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Hoping Obama's place of birth truly was in Hawaii
The Victoria Advocate ^ | May 5, 2009 | Peter Aparicio

Posted on 05/06/2009 7:47:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I hope I am proven wrong.

I hope for the sake of our country that I and many other concerned citizens across the country are looked upon as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided individuals who chased a bad rumor based on lies and distortions.

The reason I hope to be thought wrong (although well-intentioned) is because the price of being right about the constitutional requirements to be president not being met by the current occupant of the Oval Office is too disturbing to be imagined.

If, in fact, Barack Obama does not meet the requirements set out by the U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section I, it would throw this country into a constitutional crisis. Vice President Joe Biden would, obviously, become President Biden. The harrowing part of this taking place is that every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.

Full-moon time? I know, I know; I sound like a raving lunatic. So where do I draw my conclusions that this is even a valid issue to entertain?

Let's review what's been accepted as "fact" by the mainstream press and the vast majority of Americans: Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Stanley Ann Dunham, 18, and Barack Obama Sr., 25.

Now let's look at some of the questions challenging these accepted "facts":

Concerned citizens across the United States since well before the November election have questioned Barack Obama's "natural born" qualification for the presidency. From sea to shining sea, at least 18 lawsuits with plaintiffs including a former presidential candidate, a former deputy attorney general, state legislators and retired and active duty members of the military, are attempting to compel him to verify his citizenship.

Candidate Obama's own Web site, fightthesmears.com, posted a "Certification of Live Birth," which, according to the Web site, proves that Obama is in fact a natural born U.S. citizen. What the Web site won't tell you, however, is that a "Certification of Live Birth" is not a birth certificate, and that at the time, the state of Hawaii allowed foreign-born children of U.S. citizens (Stanley Ann Dunham) to have their births registered with this document based on a statement of only one relative. The obvious question must be asked: If Obama has an original "long form" birth certificate issued on the day of his birth by the state of Hawaii, why would he also have a "Certification of Live Birth"? It would not be necessary. Critics have called upon President Obama to just give the state of Hawaii his permission to release his original "long form" birth certificate. The "long form" birth certificate would include all the pertinent information about his birth: name of the hospital, name and signature of the attending physician and a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department. This simple action by President Obama would immediately end all speculation about his citizenship and the reasons for the various lawsuits. Instead, President Obama is spending time and money hiring lawyers to fight these lawsuits. Why?

Why doesn't the mainstream press cover these lawsuits? I mean, in 2004, Dan Rather did a bang up job covering something a lot less important. Rather had "authentic" memos critical of President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard service record. Yet there are some legitimate questions about the constitutional eligibility of our president, and yet not one single major press outlet is covering it. Part of the reason is that this issue has supposedly settled by the independent authority on Obama's birth certificate, FactCheck.org. Yet on their Web site, FactCheck.org states:

"The document is a 'certification of birth,' also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response."

So the independent authority on this question has admitted that they have not seen the original long-form birth certificate. And the questions remain.

I sincerely hope that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, in 1961 and therefore meets the constitutional requirements to be president. If not, our Constitution must be followed and procedures put in place for future elections wherein all candidates on the ballot must prove they meet the requirements set forth by the law of the land, the U.S. Constitution.

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Peter Aparicio is a resident of Victoria and a government teacher at Memorial High School.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: akaobama; bho2009; bho44; biden; birthcertificate; bo; certifigate; choomgang; colb; constitution; foreignborn; hawaii; illegitmate; kenya; obama; obamatruthfile; unconstitutional; usurper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I believe that obama is not eligible to be the President. I think you're right and that is exactly why he is fighting to keep his real birth certificate sealed. I also wonder if someone (person or persons) in Chicago know and have proof of this, and are "pulling his strings." Why the private blackberry? Who is on the other end of it?

Finally, I believe obama knows he is an illegal President. This is why he is moving so recklessly fast to attempt to implement his socialist agenda for the US. He may know that it is just a matter of time before he is thrown out of office...

41 posted on 05/06/2009 8:21:25 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: Cincinna
By witholding it, Obama is making the Right go nuts, and get distracted from his dangerous policies and plan for socializing America.
I call BS! That shtick is as old as dinosaur dung.
The "Right" is hardly going nuts or the issue would be a more prominent one than it currently is. It doesn't even get mentioned any more and isn't even on the radar of the MSM. It's a "settled" issue in their book.
And the rest of the "Right" is all over his policies.
Your argument is BUNK, IMHO!
42 posted on 05/06/2009 8:24:02 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: The Brush

I do not think that the truth will come out, and if it does, it will be disbelieved by the American sheeple.


