Can't be too careful with the enemies of the revolution, you see.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 11/21/2009 2:24:33 PM PST by UnBubba
I hold an executive position at a private corporation located on Long Island, NY (250+ employees). On Thursday, November 19, 2009, two casually dressed gentlemen showed up at our facility (unannounced) and asked for the Human Resource Manager.
They, unilaterally, determined that our company had a connection to the public safety and national security concerns of the United States. As such, they are requiring us to provide them with 100% of the Form I-9 - Employment Eligibility Verifications for all our current employees and employees who have been terminated within the past 12 months.
The purpose of the form is for an employer to determine if each new employee hired after 11-6-86 is authorized to work in the United States. This form is not filed with any government agency, but must be maintained by the employer.
On this form a newly hired employeey must list their name, maiden name, address, SS#, DOB, proclaim their citizen status (under the penalty of perjury) and provide sufficient documentation to prove they are qualified to work in the United States. Qualified documentation includes passport, driver's license, voter registration card, U.S. military card, school report card, birth certificate and many more obscure proofs of ID.
Homeland Security (ICE - Immigration and Custom Enforcement Division) wants a copy of all these I-9 forms within 2 weeks.
I am very interested in the opinion of my fellow Freeper's regarding this issue.
As a retired defense company contractor, I can tell you that all of us have been subject to these inspections for many years. Unless you have been hiring illegal aliens to work in your business, you should be happy that the government is auditing private industry to insure compliance with our laws.
In my opinion, the only straight-forward way of ridding our country of illegals is to enforce our employment laws. It is high time that any and every employer of illegals is prosecuted. Once these employers realize the risk, they will stop, illegals will no longer be able to find jobs other than as nannys and housekeepers, and most will return to Mexico and elsewhere. Problem solved without having to try and round up millions of illegals. However, do not hold your breath waiting for our corrupt government to enforce this law.
If they used the same procedure for everyone running for president and right to vote, I would say yes.
I agree, it’s a good thing those are looked at...but they should have announced the visit for sure.
I’ve never had to allow or provide a copy of the documentation for the I-9. I use my passport, and all they record are the Passport ID number and the personal data as it’s recorded within. If I recall correctly, even an expired passport is a valid document, because it includes a photo, as long as it is identifiable as you.
Maybe they’ll show up at the White House.
Can't be too careful with the enemies of the revolution, you see.
Probably canvassing for business that SEIU can target for unionization...that would be my guess. If you have enough illegals then SEIU will soon visit.
Its good, but not foolproof.
I overheard a conversation where a Hispanic looking gentleman was talking to his friend about I-9’s and SS cards and said that people can get more than one SS number. The friend was a wee bit more savvy (not much as from another country) and said that they thought only one SS number could be issued. This was certainly “news” to the friend who thought that SS numbers were infinite.
What I gathered from the conversation is that it was not malicious, but the amount of fraud is SO incredibly pervasive that people just don’t know the law and the misinformation and the people who are profiting in the community from that misinformation is enormous.
You are correct, sir.
were these the dreaded “men in black”?
Yup, we got most of them in California. Sanctuary cities like San Francisco loves them. LA not to far behind.
I don't think so, unless they changed their mode of attire. They looked like they were wearing "Members Only" jackets. I was tempted to ask them if they were the last members, but I recalled that discretion is the better part of valor.
If you are not hiring illegal aliens there should be no problem something has to be done about the illegals.
I left there in 2006.......right before the collapse I saw coming.
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All of this depends on whether or not you support illegal immigration. If you do not, as I do not, then you have to be willing to accept some sort of mechanism to identify illegal aliens. The best way to do this is to require employers to screen employees, after all these folks are here for jobs.
If employers are hiring illegals, and/or failing to keep records, then they can be fined or worse. No different than being required to follow building codes or OHSA regs, IMO.
My employer made me fill out an I-9, required that I show a passport (or other document), made a copy of my passport for their records, and I was good to go. I suspect that the government already has a copy of my passport, so I don’t think that I was at great risk by doing this. If every other employer were doing this, our illegal immigration problem would be solved pronto. It seems that outside the defense industry, enforcement of this requirement may be the exception, not the rule.
Well...not exactly. This is a government revenue enhancement push. They will cite this employer for all kinds of “paperwork violations” regardless of whether a single employee is found to be illegal. The company will probably be fined a hefty amount. The I-9 is one of the most flawed forms ever produced and HR managers nationwide have trouble complying with the regulations. If the government really wants to dig around and fine a company on I-9 compliance they can.
Get something in writing that requests the forms. Be sure you’re giving them to the government. It’s not a bad law at all. It takes away nobody’s freedom, except the illegal alien’s freedom to violate laws!
Cheers!
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