Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Whisky on (Antarctic) ice: Ernest Shackleton...left a stash at the bottom of the world.
Global Post ^ | October 26, 2009 | Emily Stone

Posted on 10/26/2009 6:07:49 PM PDT by xzins

CAPE ROYDS, Antarctica — This spit of black volcanic rock that juts out along the coast of Antarctica is an inhospitable place. Temperatures drop below –50 Fahrenheit and high winds cause blinding snowstorms...

But if you happen upon the small wooden hut that sits at Cape Royds and wriggled yourself underneath, you'd find a surprise stashed in the foot and a half of space beneath the floorboards. Tucked in the shadows and frozen to the ground are two cases of Scotch whisky left behind 100 years ago by Sir Ernest Shackleton after a failed attempt at the South Pole.

Conservators discovered the wooden cases in January 2006. They were unable to dislodge the crates, but are going in with special tools in January during the Antarctic summer to try to retrieve them. An international treaty dictates that the crates, and any intact bottles that are inside, remain in Antarctica unless they need to be taken off the continent for conservation reasons. The whisky's condition after a century of freezing and thawing is unknown...

Shackleton turned around 97 miles short of his destination, telling his wife, "I thought you’d rather have a live donkey than a dead lion." When the ship arrived in 1909 to pick the men up, they left their supplies behind in their hut, including reindeer sleeping bags, tins of boiled mutton and bottled gooseberries. And, as we now know, they also abandoned two cases of Charles Mackinlay & Co. whisky.

(Excerpt) Read more at globalpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antarctic; godsgravesglyphs; science; shackleton; whiskey

1 posted on 10/26/2009 6:07:50 PM PDT by xzins
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: xzins

Very cool. Especially since I like scotch whisky...


2 posted on 10/26/2009 6:09:46 PM PDT by devane617
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins

Shack was one tough dude.


3 posted on 10/26/2009 6:12:42 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins
The whisky's condition after a century of freezing and thawing is unknown...

Anyone know at what temperature whisky freezes?

I'm thinking it's in good shape.

4 posted on 10/26/2009 6:13:02 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins

I could forgive him everything except leaving behind the Scotch, unforgivable! ;-)


5 posted on 10/26/2009 6:14:04 PM PDT by doc1019
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins
The whisky's condition after a century of freezing and thawing is unknown.

They are in luck. I just happen to be a researcher that studies the condition of 100 year old frozen whiskey. Just send me a case, with a hefty government grant, and I should be able to give a full report in no time.

6 posted on 10/26/2009 6:14:21 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SnuffaBolshevik

Whiskey in Shack’s days was 160 to 180 proof by today’s standards.

You bet it will be good.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 6:16:44 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: xzins

Apparently he liked his whiskey on ice.


8 posted on 10/26/2009 6:17:02 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: devane617

Scotch is a great whiskey. I think it’s the best.

Although bourbon does have it’s place in the world, too.


9 posted on 10/26/2009 6:17:52 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: xzins

>> An international treaty dictates that the crates, and any intact bottles that are inside, remain in Antarctica ...

OK! Yes; just what we need - a One World Government to tell us riff raff what to do - or not do. Hell, maybe we shoulda followed Chamberlain’s lead and gone with Mr. Hitler... /s


10 posted on 10/26/2009 6:19:07 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins

E.S. was one of the great leaders of men


11 posted on 10/26/2009 6:21:20 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins

That will be some smoooooooooooth hooch...

But why all the surprise (by some) that they stocked the stuff on this expedition???

There was certainly not going to be all that much to do but, mush the poor dogs, eat salt pork, and probably the dogs eventually...

And freeze yer arse off...

Take a few slugs of that stuff makes the unbearable, somewhat tolerable...

I kinda laugh at the so-called “modern” adventurers who make these treks with low-residue powerbars and Evian water...Woo Hoo...You go you Greenpeace Eco-freaks...hehehe

Don’t forget to pack yer Ozone probes...hahaha


12 posted on 10/26/2009 6:23:06 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: C210N

You’ll need a second opinion...So I’ll be over soon...

And not that I’ll care much if anyone agrees with my opinion either...hehehe


13 posted on 10/26/2009 6:24:45 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

Indeed; I read a biography of Shack; he was a MAN, and there are far too few of him around today.

While he was taking risks as a an explorer, he NEVER lost a man on one of his expeditions. Read about the voyage of the Endurance, the open boat journey, and the trek across South Georgia. Simply amazing.


14 posted on 10/26/2009 6:25:23 PM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: xzins

Did he leave a note with the supplies?


15 posted on 10/26/2009 6:26:33 PM PDT by GOPJ (Stories "in danger of leaching out" are concerns of storm troopers, not journalist - G.Joyce)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins

I’ve been on a FReeper cruise and to a FReeper rally. There has been a FReeper convention (still bummed I missed it).

Has there ever been a FReeper expedition?


16 posted on 10/26/2009 6:27:25 PM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: henkster

I believe I saw the Shackelton adventure in Antarctica at an Imax about 6 or 7 years ago. Such a great story and the 3d round made it come alive.

