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I remember as each of these scares was introduced. They are all based on the premise that guns are evil and must be eliminated from society. Guns are always: Too small or too big or too cheap, either too effective or not effective enough. They are all just ways to delegitimize guns in general.
1 posted on 03/05/2009 3:30:39 AM PST by marktwain
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Yea, but man have these guys convinced me to buy a lot of cool stuff over the years.


2 posted on 03/05/2009 3:37:03 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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Bookmark for discussion in my classes today.
3 posted on 03/05/2009 3:44:46 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Michael Steele, former Maryland lieutenant governor and now head of the Republican National Committee, has also fallen for the mantra of gun prohibitionists. He has also alienated millions of gun owners – an important “base” voting bloc for Republicans – by stating, “What do you need an assault weapon for, if you’re going hunting? That’s overkill.” Steele exhibited a horrid ignorance of competition shooting, along with the increasing use of AR-15 type rifles for varmint hunting and predator control, especially in the West, by a new generation of shooters brought up with such rifles.
But that's not the point, is it?

Isn't the point the Second Amendment?

How could this writer choose varmint hunting over the Second Amendment as his stated justification for the right of Americans to own "AR-15 type rifles"?

4 posted on 03/05/2009 3:52:32 AM PST by samtheman
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To paraphrase Ronald Reagan: I didn’t leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me.

Michael Steele was some good positions on some issues, but, if the intent of his becoming the national chair was to united the party and solidify its conservative base, it was a terrible choice; because Michael Steele is only a conservative on some fiscal matters. On the 2nd Amendment he is atrocious, and the 2nd Amendment is up at the top of my list of “line-in—the-sand” issues. Let’s face it: Without the 2ns Amendment we are just subjects, and it’s a very thin line between subject and slave. Me, I’d rather be a free citizen, and the 2nd Amendment guarantees that. Remember Jefferson’s words: “When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is freedom.”


5 posted on 03/05/2009 3:55:42 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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Steele is a was te of time.

GET RID OF HIM!

He’s another black RHINO.

Recall Colin Powell.

Recall J.C.Watts

It’s the same problem all over again. Will the GOP EVER LEANR?


10 posted on 03/05/2009 4:02:23 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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> “It’s the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.”
It’s the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs or Privileges.
11 posted on 03/05/2009 4:02:26 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Obama needs to Fail !)
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just before the first assault weapon ban, I went out and bought an SKS, just because clintoon said I shouldn’t...my kids were young then, and asked me about the weapons ban ( they were learning about it in school ) i took my SKS, and showed it to them, and told them it was not an assault rifle, I then took the bayonet i bought for it, put it on the rifle, and told them that now it was an assault rifle....they laughed and took that info back to school..the idiot teachers stopped talking about it after that


15 posted on 03/05/2009 4:13:01 AM PST by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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Michael Steele....head of the Republican National Committee....alienated millions of gun owners....by stating, “What do you need an assault weapon for, if you’re going hunting? That’s overkill.”

How the hell did Republicans allow themselves to be led by such an idiot - at a time when we need all the clear thinkers we can find.
Has there ever been a more clueless RNC Chair????

17 posted on 03/05/2009 4:33:10 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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“...and that “It’s the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.””

Yep, that’s correct. And, therefore, all the Anti-gunners should just shut up. I don’t NEED to justify why I own my firearms. And, I don’t have to demonstrate any sort of NEED in order to possess my firearms. Such possession is a RIGHT guaranteed to me, and such right is journalized in the Second Amendment to the Constitution. It is concise; it is succinct; it is unambiguous.


21 posted on 03/05/2009 4:47:49 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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What do you need an assault weapon for, if you’re going hunting?

North American Rinos?

22 posted on 03/05/2009 4:48:36 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama voters, your 401 K's are dead. Now what?)
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Dump Steele


24 posted on 03/05/2009 4:56:58 AM PST by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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Don’t forget “cop-killer bullets”, another fantasy term recently revived by AG Eric Holder.


25 posted on 03/05/2009 4:59:45 AM PST by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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Time for me to brouse through the Heckler & Koch brochure some more.
26 posted on 03/05/2009 5:06:50 AM PST by MountainDad
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Now, VPC’s Tom Diaz, who has made a career demonizing different firearms, is now going after a class of large-caliber handguns developed solely for big game hunting...

The other thing the VPC and Brady people are trying to demonize is the FN 5.7 mm with its "armor piercing cop killer bullets".

