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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

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To: April Lexington

Whoever called Obama Bozo is being really unfair. TO BOZO!


341 posted on 11/14/2008 10:47:27 PM PST by mccainvoterinobamaville (Bobby Jindal in 2012)
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To: Safrguns
Which begs the question as to the source of $200+ mil foreign campaign contributions.

me thinks Bush is being suspiciously quiet about all of this.


President Bush is doing exactly what he needs to do. Look presidential and stable. I wish the DEMOCRAT Harry Paulson had a better grasp of the economy (actually, that is Bernanke’s job but he's a frightened kitten these days). Anyway... when the Obama not qualified story hits the press Bush needs to be a strong and stable leader or the civil unrest could get out of hand.

Remember, Bush's IQ is higher than Kerry and Gore's; Bush is an American Patriot; Bush has served in the military and Bush is a TEXAN!!! We'll be ok.

342 posted on 11/14/2008 10:48:19 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: solfour

I dont think it would matter. The constitution does not specify one must be born in the US. It only states you must be a ‘natural born’ citizen and there is a lot of debate about what this means exactly. Some have gone as far as to say being born on an American military installation overseas is not good enough. Others say all one needs is to meet the requirements of being a citizen at birth. Obama would hold citizenship no matter where he was born because his mom was a citizen. The case of McCain is in the middle of the two because he was born outside of the Panama Canal zone it would make his eligibility questionable if using the tighter standard. I think that no matter what is decided the issue needs to be made crystal clear because modern travel will make this issue likely to come up in the future.


343 posted on 11/14/2008 10:49:53 PM PST by GrumpyDAV
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To: mccainvoterinobamaville

I guess it’s all we taxpayers deserve. We don’t deserve to have someone with a decent resume and no skeletons in the closet. We are just the cash cows of the Washington elite. Moo.


344 posted on 11/14/2008 10:50:05 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You are very wise. The civil service MUST be dismantled because, as Senator Joe McCarthy pointed out... our government has been infiltrated by communists and enemies of the United States of America. Both parties would appreciate having the ability to fire them all and start over. Boston can do this. Why not Washington DC?
345 posted on 11/14/2008 10:50:57 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: yadent

Hamilton’s genius and concern had been thwarted by the creation of the forerunner of the Democrat party in the early 1790s by Jefferson and Madison. A party created explicitly to stop him and his ideas. Slowly democratic influence has been expanded and the federal structure weakened as the electorate has expanded to include 35% who pay no income taxes. Federalism was also critically injured by the direct election of Senators.

Our Founders despised parties, factions they called them, and would have never believed that one so large and opposed to critical national interests as the Democrat would obtain power.


346 posted on 11/14/2008 10:52:54 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Blogger
I thought it goes to the House and Senate at this point, with the House choosing the Pres and the Senate the VP

The electors have to cast their ballots first. If they find out that O is not eligible, most will cast their ballots fro some other Dim, for President. That could be Biden, but it could be someone else just as well.

After they cast their votes, and the tally sheets are sent to the President of the Senate (the current VP, the eviil Dick Cheney) is as early as the House and Senate could get involved. But they must pick from the top 3 electoral vote getters, who can qualify, which leaves McCain for President.

347 posted on 11/14/2008 10:53:16 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: April Lexington
Sorry, but Biden wouldn't be VP. He was appointed to his spot by Bozo.

No, he was elected by the Electoral College (or he will be, after December 15), and has every right to his office.

348 posted on 11/14/2008 10:54:08 PM PST by Jim Noble (I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel)
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To: GrumpyDAV

You mean we had this thread for nothing? Where have you been all this time! LOL


349 posted on 11/14/2008 10:54:17 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: MWestMom
Strategically, the Clintoons would not want to be anywhere near this. If does come to the forefront and becomes an issue, those who drive it will come under intense fire. Even if the Clintoons have information of this sort and have been working behind the scenes to disseminate it, they will stand back and let others take the heat as they shake their heads, wring their hands, at the same time positioning themselves to take whatever power that they can from the situation. Interesting that we are hearing now that Hillary may be in the running for Secretary of State. Do not underestimate the Clintoons when it comes to power-brokering.

The Secretary of State is in the line of succession. If Obama is sworn in and then removed by SCOTUS or if he resigns under huge public protest, she can broker a VP assignment. Biden serves one term and she is the front runner in 2012. This ain't over, folks. I suspect that the super scared look in Barry's eyes and the constant absence of his family from media attention suggests he knows the jig is up!

350 posted on 11/14/2008 10:56:01 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: April Lexington
Look, its not unconstitutional for the President to get, um, serviced, in the Oval Office. No violation of the Constitution.

It wasn't the service, it was the perjury under oath. That is a high crime and an impeachable offense, regardless of what Arlen Spectacles might say about it.

351 posted on 11/14/2008 10:56:29 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: concerned about politics

When Obama is proven a fraud, I want to see a chain gang being marched to prison that leads with Hussein and Michelle Obama and includes Dean, Brazille, Emmanuel, Pelosi, Reid, Axelrod, Plouffe, Feinstein, Kennedy, Richardson, McCaskill, Frank, Dodd, Durbin, and many more traitorous bastards of the DNC.

And I want to see a complete collapse of the MSM.


352 posted on 11/14/2008 10:58:03 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: cookcounty
Governor Lingle (R) has denied she “sealed” the file. However, the law states that only the selfsame person (Obama) can ask to have it released.

Well, then that selfsame person had better fly his butt back to Hawaii and produce a copy of the certificate before all hell breaks loose.

Either he's constitutionally ineligible or he's not African. Come clean Barry! This issue isn't going away.

353 posted on 11/14/2008 10:59:35 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Baloney. This is one case where I wouldn’t mind being “discredited”. He should prove he is eligible to be our president. How can he swear to protect the constitution and trample on it at the same time?????


YES! Please, Barry, make us all look like tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist fools! Just show us the real birth certificate.

354 posted on 11/14/2008 11:01:22 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: Buffalo Head

If Zero is found to unqualified then Biden is acting president until a person is qualified as President. Since the choice is made between those already receiving electoral votes McCain would be president. No one other than he and Zero received any electoral votes.

Biden would then be VP as elected since he is qualified and the EV for him are legitimate.

Thus, we would have a nightmare administration though much better than Zero as CinC.


355 posted on 11/14/2008 11:02:19 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: MWestMom

Check the Hawaii Dept. of Health website. There are a select few who can request someone’s birth certificate. A very narrow list.


Barry can request the certificate. Please show us... We trusted you, so you should trust us!


356 posted on 11/14/2008 11:02:49 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: LucyT

Missed that,,,

Sure seems High!...:0/


357 posted on 11/14/2008 11:03:05 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: El Gato

Cool. Thx for the clarification.


358 posted on 11/14/2008 11:04:05 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Ptarmigan

“Birth certificates if I recall can be requested if pay some fee. They are not sealed.”

BCs in Hawaii ARE private (probably to prevent identity theft) - certain other documents such as marriage certificates are not.

The ONLY way to receive a copy of a BC in Hawaii is to be the person in question, or to be a relative of the person in question (after that person has died).

A relative has to produce documentation that he is related and ALSO a certified Death Certificate of the person in question.

The State of Hawaii then verifies the information.

The “sealing” of Obama’s BC is probably a ruse - no need to seal something others can’t get ... but they probably mean that they locked it in a safe.


359 posted on 11/14/2008 11:05:57 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Here it is; #115.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2131852/posts?page=115#115


360 posted on 11/14/2008 11:05:57 PM PST by LucyT (..................Don't go wobbly now.................)
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