Posted on 11/03/2008 2:15:05 PM PST by COUNTrecount
WASHINGTON – It's a nightmare scenario for Democrats — their nominee Barack Obama winning the popular vote while Republican John McCain ekes out an Electoral College victory. Sure, McCain trails in every recent national poll. Sure, surveys show that Obama leads in the race to reach the requisite 270 electoral votes to win the presidency.
Sure, chances of Republicans retaining the White House are remote.
But some last-minute state polls show the GOP nominee closing the gap in key states — Republican turf of Virginia, Florida and Ohio among them, and Democratic-leaning Pennsylvania, too.
If the tightening polls are correct and undecided voters in those states break McCain's way — both big ifs — that could make for a repeat of the 2000 heartbreaker for Democrats that gave Republicans the White House.
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Or it could come down to one electoral vote in Northeastern Maine.
You'll have a better idea when results come in from Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Florida, and New Hampshire.
But really, wouldn't Nevada been more likely to go for Obama than Colorado?
I wouldn’t put it past the Democrat Congress, if that scenerio occured, to try and overturn the electoral vote by refusing to certify the electoral vote or a particular state’s electoral vote “in the interest of democracy” or something like that.
What happened is that the Democrats started killing off their babies nearly 4 decades ago. The voters who would have put them over the top are so much rotted garbage in the local landfill now.
Biological death can and does lead to failure at the ballot box as well.
If it’s a tie, what happens?
Hopefully he will lose everything and be the subject of MANY investigations-especially the sealed birth certificate.
Obama will lose the popular vote and the electoral college, and there will be riots in LA, Chicago, Harlem, Detroit, etc...
Good , They would be eating their own 1
Yes, and if McCain pulls out the inside straight that is probably what will happen.
Yep...they are all on call and ready for anything....as is our family and friends.
Ref. Post #21: Turn PA Red on the map and Mac wins 290 to 248.
Sometimes you see a Democrat doing that ~ maybe a baby in a buggy. But it's rare to see children at Obama events.
Could it be a difference in the perception of relative safety?
Do Republicans confidently take their kids with them because they know nobody will get a purse stolen at the event? Could Democrats be pulling a Jesse Jackson "if you see young men down the sidewalk" deal and keeping the kids at home because they feel unsafe?
The difference is so obvious you just gotta' ask who the heck is attending these Obama events that has all the Democrats frightened?
Ref. your Post #15. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!!!
Now, THAT would be one for the record books.
Doesn’t the election get kicked to the House if such a scenario comes up?
Democrats put way too much faith in polls especailly sicne they are weighted in their favor and who knows how many are purposely lying to pollsters. Our elections ahve always been based on electoral votes and no one even heard ofthe “popular vote” until Gore’s campaign came up with it and it is meaningless without a constitutional amendment to change it.
Oh great!
If it’s a tie, the current House of Representatives elects the Prez. We don’t want that.
How are they going to react when McCain wins? How are they going to react when in 2010 the census gives more weight to red states and less to more blue states?
The dems in congress are going to try and do away with the electoral college. I truly believe they will not let another popular vote win and a electoral college loss go. Not saying McCain will lose the popular vote, but either way, they are going to try and take up this issue along with some others.
I also think they are going to try and seat representatives from D.C. But that is for another time/thread.
Amendment XII
The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate [Vice President Cheney] shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
annotation:
"This Amendment,1 which supersedes clause 3 of Sec. 1 of Article II, was adopted so as to make impossible the situation occurring after the election of 1800 in which Jefferson and Burr received tie votes in the electoral college, thus throwing the selection of a President into the House of Representatives, despite the fact that the electors had intended Jefferson to be President and Burr to be Vice– President.2 The difference between the procedure which it defines and that which was laid down originally is in the provision it makes for a separate designation by the electors of their choices for President and Vice–President, respectively. As a consequence of the disputed election of 1870, Congress has enacted a statute providing that if the vote of a State is not certified by the governor under seal, it shall not be counted unless both Houses of Congress concur.3"
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