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The Problem with Obama's Father's Day Speech
American Thinker ^ | June 18, 2008 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 06/18/2008 7:45:18 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Nevadan

Obama’s campaign is lucky that Obama’s mother is not alive to be asked these questions. I suspect that she’d have been Obama’s “Miss Lillian”, only a lot worse.


21 posted on 06/18/2008 8:27:24 AM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: neverdem

B.O. doesn’t what his daughter “punished with a baby” so abortion is ok. Why then is it not ok for a son to leave the scene to avoid being “punished with a baby”,also?


22 posted on 06/18/2008 9:41:28 AM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08)
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To: neverdem

What struck me about the speech was two things:

1. When Bill Cosby said this same stuff the black activist crowd was ready to tar and feather him.

2. Obama is a bad poster child for this. sure, he was raised in a home with a strong male role model eventually, but we’re talking about a guy whose Dad abandoned him at the age of two, and who may be POTUS next January. That’s sort of like sending Gene Simmons (ludicrously rich; hot, loving wife; two smart healthy kids and an apparently a quite happy life) out to tell people about how pre-marital sex will ruin your life. Sure, it’s true that it’s a bad idea to screw around before marriage, but Gene’s a guy who beat the system, not a cautionary tale.


23 posted on 06/18/2008 9:55:48 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: tbpiper

You ask an excellent question.


24 posted on 06/18/2008 9:59:43 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Obama should have pointed out that the real problem is all the Black males who brag about how many women they have [bleep]ed yet could not pick them out of a line-up and have no idea whether or not they even have any children save that the girl brings suit and forces a DNA test on them. As usual, he chooses to look at the situation from an upscale-suburban-elite POV and act as if the real problem in the world is the work-life-balance of overworked stockbrokers.

Time to stop putting out fires and start talking about fire prevention; time to stop valuing yourself by how many wimmin you have impregnated and, like, get a full time job of some kind, maybe?


25 posted on 06/18/2008 10:14:12 AM PDT by Appleby
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To: neverdem
Kind of reminds me of a debate I overheard a few years ago among a bunch of high school juniors and seniors over whether the boy or girl was most to blame if a girl got pregnant.

Finally, "Johnny" (who was rather a trouble-maker and not very academically inclined) effectively ended the debate with the following proclamation: "I think if a girl don't wanna get pregnant, she don't need to be spreading her legs, and if a boy don't wanna get a girl pregnant, he don't need to be sticking his thing between her legs."

Pretty well sums it up.

26 posted on 06/18/2008 10:34:20 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Mr. Silverback
Gene Simmons (ludicrously rich; hot, loving wife; two smart healthy kids and an apparently a quite happy life)

I get the gist of your post but I don't think Gene Simmons is married. Also, I can't for the life of me believe why some women think this man is "hot" other than for his ca$h.

27 posted on 06/18/2008 11:07:23 AM PDT by frogjerk (Barry Hussein is Neville Chamberlain)
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To: neverdem
The Problem with Obama's Father's Day Speech

There were many problems with his speech. But for some odd reason the MSM/DBM missed it while they laid prone on the floor praying at his feet, to wit:

Like I said, IMO there were a 'few problems' with his speech. But only if you're a taxpayer with a job.

28 posted on 06/18/2008 11:10:31 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: frogjerk

No, Simmons isn’t married. He and Shannon Tweed have been living together for about 20 years. He even says that the secret to is and Tweeds happiness is the fact that they aren’t married, and that marriage makes people unhappy on balance. My answer to that is, “Speak for youself, buddy.”


29 posted on 06/18/2008 11:58:45 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Amelia

Johnny is wise beyond his years.


30 posted on 06/18/2008 12:00:22 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Something else that struck me about Obama's speech was his equating fathers who are AWOL with fathers who are MIA.

Does he even know what MIA means?

31 posted on 06/18/2008 12:36:21 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Johnny” really had more sense than the rest of those kids put together. I hope he has done well. The year I taught him he was living with his grandparents, but the next year he went to live with his mother about 300 miles away.


32 posted on 06/18/2008 1:01:21 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Churchillspirit

You make an excellent point and I’m surprised I hadn’t caught that myself. Yeah, it really is pretty silly to describe anyone shirking their responsibilities as “MIA” because you can’t be MIA while being away from what you’re suppposed to be doing.


33 posted on 06/18/2008 2:02:15 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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I cannot believe that the responsible media has not picked up on Obama's MIA remark.An insult to those who are not at home through no fault of their own.

God bless all those who truly are MIA.

34 posted on 06/18/2008 2:06:06 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: Churchillspirit

I’ll mention it on my blog and give you credit.


35 posted on 06/18/2008 2:24:14 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Thank you.
36 posted on 06/18/2008 2:26:41 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: neverdem

dear scrawny shit: if you think blacks are angry, just wait till you tangle with a disenfranchised dad.


37 posted on 06/18/2008 2:57:27 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The Divine Comedy is not very funny.)
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To: neverdem

The problem with Obama, like most Dems, refuses to pinpoint the most important SINGLE cause of the cultural degradation in much of the black community. That cause is the destruction of the 2 parent black family. The precipitate cause of this tragedy was the welfare state created by LBJ and (mostly) the DemocRAT Party. But since Barack He who must not be middle named Obama wants to extend and expand the welfare state to all of America, he is careful to avoid drawing the correct conclusions. Oh he gives lip service to the notion of personal responsibility, but is extremely careful to avoid any implication of the DemocRAT Party.
When you point out that the Democratic Party’s entire history and policies have been antithetical to the best interests of the black community, and that to the extent that a major political party is responsible for any political and civil liberty that black people have, they owe it to the Republican Party, and even when you can prove that historically and factually the most amazing case of political cognitive dissonance then occurs.

The common response is, well that may be true but only the Democrats are “for us”. They usually go on to an entirely erroneous understanding of Nixon’s Southern strategy, a distortion of Berry Goldwater’s principled opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and completely ignore the fact that the Democratic Party was founded amongst other things, to extend slavery into the territory’s. The Democratic Party opposed 13, 14, and 15th amendment to the United States Constitution, reconstruction, every bit of foundational civil rights legislation from 1866 to 1968, instituted Jim Crow in the Southern states, refused to enact antilynching laws, and most importantly destroyed the two-parent black family with Lyndon Johnson’s welfare state. When you point out the fact that the modern-day Democratic Party is home to the pro-abortion forces that have enhanced the wildly disproportionate abortion rate in the black community, that doesn’t seem to register either.

The black community is in the throes of the worst political brainwashing outside of the Soviet Union and I just don’t know what can be done about it. I am constantly engaged in debates with people in my community and they are determined to vote for Democrats despite the clear and present evidence of their utterly destructive policies. The staggeringly high level of political cognitive dissonance amongst my people is frightening.


38 posted on 06/18/2008 6:28:50 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank
The black community is in the throes of the worst political brainwashing outside of the Soviet Union and I just don’t know what can be done about it.

The Marxist Laboratory.


39 posted on 06/18/2008 8:40:43 PM PDT by rdb3 (Upward, onward, beyond...)
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thanks neverdem.

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40 posted on 06/19/2008 10:04:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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