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Jury Finds Man Guilty of Murder in Kansas Abortion Providerís Death ^ | 1/29/10

Posted on 01/29/2010 9:49:10 AM PST by FutureRocketMan

WICHITA, Kan. — A man who said he killed prominent Kansas abortion provider Dr. George Tiller in order to save the lives of unborn children was convicted Friday of murder.

The jury deliberated for just 37 minutes before finding Scott Roeder, 51, of Kansas City, Mo., guilty of premeditated, first-degree murder in the May 31 shooting death.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; courts; notoktokillkillers; oktokillbabies; roeder; scottroeder; tiller
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To: OCCASparky

And that’s why it wasn’t a fair trial.

41 posted on 01/29/2010 10:29:27 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Ronbo1948
If I had been on that jury, I’d voted Roeder “not guilty” because he stopped an arrogant mass murderer dead in his tracks.

Tell us how your reasoning would apply in this ongoing case:

"The two women, Patricia Imani and Brianna Herrera, admit that they lay in the offramp from Interstate 5 in an effort to block the Strykers.

Both women said they should be found not guilty because they had to protest and although it was illegal, it prevented a greater harm.

“We have an obligation to resist, not just a right to resist. That is what these protests have been about since we started to do the human blockades against the Strykers,” Imani said."

How are you different than these two women? I can't see anny difference.

42 posted on 01/29/2010 10:34:52 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer)
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To: OCCASparky

“Reinhard Tristan Eugen Heydrich (7 March 1904 – 4 June 1942) was a high German Nazi official. He was SS-Obergruppenführer (General) and General der Polizei, chief of the Reich Main Security Office (including the Gestapo, SD and Kripo Nazi police agencies) and Stellvertretender Reichsprotektor (Deputy Reich-Protector) of Bohemia and Moravia. When the Nazis moved the headquarters of Interpol to Berlin in 1942, he was appointed and served as President of that international law enforcement agency. Heydrich chaired the 1942 Wannsee Conference, which discussed plans for the deportation and extermination of all Jews in German-occupied territory. He was attacked by Czech agents on 27 May 1942 sent to assassinate him in Prague. He died slightly over a week later from complications arising from his injuries.”

I say the “good” abortionist was in the Heydrich league. He will not be missed. Justice has been served. I look forward to the day when the other abortionist monsters are tried by judge and jury.

43 posted on 01/29/2010 10:41:05 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: Cicero
I think perhaps his lawyer failed in the jury selection process.

That is not relevant to the failure of justice in this case; a different jury would have been equally unable to give him the death penalty under Kansas' soft-on-crime regime.

44 posted on 01/29/2010 10:43:07 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: Let's Roll
If a murderer was roaming the streets, systematically killing hundreds of innocent victims and that murderer was clearly identified, the killing of that murderer would be morally justified.

I know what the law says but the law does not recognize what the abortion doctor was doing was clearly and scientifically proven to be the murder of helpless innocents.

The law allowing abortion of these innocents is an inhuman atrocity of monumental proportions.

There have been laws throughout history that are not moral. The Nuremberg Nazi trials were all about holding people accountable for inhuman atrocities that can never be morally justified by claiming the atrocities were legal under governmental laws and required by the orders of leaders.

We humans MUST prevent atrocities and murders that violate fundamental moral law.

We are a morally bankrupt society to allow the murder of innocents.

45 posted on 01/29/2010 10:45:41 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (Tyranny - are we there yet?)
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To: FutureRocketMan

May 31 was a happy day for many many children.

46 posted on 01/29/2010 10:45:49 AM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: FutureRocketMan
The doctor was murdered in a church on Sunday. No abortions were taking place or scheduled to take place in the church on Sunday.

If the object was to prevent abortions on Monday, taking a baseball bat and breaking the doctor's hands would have prevented abortions in the immediate future and, depending on the injuries inflicted, may have prevented the doctor from ever performing an abortion again, without killing the doctor.

Fry ‘em.

