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Suspect shot, killed during store robbery attempt
WHTR ^ | Dec 22, 2008 | WTHR

Posted on 12/22/2008 6:28:09 AM PST by Azeem

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To: InABunkerUnderSF

You cannot use one part of the constitution to diminish another. You either have the right to bear arms or you do not.......If you can, then there are no rights at all.........


21 posted on 12/22/2008 8:02:13 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: gracesdad

If he saved my wife and child from being murdered I would be indebted to him forever, even if he was a mass murderer.

I know that it is standard procedure to investigate him, but the way it was worded sounded as if he were the criminal. No mention of the perp’s weapon being investigated.


22 posted on 12/22/2008 8:02:32 AM PST by panaxanax ("Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't." T.Jefferson)
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To: Azeem

‘Citizen Saves State Millions in Court and Prison Costs’

..Gets medal for putting down vicious DemoCriminal animal.


23 posted on 12/22/2008 8:08:10 AM PST by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: Evil Slayer

The dead punk’s relatives could sue the shooter for wrongful death, but I do not see any opportunity to sue an editor/paper that might call the punk a CRIMINAL who died IN THE ACT.


24 posted on 12/22/2008 8:25:34 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: panaxanax

Agree. Bizarre that they would investigate him.

He is a hero.


25 posted on 12/22/2008 8:25:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: Red Badger
You cannot use one part of the constitution to diminish another.

Interesting legal philosophy.

By your reasoning then the 21st amendment cannot diminish the 18th amendment. I know it's early but I need a drink. But then according to your legal philosophy I can't have one....

You have rights but you can be deprived of them by due process of the law. Furthermore, no right is absolute. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater and call it free speech. Human sacrifice and "honor killings" are not tolerated as religious practices.

26 posted on 12/22/2008 8:31:29 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

By “use” I meant “interpret”, not the process of amending the constitution.

If you use the “To regulate commerce” clause of the constitution to ban the ownership of guns because guns are produced commercially and are shipped across state lines, then the 2nd amendment is useless............


27 posted on 12/22/2008 8:39:12 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Azeem
Police say the suspect then pointed his gun at a woman and baby

That's what ended the idiot's life. There's certain stuff you just DON'T do.

28 posted on 12/22/2008 9:07:08 AM PST by wastedyears ("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

There you go bringing up inconvenient facts, with actual references to back them up.

A lot of people on FR hate that nowadays.


29 posted on 12/22/2008 9:15:35 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Red Badger

The second amendment comes after the commerce clause and the fifth amendment comes after the second.

The due process clause has been used for two centuries and without it a lot of things, from the death penalty to keeping ACORN from registering convicted felons in prison to vote to barring convicted sex offenders from living near schools after their release, go out the window. States can and do enact laws restricting ownership of firearms by those convicted of felonies based upon the due process clause of the fifth amendment.

I agree that “regulating commerce” as a means of regulating the right to keep and bare arms is a red herring. I wonder though why the same interpretation of the commerce clause that makes a Texas drivers license valid in New York City doesn’t make a Texas concealed carry license valid in New York city.


30 posted on 12/22/2008 9:16:26 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Red Badger
Funny, I didn't see that "except for felons" clause in there..........

Because it's already taken care of by the Fifth Amendment.

31 posted on 12/22/2008 9:23:19 AM PST by wastedyears ("Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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To: Azeem; ReagansShinyHair

A pic of the room temperature perp and comments from local Hoosiers. I know a good immigration lawyer in town if the shooter needs a defense. He can get a temp visa, even if illegal, as long as he cooperates with the police investigation.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/18333430/detail.html


32 posted on 12/22/2008 10:47:00 AM PST by Azeem (The world will look up and shout "Save us!"... And I'll whisper "No.")
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To: Red Badger

Did you see where it says, “well regulated?”


33 posted on 12/22/2008 3:28:23 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: MrEdd

I’ve noticed a general decline in the last few years.


34 posted on 12/22/2008 3:30:19 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Azeem

The perp had to have a green card or be a US citizen, and the shooter would have had to be a victim. He might be considered a victim, though, in this case.


35 posted on 12/22/2008 3:32:12 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Azeem
Thanks for the link.

The perp had the usual gang tattoos on his neck.

The gun the clerk used belongs to the store owner.

36 posted on 12/22/2008 6:25:20 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: ReagansShinyHair

“well regulated” at the time of Washington and Jefferson meant “working smoothly” like a clock is “regulated”............


37 posted on 12/23/2008 5:05:43 AM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Gotta see if we can't throw him in jail for an "illegal" use or possession of a gun doncha know, feh

Might happen in Indy, but certainly not here in SW Indiana. The local boys in blue capped a murder suspect about a week ago and within 24 hours the local prosecutor was on TV saying it was a clean shoot, case closed.

A few years ago when I got my CCW, the Sheriff said, "That's exactly what we need, more armed law-abiding citizens."

38 posted on 12/23/2008 5:14:14 AM PST by CholeraJoe (It was a great party until the SWAT team tossed in the flash-bangs and tear gas.)
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To: Red Badger

How do you know that?


39 posted on 12/24/2008 5:47:50 AM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Azeem

One less name on Santa’s “naughty” list........


40 posted on 12/24/2008 5:50:59 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Today is just a little more special than yesterday.)
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