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What Happened to the Hominids Who May Have Been Smarter Than Us?
discovermagazine.com ^ | December 28, 2009 | Gary Lynch and Richard Granger

Posted on 01/05/2010 12:54:26 AM PST by Bobalu

Two neuroscientists say that a now-extinct race of humans had big eyes, child-like faces, and an average intelligence of around 150, making them geniuses among Homo sapiens.

The history of evolutionary studies has been dogged by the intuitively attractive, almost irresistible idea that the whole great process leads to greater complexity, to animals that are more advanced than their predecessors. The pre-Darwin theories of evolution were built around this idea; in fact, Darwin’s (and Wallace’s) great and radical contribution was to throw out the notion of “progress” and replace it with selection from among a set of random variations. But people do not easily escape from the idea of progress. We’re drawn to the idea that we are the end point, the pinnacle not only of the hominids but of all animal life.

Boskops argue otherwise. They say that humans with big brains, and perhaps great intelligence, occupied a substantial piece of southern Africa in the not very distant past, and that they eventually gave way to smaller-brained, possibly less advanced Homo sapiens—that is, ourselves.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boskop; creation; darwinism; evolution; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; hominids
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1 posted on 01/05/2010 12:54:30 AM PST by Bobalu
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To: Bobalu

Too bad these brilliant monkeys did not see fit to record their thoughts for posterity. Nor, apparently, were they bright enough to transcend their environment the way man did.


2 posted on 01/05/2010 12:56:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Bobalu

3 posted on 01/05/2010 12:57:10 AM PST by stormer
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To: Bobalu
Reminds me of the SNL skit with Steve Martin where he, as a caveman, discovers fire.

A cavewoman admires his accomplishment and takes a liking to him. A second caveman looks on enviously, hits Steve Martin on the head with a rock, killing him, and gains the attention of the cavewoman.

The use of fire must wait a little longer.

4 posted on 01/05/2010 12:59:11 AM PST by GeorgeSaden
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To: Bobalu

Okay we’ve got two neuroscientists concurring, got the peer review issue solved.


5 posted on 01/05/2010 1:02:04 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Too bad these brilliant monkeys did not see fit to record their thoughts for posterity. Nor, apparently, were they bright enough to transcend their environment the way man did.

Well we don't know that. The native Americans of North America had no written language, yet they were intelligent enough to live in organized societies.

6 posted on 01/05/2010 1:02:19 AM PST by GeorgeSaden
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To: Bobalu

These “people” obviously moved to another plane, like the Anasazi indians.


7 posted on 01/05/2010 1:03:44 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Bobalu
What Happened to the Hominids Who May Have Been Smarter Than Us?

"Mmmmm ... tastes like chicken!"

8 posted on 01/05/2010 1:13:11 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Bobalu

LOL that’s funny!


9 posted on 01/05/2010 1:19:18 AM PST by exnavy (God save the republic)
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To: Bobalu
Two neuroscientists say that a now-extinct race of humans had big eyes, child-like faces, and an average intelligence of around 150

Someone is going to suggest it sooner or later:
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10 posted on 01/05/2010 1:20:35 AM PST by mkjessup (If you admire, support and make excuses for RINOs (like George W Bush) that makes YOU a RINO!)
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To: stormer

Looks like my ex-fiancee’s family


11 posted on 01/05/2010 1:25:08 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: Bobalu

Oh man... these were space aliens... don’t these scientists know anything!?

LLS


12 posted on 01/05/2010 1:37:04 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: GeorgeSaden; HiTech RedNeck

Your reply to HiTech RedNeck sounds like apples to oranges to me.


13 posted on 01/05/2010 1:39:41 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: Bobalu

What happened to them?

Simple;

They voted for a prehistoric version of ‘Hope And Change’.


14 posted on 01/05/2010 1:50:59 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Bobalu

Big eyes, Bigger brains, doesn’t mean more intelligent.
The fact that they left no cioviliztion remnants save their own bones is a testimony to a sportive evolutionary line, but nothing more.

