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Official Request byCongressmen to See Obama's Birth Certificate-Straw Which Breaks This Camel's Back ^

Posted on 12/04/2009 4:47:27 PM PST by cycle of discernment


Political analysis by John Charlton

Obama's presidential campaign was hailed for its forceful imagery, but after 11 months the public has come to understand the undisputed facts about him, don't fit the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

(Dec. 4, 2009) — Georgia’s representative in the U.S. House, Nathan Deal announced in early November that he and 10 House colleagues were going to sign a joint letter, asking Obama to publicly reveal his birth certificate,.

The simple enough question was rebuffed and ridiculed by the Main Stream Media, and even the Savannah Morning News, as if a birth certificate was some sort of private journal or diary of past affairs.

The mere fact that the liberals and progressives ridiculed Nathan Deal — whose only interest is to quiet the nation — shows that they have no substantive reason to oppose the request. It further shows that they know that Obama cannot oblige Deal and his co-signatories, for in Democratic circles nothing is a secret.

What will Obama say to Nathan Deal? The answer must come soon. Deal said that he was to send his letter after Thanksgiving. Any delay on the part of Barack Hussein Obama to oblige Deal, will only further erode his political influence in Washington, D.C..

Obama has been effectively checkmated by the concerted effort of public support, publicized lawsuits on the eligibility question, publicity campaigns such as those of World Net Daily and Charles Kerchner to put the issue in the face of liberals on a constant basis, and blogs and bloggers the world over.

If Obama obliges him, then the online image of a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) provided by his campaign will be proven a forgery, according to the consensus of opinion of citizens who have studied the images posted on the net and found some images of the allegedly same document, contain a HI State seal and some do not.

If Obama does refuses, however, it will only further confirm that he has something to hide.

Palins remark that it is a valid issue and Ogden’s resignation as Deputy U.S. Attorney General in the same week, following the sending of Nathan Deal’s letter, appear to be diagnostic signs that the political establishment understands the risks and imminent crisis about to break. The publicity garnered by the testimony of the U.S. Marine, who goes by the nik, Race Bannon, only further tilt the Obama regime towards political implosion.

Even the pulse of Obama’s political support on the net tells the tale: a lull and quiet among them posting comments at opposition blogs is noticeable. There remain only the violent, the perverse and the somewhat mad to carry on the cheers of “Change,” which were the mind numbing drum beat of the Obama for American campaign, just 14 months ago.

The political momentum of the nation now follows diverse roads to the same destination, and the resulting fireworks are going to be much brighter and invigorating than those of any Fourth of July in many a year!

TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; article2section1; bho44; birthcertficate; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; deal; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; nathandeal; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamacrimes; obamafamily; obamatruth; obamatruthfile; passport; usurper
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To: penelopesire; Red Steel

I don’t see confirmation that Deal’s actually sent a letter. And there’s the linking of things that seem totally unrelated ... Palin, Ogden ??. Maybe I missed something.

81 posted on 12/04/2009 6:04:37 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Wondering whether or not Obama can or will try to use executive privilege to avoid submitting proper documentation is not trolling. Neither is pondering the implications of Cheney’s failure to ask for objections at the electoral vote certification.

Democrats are losing patience with Obama as well.

82 posted on 12/04/2009 6:07:37 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
We do know his father was Kenyan and British and I personally would like a Supreme Court clarification of that issue.

I want that too.

83 posted on 12/04/2009 6:10:19 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Red Steel
Then what?

Then it will be up to the birthers to prove that the witness committed fraud, which they won't be able to do.

But it won't come to that. At most, Obama will simply let the Congressman examine physical copy of the same COLB document that was photographed on Factcheck, and the Congressman will say he is satisfied.

In the very unlikely event the Congressman says he wants to see the long form, Obama will simply say the COLB is sufficient to prove his place of birth in any court of law (which it is), and that will be the end of it.

84 posted on 12/04/2009 6:11:41 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Gator113
“Never lie, but if you do.... never stop.” Obama will follow this rule, in that he will never stop. I don’t care how much heat is turned up over this BC stuff, he will stay silent or simply shine it on.

Bill Clinton's deny, deny, deny.

But,someone always slips up!

85 posted on 12/04/2009 6:12:50 PM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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Me either..not on his website anyway. The Post and Email is a citizen journalist type site(which I support in theory) but we should wait for some confirmation from other sources before we get too excited.

86 posted on 12/04/2009 6:13:17 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Canedawg
They have played a shell game with the real BC

Not really. The computer printout that was posted on the internet is an offical certification by the state of Hawaii the facts contained on the form, including the fact that he was born in Honolulu.

That's good enough in any court of law to prove the place of birth.

So no, it's not the original birth certificate, but that's irrelevant.

87 posted on 12/04/2009 6:15:35 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Canedawg
If he produces it now and it is kosher, he'll look like a turd for concealing it all this time.

