Posted on 08/02/2009 4:56:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
And then one of our moderators spotted this:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate
It has several clues, but also there's this question:
Who is E. F. Lavender?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=earth+friendly+lavender&aq=f&oq=&aqi
Earth Friendly Lavender detergent?
Thanks. Sounds like you nailed it. Now if only we could move on to something worthwhile - like overwhelming our Congresscritters during their recess on health-care and taxation.
Easy as pie. Just upload the image at Tinypic.com , and they will provide the HTML to post it here. We eagerly await!
Hey troll, did you sign up to badmouth Orly Taitz? Tell us a bit about yourself
Welcome. Our first Kenyan troll?
Might want to pay some attention to “Thon’s” sign up date.
Critical Eye for the Freep Guy!
Good thread all!
No. Elected officials do not have the same scrutiny as career employees of the US Government. No investigation for top secret clearance, etc.
Please see the following:
In Kenya, birth registration became compulsory for whites in 1904. For all birth, death and marriage certificates, you will need to contact the Department of Civil Registration in Nairobi.
If your ancestors were of British origin but were born in Kenya, the civil registration documents may possibly be available in the UK. The National Archives, Kew hold records relating to records kept by British consulates abroad and at sea. From the nineteenth century they were obliged to send the records that they recorded to the General Register Office of England and Wales. The army also kept its own registers for at home and abroad.
Bzzt, wrong. It was shillings and pence until 1966, when it became shillings and pennies (wierd, yup). Linky - had a better one but lost it - http://www.centralbank.go.ke/Currency/CurrencyHistory.aspx
[I will make an Andy Warhol style graphic later ]
I’ll wait to see it!!
My personal opinion is that he would not, given your hypothetical circumstances. The only case that addresses it, even in a peripheral way is US v.Ark. And in that case, it's only in the dissent where Fuller writes in criticizing the majority, and in pointing out what he characterizes as unreasonable...
Considering the circumstances surrounding the framing of the Constitution, I submit that it is unreasonable to conclude that "natural-born citizen" applied to everybody born within the geographical tract known as the United States, irrespective of circumstances, and that the children of foreigners, happening to be born to them while passing through the country, whether of royal parentage or not, or whether of the Mongolian, Malay or other race, were eligible to the Presidency, while children of our citizens, born abroad, were not.
Of course, it's a dissenting opinion, which does not set precedent but could be found to be germane and relevant in a case that dealt specifically with presidential eligibility.
And despite the protestation of many, this issue of presidential eligibility and what the specific definition of "natural-born" citizen really is, has never been adjudicated in the history of the country. It is unsettled law, although there are certainly many cases that could be cited and would probably inform a jurist's opinion.
There are a few newbies chiming in that it’s a fake. They’ve gone from earth friendly soap to numerology to shillings in an effort to quickly debunk the document.
So how is it that WND is finding similar standard forms known to be valid from Kenya?
Bump
Welcome, n00bie (that’s the nice version; n00b is the not so nice version). And as you have no doubt reaqd, the Perkins v Elg case prior to Wong held that Miss Elg was an American citizen and allowed to stand the lower court’s designation of her as a natural born citizen ... her faqther was a naturalized American citizne at her birth, and the wife—by then existing statutes—was an American citizen through the father. She was also born on American soil (jus soli + jus sanguin)
What an amazing coincidence. You and Thon just happen to register on FR today - of all days - to prove the Kenyan doc a fake. Maybe you is and maybe you ain’t - could you post the picture of Thon’s Kenyan document on this thread? There are many people here who want to know what the deal is.
Thanks!
“d” also means “penny”...not just “pence”. Therefore, I don’t see a problem. A cent and a penny is the same damn thing.
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