Skip to comments.About the Washington Post Hit Piece on Free Republic Today
Posted on 06/28/2008 10:36:43 AM PDT by kristinn
The Washington Post published an article today in the Style section about researcher Danielle Allen's efforts to track down who is behind allegations that presumed Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Hussein Obama (Illinois) is a Muslim. Allen is an Obama supporter who works for the Institute for Advanced Study.
The article was written by Matthew Mosk. A curious choice for The Post considering Mosk's involvement in the nefarious MD4Bush scandal in which Mosk claimed to have been given access to a Free Republic poster's account to expose a Maryland GOP government appointee who was alleged to have commented on rumors that a Maryland Democratic mayor was an adulterer.
Mosk displayed the same talent for exposing Freepers' identities in today's article that he did in the MD4Bush scandal. However, the only person he exposed then was the Republican. The person (or persons) behind the MD4Bush screen name was not reported by Mosk.
The article Mosk wrote today purports to be about efforts to track down where the 'Obama is a Muslim' allegations began. However, it is actually a warning shot across the bow to opponents of Obama that they will be tracked down and exposed for speaking ill of the Obamessiah.
Mosk even makes sure to let Obamaniacs know who is behind Free Republic and where he can be found:
Of the file folders that are spread in neat rows across Allen's desk, only one is bulging. It holds printouts of the reams of conversations about Obama's religion appearing on Free Republic. Since its start in 1996 by Jim Robinson of Fresno, Calif....
The effort by The Post to protect Obama from rumors is in stark contrast to how they promoted potentially candidacy-damaging rumors eight-years ago.
When George W. Bush ran for president in 1999, The Washington Post led the way in rumor-mongering about whether he used cocaine in his youth. Bush refused to deny cocaine use saying that denying rumors just leads to having to deny more and more rumors. No one ever came forward with allegatons that they had first-hand knowledge of Bush using cocaine, but that didn't stop The Post and the mainstream media as painting Bush as a cokehead. No reporter ever asked Bill Clinton about cocaine use, even though several people known to Clinton claimed to have first-hand knowledge of Clinton using the drug while in public office.
While Mosk ignores The Post's own rumor-mongering, he leaves the impression of Free Republic as the rumor mill of the right. A fair reporter would have noted that Freepers exposed the fraudulent Texas Air National Guard documents that CBS News used in its attempt to derail President Bush's reelection bid in 2004. Buckhead, the Freeper who called foul on the documents, was tracked down by the Los Angeles Times even though he did not post his name on Free Republic.
Mosk's article closes with Allen complaining that the Internet has become as influential as unions and political action committees (PACs) in elections. Unstated is that the political activities of unions and PACs are heavily regulated by the federal government.
Allen seriously misunderstands the right to anonymous political speech--equating political speech with the right of a citizen to face his accuser when charged with a crime by the government:
..."This kind of misinformation campaign short-circuits judgment. It also aggressively disregards the fundamental principle of free societies that one be able to debate one's accusers."
While Mosk and The Post are furiously protecting Obama from the Obama is a Muslim allegation, they steadfstly refuse to report on Obama's well-documented connection to the terrorist supporter and Osama bin Laden sympathizer, Jodie Evans, co-founder of the anti-American group Code Pink.
The Post article claims that the Internet's danger to politics is the ability to spread rumors anonymously. The real danger is the left's willingness to use the Internet to track down and destroy its perceived enemies. Allen and Mosk's teamwork exposing Freepers is one more example of that.
I agree. And the members don't even make much of a comment when they write. It's like reading a chat session without the movement. I guess they don't really have a lengthy opinion anyway, they are just there for the group think.
We were able to get a settlement from them but that meant we could no longer publsih their entire articles and now everyone will have to click on the link and we all know that when you clikc on the links, it generates money.
Jimrob might be able to explain this whole mess better than I can but I think it's quite obvious the mainstream media does not think very highly of conversatives like us here at FR.
And, if they could they'd drive us to bankruptcy.
