Posted on 11/13/2008 4:02:22 AM PST by LS
If I see one more "we are doomed" or "we'll never again win an election" thread I'm gonna puke!
ANY reader of American history knows that going back to the 1600s, EVERY generation has faced (yes) a similar challenge, every generation has thought it faced the "end of the colony/state/country.
*John Adams and the Federalists were certain that Thomas Jefferson would destroy the country he helped build, and forge an alliance with that "terrorist" country France.
*Both Thomas Jefferson and Martin Van Buren said that the Missouri Compromise (that would be 1820, for those of you from Rio Linda) was "the death knell of the Union."
*All "men of standing" were certain that Andrew Jackson would destroy the nation---and thought he proved it when he allowed mobs into the White House to guzzle the wine stock while he high-tailed it out back to a nearby bar. Even Davy Crockett---hardly an effete snob---thought Jackson was going to destroy the country.
*EVERY major Republican except Lincoln thought they had permanently destroyed the Democrat Party by 1864. In fact, they had put into place such astonishing obstacles to the Dems EVER getting power that they were stunned when the Dems not only won congressional seats, but had to be swindled out of an election in 1876!
*The only way a Democrat even won the White House for 100 years was to either a) pretend to be a Republican (Cleveland---DINO); or to get the Republicans to fracture into two parties (Wilson in 1912).
*FDR put every obstacle to Republican elections in place from 1932-1944, and STILL couldn't prevent a Republican from being elected president in 1952, and it took a terrible TV debate and some fraud to keep Nixon out in 1960. It wouldn't have taken much, with a President Nixon in 1960, for Republicans to have held power throughout the 1970s.
Lenin took power in Russia with a mere 20,000 committed communists---smaller than my little Ohio township---in a nation of 160 MILLION. Commitment, determination, and above all, having an idea to fight for is the key to victory.
I'm going to end with a Bible story: Gideon was leading the Israelites against an enemy. He had an army of 30,000 and God said, "Too many! Your soldiers aren't all committed. Some are faint hearted, some are grumblers." God gave Gideon a test to eliminate 27,000 men from the ranks. With just 3,000, Gideon got ready to fight and God said, "Too many. There are still too many complainers, nay-sayers, men weak of faith." He gave Gideon another test, leaving Gideon with only 300. Then God said, "You are ready now to go and WIN." And he did.
If you are all through with your little hissy fits and "poor me/we'll never win another election" pity parties, I'm ready to join 299 of you to GO WIN.
we’re not doomed but a lot of babies will be as a result of Obama’s unlimited abortion policy.
DOOMED, I tell ya. We’re Doomed!
Somewhere around here I’ve got a “I survived Jimmy Carter” vintage t-shirt.
You forgot money. Foreign money. Just as Germany paid Lenin, Obama is being paid by (insert foreign power here).
I’m bookmarking this for future reference. :)
We need a demon. Don’t take that away from us.
Yeah! And enough with the vanity threads too!!!
Oops.
I’m glad we finally put all the other news outlets out of business. All news reports and commentary will henceforth originate from FReerers.
Demons are good. I’m not saying don’t use bare-knuckle politics. I don’t like ANY of the current suggestions for RNC chairman. Vic Mackey or Jack Bauer, yes. Newt, no.
Nobody paid Gideon.
DOMED! HUGH! and SERIES!
So puke. It won't bother me.
You and the other gloomsters can go hang out with Glen Beck. You’re part of the problem, not part of the solution. Ronald Reagan would have nothing to do with such people.
Says you. I voted and I donated since 1972. What did I miss?
Good story, but thinning the ranks appears to represent an antithesis to what a political party needs to do in order to prevail. Those 300 determined warriors of Gideon would need to infect 29,700 of their compatriots with a measure of conviction, if the group was to outnumber its opposition.
OTOH, if you are referring to violent revolution with use of force, then the conviction, cunning, knowledge and ability qualities do have great advantage over raw numbers.
Actually, the last thing I worry about is another election.
It appears what ails the US extends across party lines.
The US is diseased, and it appears the sheeple think the only cure is free stuff.
Whoo hoo!
But I was having so much fun watching Titanic, Deep Impact, and reading Lucifer’s Hammer and No Blade of Grass and On the Beach and especially enjoying watching Red Dawn a couple times.
Spoil sport.
Grumble, grumble.
I'm kind of getting tired of hearing this. Unless you are a fortune teller you can't know this. I'm not trying to pick on you or your opinion, I'm just getting tired of people saying things with no proof.
Just because he changes the policy/law does not mean that women are going to flock to abortion clinics! I'm not defending OB or his Administration, I'm saying that you have to trust the woman not to take advantage of the policy/law. And, let's not forget that no matter what policy/law they pass, if we educate (whomever) the policy/law can't control or hurt us.
And, let's not forget one historical fact - Babies don't die from a policy/law, they die by a choice. They've been dying regardless of the policy/law.