43 posted on 05/06/2009 8:24:05 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: tioga

it was everywhere during the election....I just googled frank marshall davis and found it.


44 posted on 05/06/2009 8:25:57 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Cincinna

Thanks. I figured it was some low life scum.


45 posted on 05/06/2009 8:26:11 PM PDT by unkus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
her...he
46 posted on 05/06/2009 8:26:55 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: The Brush

I do not think that the truth will come out, and if it does, it will be disbelieved by the American sheeple.


47 posted on 05/06/2009 8:27:04 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: All
If the governor of Hawaii has seen the real BC wouldn't she be required by law to spill the beans? If the man in the white house is not legally qualified to be there then the constitution is being violated.
48 posted on 05/06/2009 8:27:42 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: LUV W

BTW, there are sites showing davis lived in Hawaii at the time and knew the family.....interesting theory.


49 posted on 05/06/2009 8:28:15 PM PDT by tioga
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To: BenLurkin

“”Wishful thinking for those who love America — but Americans can dream I suppose””

...dreams of our fore-fathers....


50 posted on 05/06/2009 8:28:19 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: atomicweeder

Thank you atomicweeder.


51 posted on 05/06/2009 8:29:20 PM PDT by unkus
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To: AndyTheBear

Well said, AB!


52 posted on 05/06/2009 8:30:00 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Cincinna

He sure is spending a lot of money for his little joke if you are right.

And if indeed he is spending huge amounts for a joke he is stupid.


53 posted on 05/06/2009 8:30:15 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: LUV W

GMTA?
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What’s that?


54 posted on 05/06/2009 8:30:45 PM PDT by unkus
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To: tioga

Sounds as plausible as anything else about this Zero.

He seems to be made up of smoke and mirrors, lies and slight-of-hand.


55 posted on 05/06/2009 8:31:23 PM PDT by luvie (Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
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To: Frantzie

AMEN Frantzie, actually I hope NOBAMA was born in a storage basket in Iraq...


56 posted on 05/06/2009 8:31:27 PM PDT by KLT (A damn Yankee, from the great state of Mississippi....Go Freepers Go!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unfortunately this "Teacher" also doesn't understand what a Certification of Live Birth is, or how it relates to a Certificate of Live Birth.

In sort, the certification is a computer print out of information contained in the state's birth record database. It's not a "Copy" of any physical document, and it's detailed appearance will depend on when it was printed, not when the underlying certificate was filed. The Certification contains no "real" signatures, merely the "stamp" of the state official responsible for issuing it, as well as the Seal of the state.

A Certificate of Live Birth, is the "long form" or "original" Birth Certificate. It's signed by a parent, and a witness to the birth, usually the attending physician, but it could be a nurse midwife, a "traditional" midwife, or just a relative (supposedly) present at the birth. If the birth was in a hospital, it will also have the signature, or stamp, of the hospital's registrar. The Certificate also contains more information, such as the father's and mother's occupations, and place of residence.

But, when one requests a "birth certificate" from the State of Hawaii, unless one specifies a copy of the "Certificate", one gets the "Certification".

The point of all that is that anyone with a Certificate, would also have a "Certification", if they requested.

57 posted on 05/06/2009 8:32:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: unkus

Great Minds Think Alike.

We both asked the question about Frank Marshall at about
the same time.

Lame, but I thought it kinda funny. :D


58 posted on 05/06/2009 8:32:30 PM PDT by luvie (Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
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To: valkyry1
"How could anyone in good conscious even run for POTUS knowing they did not meet constitutional requirements?"

Ever hear of Narcisstic Personality Disorder? A NPD is way out arrogant and self aggrandizing.

He also is not in this thing alone. Wm Ayers and wife are, and have always been long term planners. They and like non patriots would love the fraud perpetrated on a hated state (US) of helping elect a non-citizen adhering to their Communist persuasion.

vaudine

59 posted on 05/06/2009 8:32:54 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: unkus

er...that’s Frank Marshall DAVIS.

Maybe it’s time to step away from the computer.


60 posted on 05/06/2009 8:34:22 PM PDT by luvie (Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
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