Posted on 12/15/2009 8:35:30 PM PST by Steelfish
Burial Cloth Found In Jerusalem Cave Casts Doubt On Authenticity of Turin Shroud
By MATTHEW KALMAN 16th December 2009
Archaeologists have discovered the first known burial shroud in Jerusalem from the time of Christ's crucifixion - and say it casts serious doubt on the claimed authenticity of the Turin Shroud.
Ancient shrouds from the period have been found before in the Holy Land, but never in Jerusalem. Researchers say the weave and design of the shroud discovered in a burial cave near Jerusalem's Old City are completely different to the Turin Shroud.
Discovery: The shrouded body of a man was found in this sealed chamber of a cave in the Hinnom Valley, overlooking the Old City of Jerusalem Radiocarbon tests and artefacts found in the cave prove almost beyond doubt that it was from the same time of Christ's death.
It was made with a simple two-way weave - not the twill weave used on the Turin Shroud, which textile experts say was introduced more than 1,000 years after Christ lived. And instead of being a single sheet like the famous item in Turin, the Jerusalem shroud is made up of several sections, with a separate piece for the head.
Professor Shimon Gibson, the archaeologist who discovered the tomb, said ancient writings and contemporary shrouds from other areas had suggested this design, and the Jerusalem shroud finally provided the physical evidence. The debate over the Turin Shroud will not go away. Last month a Vatican researcher said she had found the words 'Jesus Nazarene' on the shroud, proving it was the linen cloth which was wrapped around Christ's body.
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Uh Huh. Why don’t they tell us all about the image on that shroud they found too.
Just in time for Christmas...
I don’t know if the Shroud of Turin is what people think it is or not, but why would finding a different style of shroud “cast doubt” on the one in Turin? Do we all dress identically today, or all use the same kind of bedding, or drapes, or anything else? Why would we expect those in the first century Roman Empire to all use the same things?
Precisely. Not everyone is buried now, and then if they are, not in the same style/type of casket. Far too many variables insofar as the material used, imho. Joseph of Arimathea (sp?) was a wealthy man, iirc, and could have provided really high-end shroud material as well as the tomb.
Perhaps there was one type of shroud for commoners, and a better quality for nobles. Jesus was buried in a noble’s tomb.
Indeed. Plus the volume of trade across the empire was enormous. Dried fish from the Sea of Tiberias made its way to Rome. Goods made in Britain in the second Century have been found in the Holy Land. Rome owed that to Pompey who savaged the sea pirates and made the seas safe for trade for hundreds of years. Roman highways were superior to any made in Europe until the 18th Century. Roman garrisons made them safe for merchants and travelers.
Ping.
What idiocy.
1. As a weaver . . . I can attest that single weavers can weave any number of different styles. Twill is not that complicated. Sheesh.
2. It is highly likely that a special weave would have ended up as Christ’s cloth.
3. Jerusalem likely had many weavers from many regions with a great variety of styles.
4. Burial cloths and customs were also likely quite varied. And it would only take varying by say only 2-4 different styles to make the assertions of this article grossly foolhardy.
Ping for later
So just like the Climate Debate this is now settled? Sorry, not buying it. The left continuously works itself into a frenzy trying to disprove/discredit Christ and the Resurrection. As far as I am concerned they can ram their discovery right up their....uh, theory.
ping
It doesn’t matter what Jesus was buried in. It matters that the burial cloth was used for only three days, then discarded.
Let’s worship the Savior, not souvenirs.
According to the New Testament, Joseph, in whose tomb he was buried was a member of the Sanhedrin, the Council of 70.
If its true that twill was not used there until 1000 years later then there is a problem for the Turin cloth. Not much different than claiming we have the pants Colombus wore: blue jeans.
Good point. Thanks.
And don’t forget that the tomb belonged to Joseph of Arimanthea. He was wealthy and since he was donating his tomb to bury Christ, it makes sense he would also donate the linens prepared for himself. They were probably of finer stuff than the typical burial shroud.
Some people really, REALLY don’t want the Shroud to be genuine.
Agreed.
People have no idea just how sophisticated weaving and dying were thousands of years ago. Its the same with plaid , with the Brits saying that it didn’t exist prior to 1500 , when 4000 year old Celtic mummies in Urumchi, China were recently found wearing twill and plaid.
Twill was woven widely 4000 years ago. Thats a fact.
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