Not even close to correct. If it is kosher, it will make all those who have been yelling so loudly about it look like fools -- and the MSM will willingly help that perception along.

Otherwise.... well, that would be an interesting conundrum.

88 posted on 12/04/2009 6:16:33 PM PST by r9etb
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I was thinking of Senator Grassley’s requests for documentation from the WH regarding Walpin’s firing. Was the WH not obligated to respond on some level?

If I recall correctly, those requests were formally issued by the Senate Finance Committee as part of an official investigation. And, even there, I don't think the WH "fully cooperated" (or even barely cooperated). Unless a Congressional Committee issues a formal subpoena, the WH is not obligated to respond. And, when a committee does issue a formal subpoena, the WH (all WH - of any administration) frequently cites to executive privilege - but that's because the Congressional Committee is seeking information about Executive Branch deliberations/actions.

In contrast, here, as reported, a bunch of Reps are getting together - without the auspice of any official committee with subpoena power - to "ask" Obama to provide information about something that occurred long before he became president. So - it's not an official request. If such a request were to come from a Congressional Committee with subpoena powers, however, he could not (imho) claim Executive Privilege because the information the committee would be seeking has nothing whatsoever to do with his actions as President. Executive Privilege applies only to deliberations by the Executive Branch.

Does that make sense?
89 posted on 12/04/2009 6:17:08 PM PST by Sibre Fan
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To: OafOfOffice

Obama already has slipped up, but most of those in power have looked the other way. Although, I do appreciate what you said.

90 posted on 12/04/2009 6:18:03 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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Yeah, I don’t know if he has sent the letter. ...A few things more seem to be in play.’s website is down from hackers, and Post & Email have also come under Internet attack. is being censored by Google. Reports that The Washington Times is being attacked by the White House.

91 posted on 12/04/2009 6:18:52 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: curiosity

An image of a possibly forged document posted on the internet by an accused’s friends suffices as evidence?

I hope you never sit on a jury.


92 posted on 12/04/2009 6:20:16 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 317 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: curiosity

No it certainly is not irrelevant. The computer printout wasnt even requested by him until 2002. I want to see the one that was prepared in the regular course of business at or near the time of the event. That is extremely relevant to this matter.

93 posted on 12/04/2009 6:20:48 PM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: BluH2o
"The Obama’s are planning to spend the Xmas holidays in Hawaii.

Really? Hawaii again?
I wonder if we'll be entertained with another Hawaiian black out just like last time.

As to the BC, it doesn't matter anymore. Too much time has gone by. It's too obvious he's a usurper.

I still would be curious to see the document when he legally changed his name from Soetoro to obama.

94 posted on 12/04/2009 6:21:45 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: BuckeyeTexan
There were no questions surrounding the president’s qualifications in 2005. So I wouldn’t expect anything different. I don’t know why, but I was under the impression that the written objections could only be submitted if and when Cheney asked for objections. Is there a process beforehand to submit objections?

I don't know if there's an official process for that, but I know that in 2000, not just Congress -- but anyone watching the news in the days leading up to the count -- knew that, in the Senate, a formal objection either had or would be filed, so there was no surprise when it was announced on the floor.

I'm fairly certain that the statute says only that written objections must be filed -- it does not say when they must be filed. But, at a minimum, there is precedent for prior notice of written objections - from 2000.
95 posted on 12/04/2009 6:22:03 PM PST by Sibre Fan
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To: cycle of discernment


96 posted on 12/04/2009 6:23:05 PM PST by WhirlwindAttack (I'm ready to tie balloons to my house to get away from 0bama.)
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To: r9etb

He will look like a turd whether you think so or not; he’ll be viewed as a total asshole for wasting valuable court resources in concealing his identity.

He’s definitely a jerk for not coming clean on this in a timely manner.

97 posted on 12/04/2009 6:23:23 PM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: El Sordo
What if he has Hawaii send him a copy and it's the same thing that was shown on the Interwebs? Then what?

Then he would have released it and got this over with by now. Every day he deceives and uses DOJ to defend his lies he becomes more criminal.

He could have had Hawaii records release a copy of the short form if it was just like the one on the web.

98 posted on 12/04/2009 6:24:00 PM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Get over your pathetic grudge already. It’s tiresome and childish.

Obama is not here to read your comment to him.

99 posted on 12/04/2009 6:26:09 PM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Canedawg
Nope, not this time. If there's nothing of interest about his BC, the only effect will be to make the people who shouted so loudly about it, look silly.

There are plenty of things the Obama has done and is doing that make him look very bad, indeed. The BC thing can't match that ... unless it's open to question. In that case, I believe we'd have a rather interesting Constitutional crisis on our hands.

100 posted on 12/04/2009 6:30:25 PM PST by r9etb
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