These people aren't our friends they're our enemies and it certainly in this hit piece by the Post on FR.
I don’t dare let go of my pickup truck...
You can’t use the NY Times to tie Obama to the Islamic call to prayer. That newspaper has been known to make things up before.
It is a crackpot site. < /s >
Am I wrong?
agreed...the more we get under the skin of the lunatic left and their mouthpieces in the liberal media the more it means we are making a difference and making waves...
if no one is paying attention to you no one cares....
well at least in counselling homosexual couples, she doesn’t have to have those uncomfortable drawn out calls with a guy about being some baby’s father and needing to man up on the child support...
I saw that, And I understand Obama Loves the sound of call to prayers ,he says it is one of the sweetest sounds on earth. its quite obvious that he is a muslim
>It is apparent that no faith holds for him over politics. Don’t cling to religion.<
He’s a Halfrican searching for a higher power and I think he believes that he’s it.
Are you suggesting that Obama would throw his religion under the bus for political reasons and flip on issues? How can you be so cynical? He has never been known to make such political moves. He always sticks by his original decisions and has exemplar associates in his background. /s
“Be careful Freepers”
Many conservatives and freepers think of the liberal as wily nily bleeding heart eco-geek pansies. Maybe some of the rank and file, but the cadre of hard core liberals are very dedicated and should not be underestimated. They are expert at conjoining the powers of the governement, media and academia to further their cause “by any means necessary”.
"We will not be swift-boated," said Obama communications director Robert Gibbs. "And we won't take allegations that are patently untrue lying down."
Obama's mother, divorced from Obama's father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.
The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn't sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim.
"Senator Obama has never been a Muslim," Gibbs said. "As a six-year-old in Catholic school, he studied the catechism."
The Illinois senator is a member of the United Church of Christ.
So when and where was he baptised as a Catholic? Did he go through confirmation? First communion?
Or is it like a lapel flag pin and just some ritual that people do for others to show they "care" more about religion than you do?
This is why I contribute to Free Republic!!!!!!......
In Old America, you check books out of library. In Obama’s CHANGED America, library checks you out.
The point is that the pressure works.
Isn’t this off-message? I thought the source of the Obama is Muslim rumor was “Jews reading emails” according to Obama and his crew. Now it’s us? What next?
There! I said it, again, and again, and again.
His own brother has said so. Why no expose of him?
Which of the Democrats' new gods would win in a battle for ultimate religious leader between Obama and Gore?
How about the fact that Obama is a far left radical — dare I say — MARXIST?
Is the Post investigating that?
The DNC house organ cannot throw Jews in total under the bus. They get touchy about such generalizations after the centuries long mistreatment that culminated in the Holocaust of the 20th century.
I just wondered if you had read the “hit piece” in Washington Post on Freepers, and supposedly “taking them down regarding Obama”...I saw you were on another thread so hoped you saw this.
Danielle Allen [Ramesh Ponnuru]
I have not followed her career, although I hear that her books are excellent. I knew her slightly in college. She was razor-sharp, and conservative. She interned at NR.
06/28 11:04 AM
Thanks for the background info. It’s amazing how the “press” can oppose freedom of speech.
Senator Obama recited the shahada to the New York Times in 2007:
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (itll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.
(From Nicholas Kristof's column Obama: Man of the World in the New York Times of March 6th, 2007.)
The call to prayer, the adhan, begins with the shahada, the Islamic creed. As you mention, a single sincere recitation of the shahada is all that is required to be a professing Muslim.
Doesn’t the mainstream media routinely spread rumors anonymously via quotes from unnamed sources and unsigned editorials?
Freepers who post details about their private lives online leave tidbits of information an investigator can piece together to figure out who you are.
btw just posted this..
Hey I shot down the WPO, Salon and CNN all while sitting here in my pajamas ;-)
I might not be famous now... but I will be famous very very soon.
The big surprise is coming. The mother of all swiftboats.
Rest assured FRiends that Obama will never see the Whitehouse.
