Skip to comments.Bobby Schindler: The Presidentís Torturous Dilemma
Posted on 05/31/2009 9:33:51 AM PDT by wagglebee
I spent a lot of time watching news coverage of President Obamas recent speech at Notre Dame. I couldnt help but be reminded of my sister Terris two-week ordeal that took place at the hospice facility where she was killed in March of 2005.
The was so much that was eerily similarfrom the amount of media present and the pro-lifers who were there in prayer, to the dozens of people who were arrested for protesting against what was taking place.
Along with so many other Catholics, I found it profoundly disturbing that President Obama was not only invited to speak at a Catholic university but that he was given an honorary Doctor of Laws degree. It was what Vatican official Archbishop Raymond Burke referred to as the source of the greatest scandal.
However, just as disturbing to me was watching the Catholic students, parents and faculty praising President Obama by giving him standing ovations for his cant we all just get along about abortion speech.
They seem to have forgotten the presidents extreme pro-abortion record when he was in the Illinois state senate and his already-lengthy actions in favor of abortion as president. His direct assault on the value and dignity of life and human rights runs completely contrary to Catholic teaching.
But that didnt seem to diminish the red carpet treatment he received from Notre Dame President John Jenkins who invited Obama to speak. It is shocking and disheartening that a Catholic university would show such adoration for a president who has already been categorized as one of the most pro-death politicians to ever be elected to office.
Of course watching and listening to the medias fawning coverage was just as difficult as listening to Obama himself. Indeed, the media would repeatedly insist that pro-lifers should try and find common ground with Obamas position on abortion and embryonic stem cell research. It seems that the mainstream media wants to portray conservatives as a group that needs to adhere to the Obama administrations policies and his vision of change or risk becoming extinct. As is frequently the case, they clearly just dont get it.
Amidst all this media coverage I also reflected on Obamas position on euthanasia and his offensive remark about Terri during the campaign. Then candidate Obama claimed his biggest regret as a senator was trying to stop Terris imposed death. This is especially scary because a growing number of health care experts are already warning us that Obamas new health care plan could potentially open wide the door to euthanasia in our nation.
Make no mistake: President Obamas position on how we should treat the most vulnerable members of our society is the same for disabled and medically vulnerable people as it is for innocent unborn children. In short, he seems to believe they fall outside the protection our nation offers. This is especially absurd, given his crusade to protect Americas sworn enemies from methods of torture (his word) that fall far short of what happens during an abortion or a euthanasia death by dehydration and starvation.
This same man who advocates unlimited abortion throughout all nine months of pregnancy and regrets trying to save the innocent from a horrifying death by dehydration is doing everything is his power to protect the rights of the most merciless terrorists in our custody. His administration has even expressed outrage that caterpillars were put in a room with a terrorist as a form of torture. Since the average caterpillar is neither scary nor dangerous, it made me wonder how that would compare to depriving our most vulnerable American citizensinnocent of any crimeof food and water until they dehydrate to death. I find it ironic that he doesnt seem worried about regretting what might happen if any of these terrorists are set free to attack America again.
During all this Notre Dame controversy I also heard more than once from our media that 54 percent of Catholics voted for Obama. That is a number I never agreed with because I believe that zero percent of true Catholics voted for Obama. If you adhere to the teachings of the Catholic Church, you did not vote for him. Catholics who voted for Obama chose the change and false hope offered by a dynamic candidate over the values of their faith. To my mind, they are not Catholics at all.
It was, however, heartening to read of the hundreds of thousands of Catholics (including nearly 100 cardinals and bishops) who did object to the president speaking at Notre Dame and also to see all of the people who showed up to protest Notre Dames decision.
Words have meaning and one can only hope that Obama believes in his own rhetoric about change, because if his position does not change with respect to lifeand he remains an advocate for the continued death of our most vulnerablethen Notre Dame will be forever associated with giving such a person not only a platform for his position but a prestigious award for it as well. What a badge of shame for a previously great university.
Make no mistake: President Obamas position on how we should treat the most vulnerable members of our society is the same for disabled and medically vulnerable people as it is for innocent unborn children. In short, he seems to believe they fall outside the protection our nation offers.
A welfare-state country with an open-borders policy must make unpleasant choices elsewhere, it would seem.
I sincerely hope that this does not make him a martyr.
Thread by Kansas58.
Kansas Abortionist George Tiller was shot today as he was going to Church.
(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...
And, if I'm not very much mistaken, contrary to the Patron of Black America, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s doctrine.
I can’t say I’m surprised, as Obama usage of nominal Catholics and his foolhardy, arrogant pushing of the abortion agenda promise to make this a confrontational and decisive period in the fight for the culture of life.
You are correct.
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given the genuine need to "cut costs" and his obsession with doing so by nationalizing healthcare (?!), in the context of a decade of full-on media persuasion for convenience killing, and the despicable legal precedent established in the starvation of Terri Schiavo, this is a virtual certainty.
In deat states like Florida and aregon and Washingtn, people shuld execute advance directives stating that they want all possible means used to prolong their lives if that is their desire. I personally do not want to be parched to death.
Bobby Schindler is too much of a gentleman for the American people. They can’t understand him.
Having advance directives that specify the proper level of care can be easily bypassed by doctors dedicated to advancing the cause of death,. All they have to do is convene an “ethics” committee to vote to stop treatment and give you 72 hours to find another hospital to treat the patient if you disagree. I have seen it happen, and it will become routine.
Thread by me.
