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Dinosaur Soft Tissue Finally Makes News
ICR News ^ | December 2, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 12/02/2009 8:28:11 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Although creation-based organizations have reported for over a decade on the technical scientific journal articles published about soft tissue found inside dinosaur remains, mainstream media outlets have largely been silent on the subject. But a recent segment that aired on CBS’s 60 Minutes finally broke the news to a broader audience. The soft tissue issue may be gaining more traction, and even “may be changing the whole dino ballgame,” according to correspondent Lesley Stahl.[1]

The program is currently viewable online at the CBS website. In a field test demonstration to determine whether a dinosaur fossil was real bone, and not bone replaced by minerals, Stahl touched her tongue to it...

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To: wendy1946
the other slice of bread is the Haldane dilemma

That slice has already been eaten.

81 posted on 12/02/2009 1:52:05 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: RoadGumby

Practice what you preach, grasshopper...


82 posted on 12/02/2009 1:52:51 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: wendy1946

Source please?


83 posted on 12/02/2009 1:54:20 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: antiRepublicrat

What? What? What kind of nonsense is that?

GGG rightly points out that the Darwin types and the AGW types do behave and think in a very real parallel to religious thinking, replacing the earth and/or man as the center of things.

CO2 is NOT, never will be, a ‘pollutant’. It is a part of the atmosphere (as designed) and plays it’s part. If you truly felt it was a ‘sin’ to emit CO2, please do your part to personally reduce it.


84 posted on 12/02/2009 1:55:10 PM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: xcamel

I believe I have. Again, post all the evo articles you wish. chances are, grasshopper, that I will not be there. Your presence (as well as others - EStraw for instance)as a mocker is foul.


85 posted on 12/02/2009 2:04:11 PM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

They just found a mummified hadrosaur and are in the process of going over him with that big MRI machine in LA. That’s not good enough for some reason?


86 posted on 12/02/2009 2:14:47 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: RegulatorCountry
Frozen, weren't they? I don't believe the controversial dinosaur soft tissue was discovered in such a state.

I think most if not all of the mammoths were frozen. But somehow, as far as I know, we've never found a dinosaur in a state like this:

Image

87 posted on 12/02/2009 2:34:46 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: wendy1946

Source Please... (again)


88 posted on 12/02/2009 2:38:33 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: celmak

It was in the actual publication by the actual researchers in Science Magazine...subscription required....and while I can view it at work, I can’t on my iPod. The links at the bottom of the ICR article has the links.

Keywords are “ demineralize” “removal of mineral phase”

From recollection of the full text showing their methods, they dissolved the fossil...or fragments thereof...in a 0.5M EDTA solution for 7 days to remove the Inorganic mineral content.....leaving soft and pliable soft-tissue structures. The process of using EDTA to demineralize biominerals has been around for 30 years or so.


89 posted on 12/02/2009 2:40:03 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: RoadGumby

Just keep doing your part for FringeRepublic.

And remember... if you can’t stand the heat...


90 posted on 12/02/2009 2:40:39 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: RoadGumby
GGG rightly points out that the Darwin types and the AGW types do behave and think in a very real parallel to religious thinking, replacing the earth and/or man as the center of things.

Except when you find that most scientists aren't atheists or Earth worshippers. Many evolutionists believe they are simply discovering God's wonders. The misquoted evolutionary scientist who was referenced on this board over the "mummified dinosaur skin" is a devout Christian who was pretty disappointed at what fellow Christians were saying about her discovery.

If you truly felt it was a ‘sin’ to emit CO2, please do your part to personally reduce it.

I don't believe in the concept of sin.

91 posted on 12/02/2009 2:45:03 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: wendy1946
They just found a mummified hadrosaur and are in the process of going over him with that big MRI machine in LA. That’s not good enough for some reason?

They found the fossil of a mummified hadrosaur. It's stone. Compare that picture of the mammoth to this photo of the hadrosaur's "skin":

Image

Really not the same thing. Why don't we find dinosaurs that look as preserved and lifelike as that mammoth?

92 posted on 12/02/2009 2:46:02 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: GodGunsGuts; Admin Moderator
This was posted in violations of the IRC's Ethical Use Policy ( http://www.icr.org/home/copyright/ )

"2. You may quote up to 100 words, rephrase or summarize our information for non-commercial, educational use provided you reference our website each time our information is used." This is in excess of 100 words.

This is clearly a debate on church doctrine and not a defense of religious freedom. I also don't see how this posting is not in violation of Jim Robinson's policy. It belongs in the Religion Forum.

93 posted on 12/02/2009 2:48:53 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: B-Chan
"there’s no way that soft tissue could survive for sixty million years"

Without a good embalmer it wouldn't last 60 years, let alone 6,000 years. What ever external forces preserved it beyond its "shelf life" disrupted any decomposition processes so presumptions have no place in the discussion.

94 posted on 12/02/2009 2:53:23 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: stormer

Black clays (AKA adobe) do not smell like H2S, its a sour odor, somewhat like fermentation, but totally anerobic, and disgusdting. The first time I encountered it I thought that we had found somebody’s septic tank.


95 posted on 12/02/2009 3:10:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Natural Law; B-Chan
"Without a good embalmer it wouldn't last 60 years"

Perhaps hot water is a good embalmer. We find mammoth carcases with considerable skin intact often, in deep cuts in soft sandstone, near Antioch and Brentwood, and once in Blackhawk (Danville). Its always the same kind of formation. The skin will be like hard rawhide, crumbly, with sparse dark brown to almost black hair.

96 posted on 12/02/2009 3:20:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Is it on the hard copy? If so, I can get it here at work, could you please give me the year and month of the issue? Thanks for your patience!

;)

97 posted on 12/02/2009 3:33:40 PM PST by celmak
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To: editor-surveyor
"Perhaps hot water is a good embalmer."

The important fact here is that Dinosaur soft tissue was NOT found, fossilized evidence of dinosaur soft tissue was what was found. Referring to it as soft tissue is either an act of ignorance or a deliberate attempt to deceive.

My point was that that any discussions about the viability of soft tissue lasting 6,000 or 60 million years is equally preposterous unless preserved by some extraordinary conditions or processes like anaerobic encapsulation or freezing.

98 posted on 12/02/2009 3:38:45 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

It is you that are deceiving.

It clearly was soft tissue. All you ever do is post twisted versions of the facts. If you don’t like it, find another thread.


99 posted on 12/02/2009 3:49:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Can you believe this guy?!

Here is Jim Robinson’s policy:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2398497/posts?page=1#1

Here is Mr. Hall Monitor’s response:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2398497/posts?page=93#93


100 posted on 12/02/2009 4:01:47 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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