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Edward Lorenz, Father of Chaos Theory and Butterfly Effect, Dies at 90
MIT News ^ | April 16, 2008 | massachusetts institute of technology

Posted on 04/16/2008 8:11:13 PM PDT by mikrofon

Edward Lorenz, an MIT meteorologist who tried to explain why it is so hard to make good weather forecasts and wound up unleashing a scientific revolution called chaos theory, died April 16 of cancer at his home in Cambridge. He was 90.

A professor at MIT, Lorenz was the first to recognize what is now called chaotic behavior in the mathematical modeling of weather systems. In the early 1960s, Lorenz realized that small differences in a dynamic system such as the atmosphere--or a model of the atmosphere--could trigger vast and often unsuspected results.

These observations ultimately led him to formulate what became known as the butterfly effect--a term that grew out of an academic paper he presented in 1972 entitled: "Predictability: Does the Flap of a Butterfly's Wings in Brazil Set Off a Tornado in Texas?"

Lorenz's early insights marked the beginning of a new field of study that impacted not just the field of mathematics but virtually every branch of science--biological, physical and social. In meteorology, it led to the conclusion that it may be fundamentally impossible to predict weather beyond two or three weeks with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

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1 posted on 04/16/2008 8:11:13 PM PDT by mikrofon
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In meteorology, it led to the conclusion that it may be fundamentally impossible to predict weather beyond two or three weeks with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

Someone at MIT's gonna get it for that....

2 posted on 04/16/2008 8:13:16 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Obama hates you.)
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To: mikrofon

Wow, had one of those “THAT guy was still alive?” moments.


3 posted on 04/16/2008 8:16:03 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: mikrofon

Ah... But Al Gore can predict what the weather will be like in fifty years. LOL


4 posted on 04/16/2008 8:21:35 PM PDT by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: mikrofon

It’s not just about the weather.

The behavior of liquids or saturated steam, rushing through pipes at high velocity, is chaotic. Interior erosion of piping, such as those in power plants, occasionally rupture without warning because of the difficulty in predicting where such erosion will occurr. People die becuase of these accidents, mostly due to the very high temperatures of the water or saturated steam.


5 posted on 04/16/2008 8:23:14 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: mikrofon

OPERATION CHAOS THEORY


6 posted on 04/16/2008 8:25:44 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Erasmus; Physicist; neverdem; SunkenCiv; Fred Nerks; <1/1,000,000th%; RightWhale; ...
Like, *PING*, folks.

Sad news here.

7 posted on 04/16/2008 8:34:08 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: al baby; Auntbee; BJClinton; Dashing Dasher; dfwddr; exile; feinswinesuksass; Finger Monkey; ...

sad ping here


8 posted on 04/16/2008 8:36:51 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: mikrofon

Bump for a great man.


9 posted on 04/16/2008 8:37:36 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Jeff Chandler

Now thats funny


10 posted on 04/16/2008 8:39:46 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: EveningStar

Very sad my mom said if we farted it would rain in a day or so


11 posted on 04/16/2008 8:41:02 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: mikrofon

RIP.


12 posted on 04/16/2008 8:52:16 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~***Just say NO to the "O"***~~~)
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To: Jeff Chandler

LOL

(However, I don’t think the Butterfly Effect had anything to do with confusing ballots in FL ;)


13 posted on 04/16/2008 8:57:54 PM PDT by mikrofon (Rush Limbaugh: Father of Operation Chaos Theory)
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To: al baby

You’re the one. You caused Katrina.


14 posted on 04/16/2008 8:57:59 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: mikrofon

Quite a man, may he R.I.P.

One thing I have wondered (without possessing the mathematical or technical knowledge to answer this):

If a change of something like 0.0001 can produce dramatic effects somewhere down the line (some of idea of the “butterfly effect” I hope) then there would seem to be enormous indeterminacies in trying to assess anything as vast and complex as the earth’s climate.

i.e., can any of the current “climate change models” come ever remotely close to representing all of the complexities of earth’s actual climate?


15 posted on 04/16/2008 9:12:55 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: You dumb, bitter "typical white people" should learn to say "God D--n America!")
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To: To Hell With Poverty
In meteorology, it led to the conclusion that it may be fundamentally impossible to predict weather beyond two or three weeks with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

But-but-but- we know global warming is true!

Read James Gleick's Chaos back in the late 80's - good book for understanding chaos theory from a layman's point of view.

16 posted on 04/16/2008 9:17:18 PM PDT by Ranxerox
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I used to play around with Chaos programs on the computer years ago to help me learn programming. The math involved dictates that many human ideas and inventions cannot be made to work, no matter how "obvious" the process seems.

Positive feedback oscillators are used in every nearly every radio and every computer in existence, but they work in tightly controlled circuits. When tight control is lost the circuit function goes nuts.

Everyone has heard squealing and crackling in public address systems from too much feedback. That is chaotic math at work on the feedback loop. Some feedback gives squeals, just a little more feedback gives crackling, and just a little more feedback give popping and banging noises as the amplifier saturates at its limits. This phenomenon is not caused by electrical laws but by mathematical laws acting on signal levels and the feedback loop parameters.

Seeing a moving graph output of a running positive feedback system is a revelation - aha! this is how nuclear chain reactions work, massive amounts of positive feedback causing massive spikes in output.

Chaotic math also seems to work on the human ego - too much positive feedback results in chaotic behavior.

:o)

17 posted on 04/16/2008 9:25:29 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (“It’s not a lie if you believe it”)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Two or three weeks? Hell, most of the time they can’t get it right within two or three DAYS. I can’t even count the number of times I’ve canceled weekend plans because the forecast I saw on Wednesday was dead wrong.


18 posted on 04/16/2008 9:38:08 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Vote McCain - The Choice who Sucks Less!)
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To: mikrofon

Bump for morning reading.


19 posted on 04/16/2008 10:08:58 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Enchante
Climate isn't the same thing as weather. While it would be impossible to determine the weather 10 years from now, the climate is a different matter...much like trying to determine the outcome of a die roll--even if you knew the physical parameters of the die and how it was falling (e.g., weight, friction, density, angle, air density, air currents, etc.), you would be unable to calculate what it would end up showing when it stopped...whereas you could quite easily predict that it would be 1:6 likely to land with a single pip face on top.

That's not to say that chaos theory (or its descendant, complexity theory) isn't relevant--it definitely is! It means that we have to develop our models with these characteristics in mind.

In any case, RIP, Dr. Lorenz.

20 posted on 04/16/2008 10:57:24 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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