All the vanities are dooming FR
Sophistry. I noticed you've already been born.
Here is MY take on the situation: http://jacifus.wordpress.com/
Excellent. Thank you. I’m just as concerned as anyone else, but some of the hand-wringing on this site is embarrassing. If it’s just policy differences, we can easily weather that—we did with Clinton for 8 years. If it comes to a shooting war, make sure you’re armed. Constantly ranting “Woe is us!” ain’t gonna solve a damned thing.
So have you. What’s your point?
Thanks, Larry.
I fell asleep last night thinking that we need someone to TALK SUCCESS for the Pubbies, and here you are. What the democrats haven’t yet done to hurt this country, the DU invaders on this site are busy trying to demoralize us. Your thought is well taken—we’re our own worst enemies if we don’t believe we CAN FIGHT!
Many are in total denial even here. The country did not end under Jimmy Carter, or Clinton and there will be a United States even under hussein.
But, the thing that few acknowledge, is that even under Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Bush - even when we had control of Congress - the United States has never rolled back liberalism/socialism. The best we have ever done is slow the amount of change to socialism away from Liberty ad capitalism.
My point is not that the country will end in four years. My point is that even with a Palin win in 2012 and even if we take back control of Congress in 2010 or 2012, the best we can hope for, based on history and human nature, is to slow the move to full blown socialism. We have no evidence of ever repealing large portions of socialist law, and getting the judiciary to honor the constitution.
To me, the only way we can get our Liberty back is to start over. We can never get 100% of the US to do this, I wish we could get about half of the US to secede and start over, to return to the constitution, Liberty and capitalism. Staying in the US will never produce a move back to Liberty - it has never been done before and I cannot see a way for it to happen in the future. Half or more of the country will not allow it, and all of the media will not allow it. Therefore, people who love Liberty need to face reality - we need to leave, or, we need to quite complaining and talking about freedom, because slowing the move to socialism does not get the job done and that is all we have ever done in the last 100 years and all we will ever be able to do going forward.
I’m not making light of loosening abortion laws.
Ok, I’m not either. All I’m saying is that even with all the laws on the books to-date, women still have abortions. Women need to be educated about alternatives to abortion so that they no longer choose abortion.
hmmmmm..interesting that over half of your citations also screamed ‘We are doomed’...so maybe the clarion call of doom really does work. LOL
We are doomed if we do not contain the democrat socialist machine. Most of us are ready and willing to stand up and fight but nobody wants to fight for republicans that refuse to fight for us.
Hey, the Great Depression is coming and will take hold *big time* in 2009. But, that’s not bad news, because we made it through the last Great Depression, so we’ll make it through this one... LOL..
***The only way a Democrat even won the White House for 100 years was to either a) pretend to be a Republican (Cleveland-—DINO); or to get the Republicans to fracture into two parties (Wilson in 1912).***
Another excellent point. The trolls from DU are working hard right now to toss out the Republican party and split it in two.
Lenin got money from Germany for less than a year. After that, he was on his own.
There was just no cohesive force to oppose the Bolshies. They also demonstrated amazing spirit and dedication.
This is no cause to be blase about relaxation of the laws, so that more women have more abortions.
Hey, this is a vanity!
(In before “already posted”)
I'm feeling better already.
“Fight on, my men . . .
I am hurt, but I am not slain;
I’ll lay me down and bleed a while,
And then I’ll rise and fight again.”
“The anticipation is alway more painful than the actual prick of the needle.”
Absolutely spot-on. We will recover from this. It was a meteoric rise for Obama, so it will be a calamitous fall for him, because he and the dem Congress will over-reach.
I saw the exact scenario in my backyard when my cat was about to reach for a tiny mouse who was up on his back legs facing an enemy many, many times his size. I grabbed the cat and rushed her into the house. When I went back outside the mouse was dead, WITHOUT EVEN A MARK ON IT. Shows you what fear can do. Our enemy is not beyond defeating. Read my tagline.
I'm not being blase about it. My point is - what does the law have to do with whether a woman chooses to have an abortion? If the woman chooses to have one she is going to regardless of the law. If she doesn't believe in abortion then she won't have on regardless of the law. I don't see how that is being blase.
We’re Doomed to see too many vanities and not enough Opuses, Opi, Opera. Hint, Hint.
The difficulty in obtaining one is a deterrent. Some women won't break the law. Some will want to know why the law prohibits abortion and will learn more. Maybe it's simple enough to say that a law protecting the human rights of the unborn can only serve to elevate us all.
If the woman chooses to have one she is going to regardless of the law.
So we've been told by the abortion industry. How does that law apply to other forms of murder? If a person chooses to kill their neighbor, they are going to do it regardless of the law, so why have laws against murder?
Ridiculous.
Plus, as I've said, the instructive nature of laws protecting the unborn: the point of the law is to deter the choice of murder.
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