But...they didn’t mention the whiskey.

I, too, am willing to sacrifice myself in the name of science and be one of the taste testers of the current condition of this old, old whiskey.


17 posted on 10/26/2009 6:29:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: henkster

Not only was he a man, he was a leader - a quality sorely lacking in the US today.

His men would follow him into hell - their faith in God, Shack, and each other kept them alive.


18 posted on 10/26/2009 6:31:11 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: henkster

Shackleton is the reason why I call my wife “The Boss”. I read about him also. Because of the way he was, they call called him “The Boss”. She is strong and reliable just like him, so, it fits!


19 posted on 10/26/2009 6:31:44 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: windcliff; onedoug
They were unable to dislodge the crates, but are going in with special tools in January


20 posted on 10/26/2009 6:32:55 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: C210N
"They are in luck. I just happen to be a researcher that studies the condition of 100 year old frozen whiskey. Just send me a case, with a hefty government grant, and I should be able to give a full report in no time."

Do you research techniques involve analyzing your subject in a fashion similar to this...


21 posted on 10/26/2009 6:33:55 PM PDT by CapnJack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: xzins

There is no telling what those kinds of extreme temperatures would do to the whiskey, assuming that the bottles remained intact and sealed.

I’d volunteer to taste it....


22 posted on 10/26/2009 6:35:10 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stylecouncilor

:>)


23 posted on 10/26/2009 6:44:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: stylecouncilor
going in with special tools

That cracked me up. Thanks for taking the time.

24 posted on 10/26/2009 6:47:28 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: xzins

That’s some serious Scotch on the rocks.


25 posted on 10/26/2009 6:52:58 PM PDT by GnL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: henkster
The story of the Endurance and Shackleton's extraordinary leadership is inspiring. However, in some ways, I was even more awed by the story of “Shackleton's Forgotten Men”-—the brave group of men, having also lost their ship, who laid out supplies and food stores from the other side of the Antarctica for Shackleton. They carried out their duty, not knowing the fate of Shackelton and not knowing if they would be rescued. Three were lost. After returning from his fateful mission, Shackleton then set out to rescue the “forgotten men.” You can imagine the moment when they saw Shackleton's boat arrive-—Earnest himself was the first man ashore to greet his men. Shackleton summed up their journey by saying there was “no more remarkable story of human endeavour...than that long march” I am sure you can find the book on Amazon. A worthwhile read!
26 posted on 10/26/2009 6:55:42 PM PDT by FlyingFish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: SnuffaBolshevik

Not sure. Pure ethanol freezes at like -175 degrees F. I would imagine that whiskey would freeze at a much higher temp. Say...-60? Just a guess.


27 posted on 10/26/2009 7:00:32 PM PDT by oldvike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: QBFimi

>>>Yes; just what we need - a One World Government to tell us riff raff what to do - or not do. Hell, maybe we shoulda followed Chamberlain’s lead and gone with Mr. Hitler...

Since this story is about liquor, we can hope you are merely posting while drunk.


28 posted on 10/26/2009 7:13:39 PM PDT by tlb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Important info from the article:

Richard Paterson, master blender at Whyte & Mackay, the Glasgow whisky company that now owns the Mackinlay label, is eager to learn of the whisky's fate. He's equally hopeful that he gets to taste some of it.

He has a 1907 letter from Shackleton acknowledging receipt of the cases, along with a photograph of the bottles' label. The company may have donated the cases, which Paterson said cost 28 shillings each, as polar explorers came looking for sponsors for their trips, which were usually run on tight budgets. "Shackleton has been one of my heroes for many years," he said. "It's nice to think that perhaps we helped him when his other spirits were down, that our spirits kicked him up a wee bit."

Paterson said he'd expect that when bottled, the whisky was heavy and peaty, which was the style in that era. He'd like to sample it by sticking a needle through the cork and extracting some of the liquid with a syringe. If the bottles stayed airtight — a big if since the corks may have shifted as they were expanding and contracting with the changes in temperature — the whisky would likely taste much as it did in Shackleton's day, Paterson said.

A whisky's flavor develops as it's aged in barrels because air is able to reach it. Once it's bottled and cut off from external oxygen, it stops changing in taste. If oxygen was sneaking back into the bottles, the whisky would have continued aging and could have started to go bad, much like food that's left out too long.

Even if the bulk of the bottles remain in Antarctica for historic reasons, Paterson is hopeful that a couple can be returned to the company. One would go in the Mackinlay family archives and the other could be auctioned off, he said.

29 posted on 10/26/2009 7:20:37 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stevie_d_64
That will be some smoooooooooooth hooch...

A few bottles of frozen one year old scotch? I can do that by tomorrow.

30 posted on 10/26/2009 7:22:58 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: henkster
While he was taking risks as a an explorer, he NEVER lost a man on one of his expeditions. Read about the voyage of the Endurance, the open boat journey, and the trek across South Georgia. Simply amazing.

I think you can get a movie from Amazon with actual footage from the expedition.