STATEN ISLAND, New York, May 31 /Christian Newswire/ -- Fr. Frank Pavone, National Director of Priests for Life, issued the following statement upon hearing this morning of the killing of abortionist George Tiller:
"I am saddened to hear of the killing of George Tiller this morning. At this point, we do not know the motives of this act, or who is behind it, whether an angry post-abortive man or woman, or a misguided activist, or an enemy within the abortion industry, or a political enemy frustrated with the way Tiller has escaped prosecution. We should not jump to conclusions or rush to judgment.
"But whatever the motives, we at Priests for Life continue to insist on a culture in which violence is never seen as the solution to any problem. Every life has to be protected, without regard to their age or views or actions."
Thread by victim soul.
Dr. Alveda King, Pastoral Associate of Priests for Life and niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., said today that the killing of late-term abortionist George Tiller brings tremendous sorrow.
"Two years ago, I visited George Tiller's clinic in hope of telling him that babies desire mercy," said Dr. King. "I wanted to share with him the harm I experienced from abortion. My prayer was that one day he would join me in repentance. I am deeply sorry that his life was taken before that could happen."
"It's especially horrifying that Dr. Tiller was shot in church," added Dr. King. "My grandmother, Alberta King, was killed by a Christian-hating gunman as she played the organ during Sunday services. Just as the womb should be a safe haven, so should church. I condemn this murder in the strongest possible terms."
A colleague of Dr. King's in a pro-life African-American coalition, Pastor Stephen Broden, also declared, "Pro- lifers are devastated by the Tiller killing. In the great tradition of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., we pray, march, and counsel peacefully. Just as earlier civil rights workers, pro-lifers do not answer violence with violence."
Thread by me.
Upon learning of the tragic murder of abortionist George Tiller, about whom I have written on numerous occasions, our staff realized that I was 34,000 feet in the air. As I would have hoped, American Life Leagues Executive Director, Shaun Kenney, who was on the ground, issued the following public statement on behalf of American Life League:
The presidents sentiments as expressed in this statement represent a serious disassociation between the tragic death of one man in Kansas and the equally tragic deaths of thousands of preborn children that occur on a daily basis throughout this nation. Every act of senseless killing is an outrage and should cause shock in the heart of every one of us. But this is not what I gleaned from the presidents words.
It is, in fact, so very sad that the president can treat of one type of heinous crime as an issue while describing an equally wicked crime in the proper terms. Such contradictory language is typical of the attitude of far too many in our nation who, after more than 36 years of decriminalized killing, have come to view the born as a completely different class of people than the preborn. Too many in America have become desensitized to what abortion does to not-yet born human beings. But at the same time, they are saddened, as they should be, by what equally horrific acts do to born persons. . .
Thread by nickcarraway.
I spoke this morning with Jill Stanek, a leading antiabortion activist and blogger (and active Twitterer), about what the murder of George Tiller, who was director of a Kansas clinic that performed abortions, means for her movement. The conversation provides a window into the anxieties antiabortion activists are feeling today:
Do you worry that Tiller's murder will tarnish the antiabortion movement at a time when more Americans than ever are calling themselves "pro-life"?
It's a personal tragedy that a vigilante killed a guy who has, I think, four kids and 10 grandchildren. As a pro-life movement, our whole reason for existence is to try to stop the killing of human beings. The other side [the pro-abortion rights movement], whose very core is violence and which promotes and profits from violence, has tried for years to peg us as the violent ones. And then something like this happens.
The timing is so bad. [Tiller] was due to retire soon. He was under investigation for his license from the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts. And for him to be killed in his churchit's not good.
What's the fallout for the antiabortion movement?
Already we've seen the pro-abortion movement try to exploit this, which is not a surprise. [President Obama's chief of staff] Rahm Emanuel is famous for saying, "Never let a crisis go wasted" and already we're seeing talk of the Justice Department and [Attorney General] Eric Holder calling in forces to protect the abortion forces and clinics, and we're going to see moves to attempt to stifle free speech. It now falls to the pro-life movement to protect the First Amendment.
The pro-life movement is the most peaceful social justice movement in American history. There are a thousand abortion clinics and small groups of protesters outside many of them and nothing ever happens, except that some pro-lifers get run over by pro-aborts [pro-abortion rights activists]. So this is so ironic. There has never been a social justice movement that has been totally focused on saving human lives, as opposed to expanding voting rights or other rights, like the pro-life movement is. . .
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Thread by ex-Texan from 2003.
Wichita, KS - According to a recent Gallup poll, the majority of Americans believe they are going to heaven and very few believe in a literal hell as a place of eternal suffering for sin. But late-term abortionist George Tiller says hell is a very real place -- a location in which he plans on spending all of eternity.
During a recent demonstration outside the walls of the nation's largest abortion facility, Mr. Tiller was approached by three unassuming women, each an independent sidewalk counselor. Although Tiller regularly parks his armor-laden vehicle in a secure parking garage on his clinic property, on the morning of January 22, 2003, he declared he was "celebrating freedom" by parking his truck on the public street and walking half a block to work.
The opportunity did not go unseized. A sidewalk counselor repeatedly told abortionist Tiller that God was concerned about the babies he murders through abortion. She also expressed that God was concerned about Tiller's soul. Other counselors urged Tiller to repent for the "shedding of innocent blood," and to beg Jesus to forgive his murderous sins.
With Tiller arriving at the front gate to his property, a counselor finished her plea, "You can't go to heaven unrepentant, George; you are going to hell." The abortionist George Tiller instantly quipped, "Abortion is worth going to hell for."
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