[Isara]

Folks, whether you avoid thinking about it or not, we may be governed by socialists in all three branches of our government next year. We are going to get a Liberal administration one way or another. We already have Liberal judges all over the country. In the worst-case scenario, we would also get a bigger-margin Democratic congress with Liberals in the leadership positions. As conservatives we don't feel doom and gloom all the time as Liberals do (except now they have 'hope and change'). Lives go on. A good thing about being a conservative is that we prepare for a rainy day.

We can't do anything to change the mess that is going on in our country overnight. It is an accumulation of the ills in the society, planned or unplanned, from mal-education to entitlement mentality, Oprahfication, dishonest media, immorality, multi-culturalism, political correctness, motivations initiated by envy, fear and/or hatred and so on. It seems that all the fruits of these errors are going to ripen at the same time.

Let's brainstorm what may happen and prepare for it right now. We still have almost a year to do whatever necessary to protect our families and ourselves. Hopefully, we still have strength left afterwards to reclaim our country back to be a shining city upon the hill again.

[Isara]

I would like to keep this thread as a depot for resources to help us survive our future government. Please post your ideas on the most likely scenario and what we could do to protect ourselves.

[Isara]

First, let's start with the most extreme scenario of 'change.' It's less likely to happen but let's get it out of the way.

Scenario: Is it possible that our country is going to turn into another Venezuela? With a lot of youths just out from Liberal public schools and colleges and highly motivated by misguided 'hope and change', anything can happen. Moreover, many are looking for opportunities to create chaos, such as, communists, anarchists and terrorists.

Possible Reactions:

1. Sell everything and move out of the country. Is there anywhere else on earth as good as our country for us to escape to?
2. Carve out a few states and secede. Which states?
3. Create an underground organization to fight back. Better start now because they are going to shut down or bug any communication. Networking with right-minded people who you can trust. It would be tough with snitchers around especially your own kids.
4. Shrug. Flip hamburgers for a living instead, assuming that we will still have McDonald's and the like.
5. Build a hidden Shangri-la with high-tech protection and, of course, with John Galt at the helm.

[Isara]

It's likely that there will be milder scenario of 'change' at first such as, socialist healthcare, higher taxes, more regulations, fairness doctrine (I know that Rush will take care of himself), etc. before it slowly 'progresses' into full-blown socialism if we let them. We heard about the pendulum swaying back and forth, but it's never swung back to the previous right, has it? What it does is moving further and further to the left. We have to wean people off the dependency on the government. Do you think this will happen when the dependency is a goal for politicians?

Scenario: New regulations and taxes will lead to a recession. How did you survive the malaise in 1970's?

Possible Reactions:

1. Look for more sources of income.
2. Cut spending.
3. Consume less.
4. Get a secure job with the government.
5. Get rid of growth stocks and buy commodity stocks except the big oil. They are going to take the profit from the big oil.

Talking about big oil, I heard the ads from American Petroleum Institute (API) informing people that they, too, own big oil if they have pension fund. People in businesses are already starting to protect themselves and their employees from a drastic 'change' by our own socialist government.

I bet that in boardrooms all over the world, the executives and their advisors are discussing constringency plans in case that the US government turns far left. So should we.

[the invisib1e hand]

shame on you! you might as well be telling people how to prepare the spare bedroom for the home invaders.

Does anyone take being an American seriously?

[Skywalk]

Take the children and yourself
And hide out in the cellar
By now the fighting will be close at hand
Don’t believe the church and state
And everything they tell you
Believe in me, I’m with the high command

There’s a gun and ammunition
Just inside the doorway
Use it only in emergency
Better you should pray to God
The Father and the Spirit
Will guide you and protect from up here

Swear allegiance to the flag
Whatever flag they offer
Never hint at what you really feel
Teach the children quietly
For some day sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

[The_Republican]

[Sybeck1]

I am going to buy some ammo for sure. Maybe start listing myself as minority on government forms.

[Isara]

Thank you for your input. This is a brainstorming session. Do you have any more instructive suggestion?

[oblomov]

I posted my thoughts a few weeks ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1969971/posts

RKBA, for the ping list...