With a bullet weight of just 40 grains and Muzzle Energy of just 313 foot pounds, less than the 323 foot pounds of a typical 115 grain fmj 9mm round and well short of the 434 foot pounds of a 125 gran 9mm+p JHP corbon bullet, the 5.7 "Duty Round" may penetrate armor but lacks adequate stopping power for personal defense. With a very flat trajectory it would probably make a great target pistol though.

The other thing it has going for it is a 20 round magazine - and a price tag of only $1230.24!


27 posted on 03/05/2009 5:09:16 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Be There >>> http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com)
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Yes, big bore handguns can be necessary in Alaska.

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Trophy bear (killed in self defense).This man works for the US Forest Service in Alaska .

He was out deer hunting last week when a large grizzly bear charged him from about 50 yards away. The guy emptied his 7mm Magnum semi-automatic rifle into the bear and it dropped a few feet from him. The big bear was still alive so he reloaded and shot it several times in the head.

The bear was just over one thousand six hundred pounds. It stood 12' 6' high at the shoulder, 14' to the top of his head. It's the largest grizzly bear ever recorded in the world.

Of course, the Alaska Fish and Wildlife Commission did not let him keep it as a trophy, but the bear will be stuffed and mounted, and placed on display at theAnchorage airport to remind tourists of the risks involved when in the wild.

Based on the contents of the bear's stomach, the Fish and Wildlife Commission established the bear had killed at least two humans in the past 72 hours including a missing hiker.

The US Forest Service, backtracking from where the bear had originated, found the hiker's 38-caliber pistol emptied. Not far from the pistol were the remains of the hiker. The other body has not been found.

Although the hiker fired six shots and managed to hit the grizzly with four shots (the Service ultimately found four 38 caliber slugs along with twelve 7mm slugs inside the bear's dead body), it only wounded the bear and probably angered it immensely.

The bear killed the hiker an estimated two days prior to the bear's own death by the gun of the Forest Service worker.

Think about this: If you are an average size man; you would be level with the bear's navel when he stood upright. The bear would look you in the eye when it walked on all fours!
To give additional perspective, consider that this particular bear, standing on its hind legs, could walk up to an average single story house and look over the roof, or walk up to a two story house and look in the bedroom windows.

29 posted on 03/05/2009 5:11:53 AM PST by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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meh... Whatever.


37 posted on 03/05/2009 5:27:01 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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Posted: Wednesday, 04 March 2009 8:03PM

Shooting At Gun Store, Chief Baing On The Case

by Bob Roberts

Chicago WBBM Newsradio 780

A would-be thief allegedly picked the wrong store to hold up in Waukegan.

A gun shop.

Waukegan Police Cmdr. Wayne Walles said police have reviewed security video, talked with witnesses and staff at Schrank’s Smoke ‘n Guns Shop, 2010 Washington St., and can only conclude that an as-yet unidentified man was trying to rob the store.

“The subject went behind the counter and became engaged with a store clerk in a verbal altercation that turned physical,” he said. “At one point the store clerk produced a pistol and fired at the subject, striking him twice in the chest and once in the leg.”

A gun shop employee also suffered a graze wound, but when police arrived, the clerk and several others in the store still had guns trained on the alleged thief.

Waukegan Fire Department paramedics transported the man to Vista West Medical Center, but a Flight for Life helicopter transferred him almost immediately to Lutheran General Hospital, in Park Ridge, where he was undergoing surgery as of 6 p.m.

The Smoke ‘n Guns Shop’s employees carry weapons openly and police said the owner is a marksman who teaches shooting classes.

As of 6 p.m., Waukegan Police Chief William Biang (like “bang”) and other top officials were conferring with prosecutors to determine what charges, if any, to place. Police refused to identify anyone involved, pending a decision.
http://www.wbbm780.com/Shooting-At-Gun-Store—Chief-Baing-On-The-Case/3962344


39 posted on 03/05/2009 5:39:47 AM PST by KeyLargo
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Do they realize how good 20 dead in 9 years is?


43 posted on 03/05/2009 6:06:03 AM PST by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Tools:" (Thanks to whomever thought that up)

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

It's SOP for the Social-fascist Dhimicraps and specifically at places like the Disarm the law-abiding policy center.

Go after an unpopular target and demonize it as a first step in attacking a whole group.

51 posted on 03/05/2009 6:47:56 AM PST by Voice of Reason1 ("Absolute power corrupts absolutely” -Lord Acton 1887)
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“Never Forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians.”

-Alexander Hope, from the novel “Hope” by L. Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman


52 posted on 03/05/2009 6:53:19 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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