Amazing how scientists jump to weird conclusions about intelligence. That cannot be measured by physical characteristic alone. Intelligence can only be measured by performance. Are there any artifacts which testify to that alleged higher untelligence, a lap top, flashlight, batteries, radios?(sarc.)


15 posted on 01/05/2010 2:02:25 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: stormer

Hmmm, which one is Ballmer?


16 posted on 01/05/2010 2:18:04 AM PST by rfp1234 (R.I.P. Scotty 7/2007-11/2009.)
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To: Bobalu

“They died and we lived, and we can’t answer the question why.”
Cuz we were smarter and better able to adapt.


17 posted on 01/05/2010 2:38:42 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

If they were smarter, they would care more for the environment — as smart people do. They would also realize that man is an enemy of the earth. So they killed themselves.


18 posted on 01/05/2010 3:08:36 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: Loud Mime

LOL.


19 posted on 01/05/2010 3:11:52 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Bellflower

ping


20 posted on 01/05/2010 3:15:09 AM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Bobalu
They say that humans with big brains, and perhaps great intelligence ...

Why do scientists insist on speculating when they have no evidence to do so? Sure you can conclude from physical evidence that these creatures' brains must have been large but you cannot speculate as to their intelligence. I could write the same thing and say they were "perhaps incredibly stupid" based on the same "reasoning."

21 posted on 01/05/2010 3:39:43 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Bobalu

“Boskops argue otherwise. They say that humans with big brains, and perhaps great intelligence, occupied a substantial piece of southern Africa in the not very distant past, and that they eventually gave way to smaller-brained, possibly less advanced Homo sapiens—that is, ourselves.”

They probably became liberals that were to smart for their britches, and they gave the vote to all the dummies (us) and they were taxed and worked to extinction! ;-)


22 posted on 01/05/2010 3:43:11 AM PST by Dem Guard
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To: Bobalu
What happened??

The big brains developed the concept of "pacifism", which turned out not to be a survival trait.

23 posted on 01/05/2010 3:45:44 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Bobalu
What Happened to the Hominids Who May Have Been Smarter Than Us?

They went to work for the MSM.
24 posted on 01/05/2010 3:48:49 AM PST by ComputerGuy (People who think they know everything annoy those of use who do)
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To: stormer

Is that Bill Gates? Front row, left?


25 posted on 01/05/2010 4:04:14 AM PST by SnarlinCubBear (Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: Bobalu
What Happened to the Hominids Who May Have Been Smarter Than Us?

They only thought they were smarter than us. They inevitably became leftists. They attempted to make "peace" with their predators and now their species is extinct.

26 posted on 01/05/2010 4:14:03 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: pnh102

These idiots are “profiling” the intelligence of the monkeys based on their apperance. There is just no way they can know they had an average IQ of 150 based on appearance.

The same people that believe in this junk science are the same ones that believe in global warming, probably decendants of the monkeys the article is about. Demoncraps that think with their emotions instead of logic.


27 posted on 01/05/2010 4:34:05 AM PST by redfreedom (Just a simpleton enjoying the freedoms a fly-over/red state has to offer.)
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To: Bobalu

Where did they go?

As extreme intellectuals, they found the joy of being gay and as they all became gay their efforts to reproduce failed due to an error in calculating (intellectuals do that) the placement of their reproductive tools.

Due to this error, the species failed to exist.


28 posted on 01/05/2010 4:46:35 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Bobalu

A very large brain means that a mother has a higher chance of fatality delivering a child with such a large head. The other option is to deliver a less developed child who will be weaker, sicklier and dependent for much longer. Neither is very desirable option.