[Sybeck1]

I would begin moonshining, but everything you could ferment would already be so sky high and rationed.

Prepare stories for my children about when the government let you have more than one pair of shoes a lifetime.

[Isara]

Thank you very much. It’s very useful.

[ridesthemiles]

Montana already has prepared papers to secede.

[Desron13]

"I am going to buy some ammo for sure. Maybe start listing myself as minority on government forms."

I've thought about doing this for some time now. I think the idea has merit.

[Sybeck1]

I guess this Mississippi boy should get used to cold weather in the high plains.

[ßuddaßudd]

I vote for option #3 and the sooner the better.

[Digger]

It's likely that there will be milder scenario of 'change' at first such as, socialist healthcare, higher taxes, more regulations, fairness doctrine (I know that Rush will take care of himself), etc. before it slowly 'progresses' into full-blown socialism if we let them. We heard about the pendulum swaying back and forth, but it's never swung back to the previous right, has it? What it does is moving further and further to the left.

Always & RUSH keeps telling you that this country is getting more conservative. What a crock. I would predict that 12 yrs from now if 85% don't own a gun to protect themselves they are goners. When the Wall Streeters get done fleecing every drop out of the workers there will be nothing left but government handouts Y'all were too lazy or too dumb to fight them when there was a chance. Today they(elites)make no pretense of what is coming.

[Maine Mariner]

We take back the Republican Party one town selctman, one county commissioner, one legistator and so forth at a time.
We have lawyers ready to sue left wing professor for harrassement-e.g. Duke University.
We fight for term limits where ever we can. We use the initiative and referendum when and where we can.
We get slowly get rid of all of the get along go along Republican Rinos one election at a time

I am old enough to remember what was said after 1964 and 1974. The party came back with Reagan in 1980 and took the Senate.
I am not so pessimistic about November. Hillary is desperate and Barry has ties to people in the Weatherman faction of SDS.

[EBH]

I think you raise an interesting question. Many here state that as the conservative party...we don’t protest, etc. Well, why not...it is one of our Rights and we have given it away for many years. Now, is the time to take back our Rights.

1. Is indeed our Right to Assembly and yes those connections should not be ‘underground’ and hidden.

2. I intend to purchase several firearms in the next 6 months.

3. I’ve been considering going ‘cash,’ but truly am not convinced it will be of value in a year from now.

4. Victory Gardens, food has already been forecast as a potential shortage and taking the hardest inflationary hit.

5. Frugality. I’ve been visiting a good website that helps with relearning the old skills of being frugal with ones money...starting with the grocery budget. HillBilly Housewife.

6. Homeschooling. If I had children.

7. Potentially moving. Montana has been looking promising as their constitution has a clause about gun ownership. We get a gun-grab, then Montana reverts to a territory if they want. And if enough of us move there, then we can vote for territory status for violation of the statehood contract. (OK...it is a wild idea.)

[Nachum]

I can only give you the experience of my friends and relatives who survived the USSR.

First option: Leave
My grandfather took his entire family out of communist Russia, many others flee socialist countries to any remaining countries where they can survive.

Second option: Black Market Marketable skills
Many people who live in socialist countries have second or third jobs that earn money under the table.

Bribery is rampant in all socialist economies. Socialism creates instant black markets for goods or services rationed by the government. Doctors in Russia routinely accept bribes, as to do doctors in Canada. As we live in a corridor with Mexico and goods/services are allowed freely through, importation and export of various goods will expand as demand grows. Now might be a good time to build a relationship with those that can import a wide variety of goods under the table.

Third: Precious Metals
As the currency becomes systematically destroyed, precious metals become extremely popular along with other valuable items such as diamonds.

Fourth: Barter Club
Create a network of individuals who are willing to barter goods and services. It can provide necessary services or goods when otherwise unavailable or unaffordable.

Fifth: Bribe public officials

Sixth: Start farming your own yard for food.

I will leave it from here for others to continue....

[Isara]

Montana already has prepared papers to secede.

Are you serious? I heard of a project picking the best state for free people to concentrate and keep it that way. It came down to Wyoming and New Hampshire. That was a few years ago. New Hampshire is already gone to the dark side.