...scheme hatched by the Obama campaign to 1) distract attention from what sort of a Christian hes REALLY been all these years, and 2) make conservatives look like idiots for swallowing silly rumors and latching onto ultra-skimpy evidence of Obamas alleged Muslim identity.
Agreed. It is fair to say, without too much rumor mongering, that the new accounts of many of the folks that have been the worst “offenders” in unsubtantiated rumors who certainly seem to suggest an organized political effort to discredit forums like this one.
These operatives had best be careful. The internet has a way of dragging the truth out.
If the more ridiculous of these rumors turn out to have Obama campaign worker origins, it is quite likely that this will be exposed.
Oh he WILL be “swiftboated” and very soon
Yes. At least here everyone can see actual sources. The leftist MSM are just jealous because we have more credibility than them. LOL.
I won’t bow my head and pray to either one of them so the question holds absolutely no significance with me.
A legislator explained to me last week why Obama would win the upcoming election, because he is the better looking one of the two. He went back through all the elections and explained that this has held true since Ike was selected for the White House.
One would think they would have waited to get into the White House, before trying to revoke the First Amendment right to free speech.
Before or after the convention, how soon is soon? This guy really scares me.
1. His birth father was Muslim. In Islam, all children of Muslim fathers are Muslim.
2. His stepfather was a Muslim and he attended a Muslim school for four years.
3. The racist statements of his so called Christian Church pastor and wife do not follow the major tenents of the Bible. He admitted he became a Christian for political purposes in one of his debates with Hillary Clinton. Mrs. Obamas thesis at Princeton was anti-white.
4. He campaigned in Kenya for Raila Odinga (google: Raila Obama) and they claim to be cousins (google: Raila Obama cousins)
5. Raila had an agreement with Muslims, The MOU agreement, that if he was elected, Islam would become the only recognized religion in Kenya.
6. From 2003-2005 the Muslims tried to change Kenya's Constitution to install 'sharia law'
7. Within a few minutes after the elections closed, cries of rigged came from Odingas camp and the burning and killing began against those who did not support him. Railia supporters had stated repeatedly that if he was not elected, No Railia, No Kenya. So many Christian churches were burned down. Not one mosque was touched. The full death count has not been released and at least 350,000 people were run off their land and their homes and properties stolen.
8. American Democrat Dick Morris volunteered to be the chief stradegist for Raila Odinga (google: Raila Dick Morris) Why?
9. Islamic backers of Obama include Farakan, Hamas, the Palestinians, (google: backers of Obama). Why?
10. Interview of Raila on BBC saying he and Obama talk regularly and are cousins.
Connect the dots if you can...........Obama may have been in a Muslim family early on, whether he practiced that religion before he found Jeremiah Wrights church is unclear - what is clear is the Barack Hussein Obama is pure Socialist with heavy Marxist leanings. He is not an American by thought or culture. He is also, one slick politician - they are all alike regardless of country or type of government. He does not love this country; he doesn't even know how many states it has; he does not begin to understand the free market/capitalist economy nor the desire to see America remain strong in all aspects. Obama is as much a figment of the MSM/pundits imagination as are/was Ms. Clinton and her trashy spouse.
It will be soon. Hang on
Oh darn! I’m probably guilty of that! Hey, do you think they can find me here in Columbia South America? LOL!
With an attitude like that, Robert Gibbs will definitely bankrupt the people who are funding the socialist Obama's run for the White House.
I just made a note on my calendar to buy new rounds for my rifles, pistols and shotguns on Monday. I did that in 2004, when it got nasty during the Kerry bs.
After I buy new ammo, I will go fire the old ammo to make sure my skills come back with my guns.
I’ve said that it is easier to discredit a large number of lingering questions about Obama by sprinking in a few obvious misattributed quotes and details.
The media doesn’t offer a point by point rebuttal, just pick out the strawmen arguments to disavow the emails in total.
Funny how that works. Almost as if it is by design.
You can see the same thing in some of the “rumors” about corporate support of liberalism or some scandal involving the Clintons that is “debunked” on Snopes by the libs who run that site.