31 posted on 10/26/2009 7:29:05 PM PDT by Western Phil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: xzins

If you can freeze vodka, why not scotch? But I will surrender my portion to those who fancy the stuff. I’m just a wimpy, red wine drinker.


32 posted on 10/26/2009 7:30:59 PM PDT by GVnana ("Obama is incredibly naive and grossly egotistical." Sarkozy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: oldvike
Freezing Point of Ethanol based Water Solutions gives the Fahrenheit freezing point for Ethanol Concentration in % by volume. At 50% the given freezing point is -25 F.
33 posted on 10/26/2009 7:37:19 PM PDT by dr_lew
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Initial reports coming in...

They have found four, no three, we are now told they have found two bottles of 100 year old Scotch at the site of the Shackleton expidition campsite. Details to follow....

34 posted on 10/26/2009 7:39:01 PM PDT by 11Bush
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dr_lew

Thanks for the response. That is one cool website. It’s in my favorites now.


35 posted on 10/26/2009 7:44:08 PM PDT by oldvike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: xzins

bump


36 posted on 10/26/2009 7:58:19 PM PDT by gibsosa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

They had the Shackleton Exhibit up here in Massachusetts at the Peabody Essex Museum, which is a great nautical and overall museum.

He ranks as one of the singular leaders of men, of all time. If you wanted to see how to lead men, that is how it is done.

Those men were an exceptionally good crew with high morale to begin with, so that made his job easier, but even easier was beyond what most men have ever done.


37 posted on 10/26/2009 8:01:45 PM PDT by rlmorel (Obama, The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Shackleton turned around 97 miles short of his destination, telling his wife, "I thought you’d rather have a live donkey than a dead lion." When the ship arrived in 1909 to pick the men up

God almighty, the newsmedia can't get one fucking thing right. Shackleton pushed the Endurance southward until the ship was locked in sea ice and was eventually crushed and sunk. He and his men took to camping on icebergs drifting north and then took to 3 small boats when the ice islands got weak. They landed on Elephant Island and from there Shack and two others took the small boat Caird to a whaling station at South Georgia that sent a rescue operation. The ordeal took two years. Their tobacco was long gone at Elephant Island, along with the radio with which Shack allegedly serenaded his wife, and any hoarded Scotch.
38 posted on 10/26/2009 8:33:37 PM PDT by NightOfTheLivingDems (Destroy the Dems in Two Thousand Ten)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins

39 posted on 10/26/2009 9:03:52 PM PDT by concentric circles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NightOfTheLivingDems

“God almighty, the newsmedia can’t get one fucking thing right.”

No, they got that right. The reference is to Shackleton’s earlier 1909 expedition that got within 97 miles of the South Pole. The expedition you’re referring to was in 1914.


40 posted on 10/26/2009 11:37:36 PM PDT by Poundstone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: xzins; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re: two cases of Scotch whisky left behind 100 years ago by Sir Ernest Shackleton... & An international treaty dictates that the crates, and any intact bottles that are inside, remain in Antarctica unless they need to be taken off the continent for conservation reasons...

Gad... zooks!

Free... the Shackleton Two!

After all, we really need... a worthy cause to rally behind, don't we?

41 posted on 10/27/2009 3:07:17 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stylecouncilor

Bendy straws! Excellent! LOL


42 posted on 10/27/2009 4:03:14 AM PDT by dinodino
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: texas booster

A whisky’s flavor develops as it’s aged in barrels because air is able to reach it. Once it’s bottled and cut off from external oxygen, it stops changing in taste. If oxygen was sneaking back into the bottles, the whisky would have continued aging and could have started to go bad, much like food that’s left out too long.


Party pooper!!!

;-)


43 posted on 10/27/2009 5:15:21 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Go ahead, call me a racist...One more time...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: stylecouncilor

Now I’m thirsty.


44 posted on 10/27/2009 6:45:03 AM PDT by windcliff
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]


· join list or digest · view topics · view or post blog · bookmark · post a topic · subscribe ·

 
Gods
Graves
Glyphs
Note: this topic is from 10/26/2009.

Blast from the Past.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
 

·Dogpile · Archaeologica · LiveScience · Archaeology · Biblical Archaeology Society ·
· Discover · Nat Geographic · Texas AM Anthro News · Yahoo Anthro & Archaeo · Google ·
· The Archaeology Channel · Excerpt, or Link only? · cgk's list of ping lists ·


45 posted on 02/06/2010 10:01:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


· join list or digest · view topics · view or post blog · bookmark · post a topic · subscribe ·

 
Gods
Graves
Glyphs
Note: this topic is from 10/26/2009. Thanks xzins.

Blast from the Past.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
 

·Dogpile · Archaeologica · LiveScience · Archaeology · Biblical Archaeology Society ·
· Discover · Nat Geographic · Texas AM Anthro News · Yahoo Anthro & Archaeo · Google ·
· The Archaeology Channel · Excerpt, or Link only? · cgk's list of ping lists ·


46 posted on 02/06/2010 10:03:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson