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Orly Taitz responds to forgery charges
Salon ^ | Aug. 4, 2009 | Alex Koppelman

Posted on 08/04/2009 11:27:49 AM PDT by Plutarch

Orly Taitz, the Birther lawyer who released the document that was supposedly a copy of President Obama's Kenyan birth certificate, has now taken to her blog with an angry screed in response to the evidence that her find is in fact a poorly done forgery.

Referring to the discovery that the purportedly Kenyan document was almost certainly based on a copy of a birth certificate issued for an Australian man, David Jeffrey Bomford, Taitz writes, "Recently Obama’s thugs in main stream (sic) media came up with this Bomford report in order to stop my efforts in exposing and prosecuting Obama. Though typically I don’t have time to waste on each and every dumb obot, since it got to National TV and my children's friends called my children, I’ll spend a few minutes to debunk the obots." She continues...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; orlytaitz; taitz
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To: the invisib1e hand
If a guy counterfeits a dollar, does that mean the dollar in your pocket is counterfeit?

I was groping with the same sentiment, but I couldn't find a way of expressing it succinctly :0)

21 posted on 08/04/2009 11:51:33 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: SoConPubbie; Plutarch

“What’s wrong Plutarch, cat got your tongue or does this basic logic escape you totally?”

Post and hide.


22 posted on 08/04/2009 11:52:20 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: agere_contra
It might very well turn out to be a forgery - that's why it need to be authenticated against the registry.

I think you're right. As I recall, she wasn't making a big splash about the Kenyan BC UNTIL it could either be authenticated or debunked as a forgery. I looked at a copy of it on her website, and she seemed to be playing down its significance untiul she was certain.

IMO, this is just more Rahm Emmanuel orchestrated attack to try to discredit the BC before we know if it is real or not!!

23 posted on 08/04/2009 11:52:50 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Plutarch

You have to understand legal maneuvering to see what Orly is doing here.

Regardless of whether the Kenyan BC is legit or not...it is a reason to file a motion to compel discovery which would open a door that no one has been successful in doing.

If the BC is legit then the game goes to a whole other level if it isn’t but Orly is allowed discovery (which can be very wide in scope) than it served its legal purpose.

Additionally the Google malware advisory on her site within hours of the original posting is quite suspect.

Why are they trying SO HARD to discourage people from looking at the information?

In here somewhere is a smoking gun and the stakes have never been higher so the games have only just begun.


24 posted on 08/04/2009 11:56:10 AM PDT by surfer
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To: allmendream

Such coincidences do occur.

There was a Federal Reserve note - a dollar bill, issued in 1963, from the Dallas Federal Reserve branch. It was dated Series 1963, had a huge K in a seal on the front, and an 11 in each corner.

People said it commemorated Kennedy’s death in Dallas in November, the 11th month, of 1963.

But Dallas had been designated region 11 of the Federal reserve for years, and the letter K is the eleventh number.

There was nothing unusual at all about these notes, but all the “signs” lined up.

Many of the “Paul is dead” clues were uncanny as well. But last I heard he’s still alive and well.

I’m not saying the certificate is real, or a hoax. I don’t know! But I am saying that the coincidental number does not prove it’s a hoax.

Yes, Ms. Taitz needs to be extremely careful to safeguard her credibility. Although filing the document with the court and asking for authentication seems to be the right thing to do, as long as there was some initial “screening” before the fact on her part.

Again, none of this would be necessary if Obama were forthcoming about his past.

Sometimes I wonder if all this time and effort is taking place because we don’t have bigger problems to face. Obviously we do - although the media should be doing this work for us.


25 posted on 08/04/2009 11:56:35 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: Plutarch; PA Engineer

Well, the Orly Taitz certificate remains to be checked out by the experts. So far, everything seems to be credible, and the desperate efforts to discredit it have all failed to do so.

As for this nonsense from a leftist source, how does the fact that leftists are now posting bunches of faked and forged birth certificates on the web demonstrate that Taitz’s certificate is a fake?

See #8 here, for instance.

Or the posts at Daily Kos calling on all leftists to start turning out fake birth certificates and plaster them around the net to confuse people.

Sorry, but the sudden appearance of a poorly forged Aussie BC proves nothing.


26 posted on 08/04/2009 11:56:58 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marron

Yes, my conclusion is the Australian BC is the forgery.

I’ve read most of the threads and confusing as it is, and ignorant as I am of computer image forgery, the latest I’ve followed leads to the Australian BC as faked.

I am lovin’ some FR now, too. This is better than any mystery novel I’ve read for a while (the entire Obama hiding his past)....More clues on FR than anywhere.