Someone somewhere along the line takes several details and “enhances” them when the basic facts in some of these emails that are forwarded around have verifiable truth.
Is it a game of “telephone” where someone tells someone something and accidently miscommunicates part of it? Or is there an underlying reason for the alterations?
It seems odd for the media to focus on this candidate alone. Who started the rumors that McCain was inelligible for the Presidency? Who started the rumor about Bush’s cocaine use? Why isn’t the rumor of Obama’s cocaine use fair game this election?
Jan Brunvand has studied urban rumors (typically friend-of-a-friend tales) for something on the order of 40 years. It is his research (and books) that provide the basis for a number of Snopes’ apolitical rumors. And it is clear that some editors repeatedly would publish urban legends as news items long after they’d been debunked. It almost seems as if some editors would slip one in now and then because they were often funny or at least ironic and generally a bit of “harmless” filler.
Some tonight show guests have also been fed such stories to tell on the air as though they personally happened to them (long after the stories had circulated for decades as happening to “ordinary” people).
So to wrap this up Brunvand and other researchers generally tried to follow the variations and mutations of urban lore but seldom ever actually uncovered who generated the myth and who made alterations.
I guess in the age of the internet with time stamps and URL information it could be deduced given enough monkeys with keyboards banging away.
“Many dont seem to understand the jeopardy to freedom and liberty that is posed by nObama.”
Amen Brother. I want to B$tch slap every insane poster who wants us to lose this election to punish the Republican Party.
We still haven’t recovered from the 8 years of Clintoons because of the same insanity.
Washington Compost reporter Matthew Mosk is the grandson of Stanley Mosk, a Democrat who was elected Attorney General of California, and who then was appointed by Dem Pat Brown to the California Supreme Court. On the court Mosk led the way in pioneering “progressive” court decisions that ignored both existing law and the will of the people.
The acorn doesn’t fall far from the oak....
Rumor mongering is the charge that the MSM uses when the internet has to flesh out stories that they do not have the journalistic skill or moral will to flesh out on their own. If anyone cares to put some flesh and blood and a story to names like Eileen Wellstone and Mary Mahoney, I am proud to say that Free Republic has done that with distinction. The internet simply practicing the journalism MSM hacks refuse to do.
These are two different things:
2. His stepfather was a Muslim
2b. he attended a Muslim school for four years.
Obama's staff has said that 2b. is false. That he went to a Catholic school.
The paperwork for his school showed him enrolled as a muslim.
His staff had no credible excuse for this except to claim it as some kind of error.
Search for the January statements from 2008 by Obama's staff.
Boy..that's a TOUGH call.....
"This kind of misinformation campaign short-circuits judgment. It also aggressively disregards the fundamental principle of free societies that one be able to debate one's accusers."
The way the Left "debates" its accusers is the way the Clinton White House took in the action against Free Republic back during the impeachment wars.
Call up a couple of your friendly in-house media organs, have them file a SLAPP suit, then line up a friendly federal judge to "hear" the case. Make sure the "judge" was appointed by you or your friends in government.
Then, let the show trial begin...
In the past month or so, with all the bad realities/garbage we have on Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas is being spiked, hidden, ignored or laughed at by most of the MSM.
The latest is this attack of the Compost by one of Obamas elitist left wing politically correct Black Racist Professor on Free Republic, Beckwith and other Freepers.
The mediots and their elite left wing owners put $inator Hill out of the race, and now they are doing anything to defend Obama to put McCain out of the race to make Obama appear to be the great Messiah, who will save America.
What deals has Obama made with the elite MSM owners behind closed elite doors?
We know the shaky financial realities most of the owners of the MSM outlets face. If the trends continue against them, few if any will be around by the next big election in 2012
Did Obama promise federal funding if he is elected or bailouts like the one Chrysler got decades ago if the MSM elites and their mediots protect and shield Obama to get him elected?
They are counting on something to save them, and it appears to be electing Obama as POTUS.