29 posted on 01/05/2010 4:48:56 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Bobalu
Instead of "Are you smarter than a 5th grader, it should be Are you smarter than a chimpanzee?
30 posted on 01/05/2010 5:00:48 AM PST by SC DOC
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To: Bobalu

Interestingly, the debunker of the Boskop man - one John Hawks, just happens to be from Madison, Wi - bastion of liberalism wherein it its well known that liberals have the biggest brains ever, which is why they now run Europe, Britan and the US. There is no way that any previous human species could have bigger brains and be more intelligent than any present day liberal!

As Hawks says about Boskop:
“Extrapolated straight from worlds that never happened!”


31 posted on 01/05/2010 5:02:54 AM PST by PIF
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To: stormer

That is SO bad. I can’t stop chuckling.


32 posted on 01/05/2010 5:07:10 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: LegendHasIt

I had a similar thought.

Liberal democrats feared them, banned them from speaking, then stoned them to death.


33 posted on 01/05/2010 5:09:13 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Bobalu
Boskops argue otherwise. They say that humans with big brains, and

perhaps

great intelligence,

Another ASSuption made by the self-described intellectual elite among us. I wonder how long it will be before that makes its way into public high school science textbooks.

34 posted on 01/05/2010 5:29:53 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Bobalu

35 posted on 01/05/2010 5:35:27 AM PST by scoobysnak71 (Just a national security threat, trying to get a nut.)
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To: GeorgeSaden
"....yet they were intelligent enough to live in organized societies.

So do bees and Ants.

36 posted on 01/05/2010 5:39:34 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: scoobysnak71

37 posted on 01/05/2010 5:41:00 AM PST by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Bobalu

Could that be the next step in Doogies evolution?


38 posted on 01/05/2010 5:42:50 AM PST by scoobysnak71 (Just a national security threat, trying to get a nut.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Really? Lucky for you, that’s Bill gates down in the lower left corner of the pic.


39 posted on 01/05/2010 6:11:40 AM PST by valkyry1
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To: GeorgeSaden
Reminds me of the SNL skit with Steve Martin where he, as a caveman, discovers fire.

A cavewoman admires his accomplishment and takes a liking to him. A second caveman looks on enviously, hits Steve Martin on the head with a rock, killing him, and gains the attention of the cavewoman.

Rock wielder Bill Murray: "I am strong. And, now I am smart."

40 posted on 01/05/2010 7:16:04 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Bobalu
"Two neuroscientists say that a now-extinct race of humans had big eyes, child-like faces, and an average intelligence of around 150, making them geniuses among Homo sapiens. "

Some Neanderthals had bigger brains than we do, and so do elephants and whales. So sure, size matters, but size is not everything.

When humans and Neanderthals first came in contact, their tools etc. were roughly the same. But then slowly something happened. Human tools became more complex, sophisticated -- hi-tech if you will. Neanderthals' did not. And Neanderthals never conceived of cave paintings or sculptures. Why? Was it just IQ? Or was it something else?

We don't really know. I suspect culture had something to do with it.

41 posted on 01/05/2010 7:54:20 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Bobalu

Our ancestors ate them.


42 posted on 01/05/2010 8:23:41 AM PST by mnehring
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To: sonofstrangelove
You should have gotten married.
43 posted on 01/05/2010 8:56:53 AM PST by stormer
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To: rfp1234

Not in this picture.


44 posted on 01/05/2010 8:57:46 AM PST by stormer
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To: SnarlinCubBear

It is. And Paul Allen center rear.


45 posted on 01/05/2010 8:59:07 AM PST by stormer
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To: Lee'sGhost

46 posted on 01/05/2010 9:01:31 AM PST by stormer
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To: The Duke

More like pork, actually.


47 posted on 01/05/2010 10:48:44 AM PST by darth
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To: GeorgeSaden

Amerinds invented wampum and other symbolic means of memorializing important transactions and events.


48 posted on 01/05/2010 12:02:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Quix

You might like this thread.


49 posted on 01/05/2010 12:08:54 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: stormer

Was this the founding cadre of Microsoft?


50 posted on 01/05/2010 12:14:15 PM PST by mdmathis6
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