I have always thought that Obama was hiding paternity re: the BC...now, I’m not so sure. Lately, I’m thinking he is Davis’ child, but WAS born in Kenya to the dupe Obama, Sr.

What an odd woman to live the life she did in the very early ‘60’s. Not really making a moral judgement, just an observation.

This story reminds me of the Black Dahlia mystery. So many odd things to tally up.


27 posted on 08/04/2009 11:58:17 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: cvq3842

That partucular “coincidence” and the Aussie BC have me pretty sure that something smells fishy, and we are a long way from the ocean.


28 posted on 08/04/2009 11:58:26 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: Plutarch
In posting prior to vetting the Kenya BC, Orly didn't do the 'Birther' movement any favors, and in persisting to defend the Kenya BC, she isn't doing herself any favors.

Bomford is extremely likely to be a forgery, 99.9% and the two documents are mutually exclusive. Bomford was discredited in yesterdays's mega-thread

Oops, better do a doubletake!

This bozo Koppelman is barking out his arse.

29 posted on 08/04/2009 11:58:44 AM PDT by dalight
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To: surfer

I think that a lot of people are trying to discredit Taitz and her site without knowing whether or not there is any “fire” along with the “smoke.”

And there are people on the other side of the issue too, I’m sure.

But a zealous lefty who hacks Taitz’s site, or a zealous “birther” who posts false info hoping it hurts Obama, may end up doing tremendous damage, without knowing the facts at all - just HOPING to swing things their way.

If Taitz knows what she’s doing and gets discovery, then great.


30 posted on 08/04/2009 12:01:53 PM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: DustyMoment

Another hour, another smoke screen article..

Where’s the original BC ???


31 posted on 08/04/2009 12:02:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Plutarch
It is time for conservatives to distance themselves from the obviously unstable Dr.Orly Taitz. She has recently discredited herself with her near hysterical performance on MSNBC and this screed of hers is simply disreputable. She is a liability with which the conservative movement can no longer afford to be associated.

As for the birther movement itself, the issue of the legitimacy of Barack Obama's birth remains theoretically open. It is theoretically possible that his mother or grandmother filed an application falsely alleging a private birth at home in Honolulu which resulted in a Birth Certificate which purported a birth in Hawaii. This document in turn spawned a Certification of Live Birth and two newspaper announcements. All succeeding documents were automatically generated and all succeeding documents were as fraudulent as the initial application. All subsequent pronouncements by the officials of the state of Hawaii properly reflected that proper procedures were followed and correctly recited that the documents show a birth in Honolulu, Hawaii. Hence, garbage in, garbage out and all the garbage was turned out on automatic pilot. That, at any rate, it is the remaining scenario to show the Barack Obama is not a naturall born citizen of the United States.

This scenario is theoretically possible but not likely. Far more likely is a simple explanation that Barack Obama received an ordinary birth certificate as is normally issued upon live birth in a Honolulu hospital. But that is only a likelihood. Therefore, I believe that we should maintain an open mind and a steadfast insistence that Obama produce the underlying documents which would settle the provenance of the Certificate of Live Birth.

Meanwhile, as a matter of our own survival is is time to say au revoir to Doctor Dr.Orly Taitz.


32 posted on 08/04/2009 12:03:24 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: agere_contra

Well said.


33 posted on 08/04/2009 12:04:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Plutarch; Fred Nerks; editor-surveyor; SatinDoll; little jeremiah; mojito
A 1959 Queensland, Australia birth registration.

http://www.mabonativetitle.com/info/eMBirthCertificate.htm


34 posted on 08/04/2009 12:05:46 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Red Steel

This is meaningless blather from someone who doesn’t understand how Photoshop works.

Read my post here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307802/posts?page=15#15


35 posted on 08/04/2009 12:06:11 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Too bad presidents don't come with certificates of authenticity.)
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To: allmendream

Yes - again, I just want the facts found, impartially and thoroughly.

I don’t know anything about this certificate.

But stranger things have happened than a few numbers lining up. That’s my only point.

Thanks.


36 posted on 08/04/2009 12:06:11 PM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: Red Steel

Thanks for posting that....I didn’t dig thru the longer threads to find that detail last night,.


37 posted on 08/04/2009 12:06:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Plutarch

New current info posted today on www.antimullah.com on the Taitz/Keyes case.


38 posted on 08/04/2009 12:07:50 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Orly should not be putting her reputation on the purported Kenyan document.

Geez...I don't think she has said her document is authentic as yet...she is trying to determine that....

39 posted on 08/04/2009 12:09:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: allmendream
"Document # 47O44 just happens to be about the “47” year old “0”bama who is the “44”th President?"

He's 48.

40 posted on 08/04/2009 12:11:12 PM PDT by Hatteras
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