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Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts And Questions Say; 'Probably Not!'
Source? Sherlock Holmes | MB26

Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26

Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”

Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?

Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”

Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.

Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.

If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.

But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.

That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”

But there is a second, and perhaps new point!

Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?

Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?

Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?

What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!

What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!

Anybody ?!?!?!

Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!

Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?

Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.

Is this the same situation?


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To: MindBender26
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2170432/posts

Here is the thread from the former teacher "remembering" his birth.

“I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,” said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98. Here’s the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: “‘So, tell me something interesting that happened this week,’” she recalls. His response: “Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that’s something to write home about.” The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.

41 posted on 02/05/2009 8:19:07 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: editor-surveyor

You would if you were setting up an alibi for future use.


42 posted on 02/05/2009 8:19:35 PM PST by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: freekitty

Only in recent years did parents have to get a newborn a SSN. I was born in 1960 and didn’t get a SSN until I started working when I was 16. I’m sure Obama was the same. His mother may have gotten a SSN even later in life. The SSN would be from the state where it was issued, not the state where they were born.


43 posted on 02/05/2009 8:20:52 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: MindBender26

Oh, give it a rest! I lived in Hawaii in the early 60s, and mixed race children were common. In fact, a lot of mixed race couples moved there just because it was a friendly place for them (unlike most of the other states).


44 posted on 02/05/2009 8:21:00 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Canedawg
"It’s pretty damn foolish to take on the debunker role when you are not even educated about the facts."

Right on, but that crap happens here constantly. The most ignorant pound their chest the hardest.

45 posted on 02/05/2009 8:22:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

I keep waiting to wake up from this surreal bad dollar store novel. Then I realize, I’m not waking up. He is in office.


46 posted on 02/05/2009 8:22:56 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Salamander

The doctor who delivered me in 1960 is long dead.


47 posted on 02/05/2009 8:23:32 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: MindBender26

I agree with you completely. Someone somewhere must know something.


48 posted on 02/05/2009 8:24:00 PM PST by mlizzy
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To: Salamander
"You would if you were setting up an alibi for future use."

Exactly!

49 posted on 02/05/2009 8:24:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Yooper4Life

Even better, why won’t FactCheck comply with a subpoena for the photos of the COLB to ‘back up’ their website claims.


50 posted on 02/05/2009 8:24:50 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
There is a legal reason for that.

For example, what if Mom and Dad (Natural born US citizens from Rio Linda, California) are on vacation in Berlin and baby comes a month early? Eligible to be president?

What if Dad and Mom are NB citizens, Mom is in Army, in Iraq, pregnant and baby is born there? On US base? Off US base in Iraqi? In back of jeep by US military doc? Civilian US doc. Iraqi doc? Hungarian Marine Corps medic?

What about same couple are on US Delta flight from NY to LA? What if it was a Air France flight? What about on flight from PAR to ROM? What if flight is on Alitalia (Italian flagged) from Rome to Milan, over Italy? What about if on Continental over Taiwan on flight from Hong Kong to Tokyo?

(All are considered Natural Born)

51 posted on 02/05/2009 8:25:04 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

The medical people are trying to protect the fact Obama was born?


52 posted on 02/05/2009 8:25:40 PM PST by OafOfOffice
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To: MindBender26

0bama was adopted by Soetoro and his name was changed to Soetoro. He became an Indonesian citizen, thereby losing his claim as a natural born US citizen. Also, I do not blieve 0bama ever legally changed his name back to “0bama.” Technically, he is still Barry Soetoro.


53 posted on 02/05/2009 8:25:40 PM PST by Raster Man
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To: Jim Noble
I agree that a doctor might not remember. But the point that I feel gives credibility to Obama NOT being born in Hawaii is that there is NO record of HIS MOTHER being in any hospital there in or around the time that he was supposedly delivered/born. To me, that is the most convincingly detrimental element.

Then, if he or anyone would argue (lie) that "Well, actually...Obama was born at home," that would negate all the stories that have been told about him being born at a hospital there. No one could cover up a supposedly mistaken story about a hospital birth after all that has been said that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii. But where is the proof of his mother being admitted and then discharged at that time? There seems to be none. Very telling, I feel, and if that is so...then that aspect needs to be shouted from the roof of the White House! Can't someone just examine and copy the hospital admission and discharge information and bring it to the attention of the media? Or do our HEPA laws now forbid that also in order to prove if his mother was ever in a Hawaiian hospital?

54 posted on 02/05/2009 8:26:10 PM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: MindBender26

Some know where he was born.


55 posted on 02/05/2009 8:27:55 PM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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To: OrangeDaisy
The doctor who delivered me in 1960 is long dead.

gasp...you killed him?

Hee!!

56 posted on 02/05/2009 8:28:25 PM PST by OafOfOffice
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To: MindBender26
It's outrageous that the Republican Party never demanded that Hussein produce a birth certificate!!!

Therefore, the GOP 'ceded' this issue to Hussein. Period.

How pathetic is that?

57 posted on 02/05/2009 8:28:28 PM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: OafOfOffice

They are trying to protect themselves from the inevitable problems that the One’s mcahine can cause...why would they ask for that?


58 posted on 02/05/2009 8:28:42 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: MindBender26

Would Columbo go for this guys story? Barney Fife?


59 posted on 02/05/2009 8:29:04 PM PST by Waco (/)
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To: MindBender26
"All are considered Natural Born"

Definately not true.

60 posted on 02/05/2009 8:29:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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