Posted on 12/15/2008 10:35:51 AM PST by joesbucks
The U.S. Supreme Court has rejected a second challenge to the presidency of Barack Obama, announcing today it denied an application for a stay or an injunction in a case from Connecticut.
The case brought by Cort Wrotnowski had been distributed for review by the court and apparently was considered during a conference of the justices Friday.
It met the same fate as an earlier case brought by Leo Donofrio and essentially challenged Obama on the same issue: allegations that dual citizenship based on a father who was a British subject and a mother who was an American minor disqualified him for office under the U.S. Constitution's requirement that presidents be "natural born" citizens.
As is its custom, the Supreme Court made no comment other than to post its decision:
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If it was a Republican and I had any doubt I would want him to prove who he is.
“Shall the man who has practised corruption & by that means procured his appointment in the first instance, be suffered to escape punishment, by repeating his guilt?”
Like Obama, I too was adopted at the age of 7 along with my brother and sister, when I was seven. My background is nearly identical to Obama’s except that my adoption took place in two states and I have known my real father and all my relatives all my life.
I too looked into changing my last name back to my original and I am very familiar with the process of adoption, records and the amount work and paper work that would go into something like this.
I don’t understand why there is no microfiche evidence of this guy anywhere. He did, after all, go to college in two states and has lived in at 4 of the 57 states.
If Obama changed his name to suit the identity he wanted then there should be plenty of records to indicate that.
Obama has access to the actual BC when he was born under whatever name that was.
Upon his adoption by his mother’s second husband Obama’s original BC was sealed as his old identity no longer existed in the eyes of the law.
His adoption in Indonesia created a huge paper trail between two countries, the State of Hawaii and local government where is stepfather lived. He was issued a new BC and both governments created records of equal value and weight in term of his new identity under the law.
His mother would have to present his original BC for the adoption to take place. Where are those copies?
Was the BC with is new identity Barry Sotero issued by Indonesia? Where is that new BC with Lolo listed as his father?
Upon Barry Sotero’s return to the US he reached the age of emancipation and change his name to Barack Obama.
When did he do that? What was the legal process? He would have to notify multiple government agencies and this would have cost a tidy sum.
This process does not change your BC of adoption. In this case Barry Sotero. It only changes your name as you are not being adopted by anyone and the government is not developing a legal document of lawful parentage.
You are changing your name only.
Here is the rub, the copy of the BC you are seeing online is or could be issued to valid BC holders and might be the short form in lieu of a deep record search.
In other words the BC is a fraud. In order for Barack Obama to show a BC that contains his name of Barack Obama and his father and mother as we know it, the state of Hawaii would only have a long form document.
Barack Obama has access to his original BC before he was born but it is no longer valid. He can present either the short form, which many of us have seen or present the long form but they are not valid.
You... cannot change your adoption records or the alteration of those records for the purpose of adoption.
You can call yourself John Wayne and even legally change your name. But, your birth certificate will still say you are Marion Robert Morrison, born in Iowa, blah, blah, blah.
If it was a Republican and I had any doubt I would want him to prove who he is.
“Shall the man who has practised corruption & by that means procured his appointment in the first instance, be suffered to escape punishment, by repeating his guilt?”
Like Obama, I too was adopted at the age of 7 along with my brother and sister, when I was seven. My background is nearly identical to Obama’s except that my adoption took place in two states and I have known my real father and all my relatives all my life.
I too looked into changing my last name back to my original and I am very familiar with the process of adoption, records and the amount work and paper work that would go into something like this.
I don’t understand why there is no microfiche evidence of this guy anywhere. He did, after all, go to college in two states and has lived in 4 of the 57 states.
If Obama changed his name to suit the identity he wanted then there should be plenty of records to indicate that.
Obama has access to the actual BC when he was born under whatever name that was.
Upon his adoption by his mother’s second husband Obama’s original BC was sealed as his old identity no longer existed in the eyes of the law.
His adoption in Indonesia created a huge paper trail between two countries, the State of Hawaii and local government where is stepfather lived. He was issued a new BC and both governments created records of equal value and weight in term of his new identity under the law.
His mother would have to present his original BC for the adoption to take place. Where are those copies?
Was the BC with is new identity Barry Sotero issued by Indonesia? Where is that new BC with Lolo listed as his father?
Upon Barry Sotero’s return to the US he reached the age of emancipation and change his name to Barack Obama.
When did he do that? What was the legal process? He would have to notify multiple government agencies and this would have cost a tidy sum.
This process does not change your BC of adoption. In this case Barry Sotero. It only changes your name as you are not being adopted by anyone and the government is not developing a legal document of lawful parentage.
You are changing your name only.
Here is the rub, the copy of the BC you are seeing online is or could be issued to valid BC holders and might be the short form in lieu of a deep record search.
In other words the BC is a fraud. In order for Barack Obama to show a BC that contains his name of Barack Obama and his father and mother as we know it, the state of Hawaii would only have a long form document.
Barack Obama has access to his original BC before he was born but it is no longer valid. He can present either the short form, which many of us have seen or present the long form but they are not valid.
You... cannot change your adoption records or the alteration of those records for the purpose of adoption.
You can call yourself John Wayne and even legally change your name. But, your birth certificate will still say you are Marion Robert Morrison, born in Iowa, blah, blah, blah.
the US Constitution has only 3 requirements for anyone that wishes to assume the office of the President.
1. get more votes then anyone in the general election
2. be 35 years old
3. be a NATURAL BORN US citizen
asking for proof of eligibility is more then reasonable and the RIGHT of EVERY American.
the fact that there has been a concerted effort to avoid providing such proof is becoming more of the issue.
All good points. Come to think of it, have we ever seen any paperwork regarding his adoption by his mother’s husband? Seems like those documents would have something pertinent to the controversy.
The biggest gotcha in the whole thing to me remains he refusal to simply document that he is indeed eligible for the office. If it’s a clear as he and his supporters claim then it should a very simple matter to prove it. Failing in that I am just skeptic enough to wonder what’s going on!
I find the absolute lack of any information about this man’s earlier life to be quite perplexing. I am not a conspiratorial nut, but my common sense sure does make me wonder what’s going on. As a rule I wouldn’t care a whole lot, but since he’s taking on the most powerful position in the free world I think we are entitled to some answers.
The court is so busy with important items like this:
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 2:01:49 PM by Zakeet
,,,,Monday when the justices ruled that the companies can be sued by smokers who contend they were deceived by advertisements promoting “light” cigarettes. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2149172/posts
Sad to say they are too busy to rule if a candidate for POTUS is constitutionally viable.
What is 0bama hiding?
I’m not giving up and am spreading the word where I can.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
There is nothing in the constitution that prevents someone from running for office if they aren’t qualified to serve.
The constitution says the you must be natural born to serve as President. He has only served in the office of President-elect(sarcasm/)
Once he takes the oath of office he has officially committed fraud and violated the constitution. He will have knowingly violated it. I think that the first Executive order he signs, or the first bill he signs, there will be plenty of people that can say they have standing because it will directly affect them.
I remember during the campaign finance fiasco they wouldn’t hear the case because no one had been hurt by it yet.
Yea the reason he has successfully avoided it is he started years ago erasing his identity. Funny, most people go about creating one, he erases his. I think that the reason he will not allow any of his school records to be released is because he went to college on a scholarship as a foreigner. They were giving out scholarships to Africans to help the countries fight poverty. He took advantage of it and doesn’t want anyone to know.
He either fraudulantly went to school or fraudulantly ran for President.
I’m with you. If Obama takes the oath knowing that he is not eligible to serve as President, it would be considered a perjured oath.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
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