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Pelosi: Forget censure of Wilson (it would actually permit an airing of grievances and defense)
UPI ^ | 9-10-2009 | no byline

Posted on 09/10/2009 12:36:21 PM PDT by a fool in paradise

Democrats must drop efforts to censure a GOP representative who shouted "You lie" during President Obama's speech, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday.

Democratic leaders Thursday were looking into what formal action the House could take against Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., whose outburst during Obama's address on healthcare reform to a joint session of Congress the night before, shocked the chamber, The Hill reported.

"It's time for us to talk about healthcare, not Joe Wilson," said Pelosi, D-Calif.

One option Democrats considered was censure.

Pelosi nixed censure, as well as a call for Wilson to apologize on the floor.

"I'm on to healthcare reform. I'm not going to discuss Joe Wilson," she said. "I think his action spoke for itself. He has apologized. He will figure out what is appropriate for him to do."

After Obama told Congress that his healthcare reform plan would not permit illegal immigrants be eligible for public health insurance, Wilson shouted, "You lie," drawing boos from the floor and criticism from both sides of the aisle. Wilson later apologized.

Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson of Connecticut said Wilson should apologize.

"It's clear that the members of our caucus are quite upset and quite angry," Larson said after a caucus meeting. "We are also in the process of looking at what is appropriate conduct on the floor."

Obama, asked about the incident after meeting with his Cabinet, said Wilson "apologized quickly and with out equivocation, and I'm appreciative of that."

"I do think that, as I said last night, we have to get to the point where we can have a conversation about big, important issues that matter to the American people, without vitriol, without name-calling, without the assumption of the worst in other people's motives," he said


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1 posted on 09/10/2009 12:36:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise

Obama lies. Granny dies.


2 posted on 09/10/2009 12:38:25 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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Here are Obama's own quotes that come immediately before Joe Wilson's remark:
Obama: Some of people's concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but by prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Now, such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple. (Applause.) There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms -- the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.

Joe Wilson(R): You lie.

Called his critics "liars". Why oppose legislation that would EXPLICITLY PROHIBIT illegal immigrants from getting coverage?
3 posted on 09/10/2009 12:38:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama outright called his critics "liars" in his speech last night. Where's the apology?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Obama’s speech will always and forever be known as the “You Lie” speech. Whatever impact he hoped to make was destroyed by Wilson, and Peolosi knows it.


4 posted on 09/10/2009 12:38:37 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: a fool in paradise

Bi-partsianship? Yeah, they’ve heard of it.


5 posted on 09/10/2009 12:38:52 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: a fool in paradise

So now the Republicans simply play clips of Democrats booing during Bush’s State of Union speech. Yeah, like that will happen.


6 posted on 09/10/2009 12:39:14 PM PDT by Jackson57
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To: a fool in paradise
Some might wear "Rude but accurate" as a badge of honor.
7 posted on 09/10/2009 12:39:18 PM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: a fool in paradise

The Nancy Botoxi doesn’t want the hearings to reveal that Obama actually outlies Clinton - a remarkable achievement.


8 posted on 09/10/2009 12:39:20 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: a fool in paradise

Does not want the story to continue and the democrats conduce toward bush aired.


9 posted on 09/10/2009 12:39:24 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: frogjerk
I seem to recall a whole political PARTY that made a scare campaign about a president killing off grandma.

DNC's Social Security Cartoon [Dubyah pushes wheelchair-bound invalid over cliff] (Democratic National Committee ^ | 2002-10-03)

Then again, on the eve of the speech yesterday, the CURRENT president of the United States said that grandma will die if we DON'T pass this bill.

Talk about scare tactics.

Obama Demands Healtcare reform (AMERICANS WILL DIE IF WE DON'T) (via drudge 9/9/9)


10 posted on 09/10/2009 12:39:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama outright called his critics "liars" in his speech last night. Where's the apology?)
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To: a fool in paradise

This is working out very well by drawing attention to the lies Obama told during his speech. Pelosi would never try to censure because it would come out about the Obama lies.

This is too good — attention drawn to illegals getting healthcre.


11 posted on 09/10/2009 12:39:27 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: a fool in paradise

She’s right and it’s a politically astute move that will get her points.


12 posted on 09/10/2009 12:39:44 PM PDT by EveningStar
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I suspect that someone told Pelosi that there was video of Democrats doing the same act from the Bush years...and they’d be standing there grinning in front of the camera and not having any speech to give. The other problem here is that Joe might explain the lie and actually sustain it...and then what? They can’t censure the President for lying.


13 posted on 09/10/2009 12:40:23 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: a fool in paradise
Joe Wilson should propose a bill that would prohibit this type of behaviour.

That would prevent the liberals from doing it when they become the minority party of congress.

14 posted on 09/10/2009 12:40:56 PM PDT by A Cyrenian
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To: EveningStar

Hey, did her Pelousiness ever apologize to the CIA for calling them liars?


15 posted on 09/10/2009 12:41:09 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: a fool in paradise
Airing of grievances? What about the "Feats of Strength"? Is it a violation of the establishment clause to have a Festivus pole?
16 posted on 09/10/2009 12:41:11 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Melchior
Obama’s speech will always and forever be known as the “You Lie” speech. Whatever impact he hoped to make was destroyed by Wilson, and Peolosi knows it.

Quite true. And she knows further airing of the incident will only burn it into the public's memory.

17 posted on 09/10/2009 12:41:21 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
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To: a fool in paradise

They might start asking why Rangle is not in handcuffs.


18 posted on 09/10/2009 12:41:26 PM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: a fool in paradise
"I do think that, as I said last night, we have to get to the point where we can have a conversation about big, important issues that matter to the American people, without vitriol, without name-calling, without the assumption of the worst in other people's motives"

I hope you overcome your internal struggles & conflicting emotions, Barry.

Get back to us when you find true inner peace.

19 posted on 09/10/2009 12:41:29 PM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: a fool in paradise

I was very disappointed — when Joe Wilson apologized. DimocRATS give vitriol at every opportunity, but don’t take it nearly as well as they give. Remember them booing Bush during State Of The Union addresses!


20 posted on 09/10/2009 12:41:51 PM PDT by JohnQ1 ("Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever." Oscar Wilde)
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