47 posted on 01/29/2010 10:49:06 AM PST by Cheburashka (It's a _happy_ Russian novel. Everybody still dies, but everybody dies happy.)
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To: Mr. K; POWERSBOOTHEFAN; mlizzy; DryFly
RE :”It’s not the approach I would take, but if you saw a man with an ax in a baby nursery, would you kill him to stop him from chopping up babies? I sure would.

Premeditated killing him like this guy did would be making myself: judge, jury and executioner. Furthermore, the term ‘murder’ used so freely to justify murder is a legal technical term. What if Code-Pink or ANSWER started killing US soldiers because they are convinced that innocent Iraqi's were being murdered by americans(as some elected democrats irresponsibly claimed on TV) ??? They could claim the same bogus defense.

Is pro-life just a PR term? How does this look?

He should have tried temporary insanity or insanity.

48 posted on 01/29/2010 10:49:47 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: mlizzy
Abortion comes from the devil.

Now this is more truth than the American people can stand.

49 posted on 01/29/2010 10:51:31 AM PST by Theodore R. (...)
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To: Ronbo1948

And the fact that you and your ilk “rejoice” in Tiller’s death tells more about you than you’re willing to admit, and it’s not a pretty picture. Tiller was a vile human being, but make no mistake—he was performing a LEGAL procedure, and the fact that you celebrate someone who went outside the law and murdered him in a house of God tells me your motives are not God’s motives. Deal with that little tidbit. You have done the pro-life movement no favors.

50 posted on 01/29/2010 10:52:08 AM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: FutureRocketMan
I am Pro (innocent) Life. This guy knew what he was doing and will pay the consequences both here and hereafter.

That said, that doesn't change the FACT that many babies will not be butchered because this EVIL man (Tiller the baby killer) was sent directly to hell.

Ask yourself, what kind of church allows a practicing murderer in their congregation? Kill babies all week and then attend church on Sunday. HUH? Then back to work on Monday. I wonder if, while actually performing the murders, he reflected on the pastors message on Sunday.

Did he think he was becoming more like Jesus as he pulled off the arms and legs of little babies? Did he PRAY before he committed these heinous acts? (He might have).

A bullet to his brain was a far too compassionate execution. He should have had his arms & legs pulled off before his brain was sucked out and skull crushed. Closer to an eye for an eye.

Myself, I am not willing to pay the price for killing anyone. I would not encourage or promote the killing of abortionists, BUT I will not mourn their deaths. The TRUTH that many will live because of his death makes me think of the countless number of lives that would have been saved if the event of his murder had taken place earlier. Just logic.

As for his family? Like they didn't know what he did for a living? That they didn't know that the very food on their table was soaked in the blood of human sacrifices? What kind of people can do this (abortions)? Sanction this? Financially or politically support this?

If you are pro “choice”,
Repent, ask His forgiveness, and sin no more.

51 posted on 01/29/2010 10:52:32 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Dont be so sure about that. There are meetings going on today in the Kansas Legislature I understand that may change that law over this.

52 posted on 01/29/2010 10:52:44 AM PST by Concho
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To: Balding_Eagle

I’m not an anarchist. The women who blocked the military vehicles were rightly arrested and tried. Mr Roeder was rightly arrested and tried, and to his credit, “manned up” and took responsibility for his actions and explained why to the jury.

In Ayn Rand’s book, “The Fountainhead” Howard Roark blows up an entire city block of a public housing project, because his design was changed by the bureaucrats in charge after breaking their word that Roark’s plans would not be changed.

So if something goes against your conscience and you exhaust all avenues of redress and decide to take the law into your own hands, then you should “man up” and take the punishment, which in this case Mr. Roeder has done like a Randian hero.

53 posted on 01/29/2010 10:53:25 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: whatisthetruth

Haven’t served on a jury lately, have ya?

54 posted on 01/29/2010 10:53:47 AM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: DogBarkTree

I think KS is one of the twelve states which has no capital punishment. Also WV

55 posted on 01/29/2010 10:54:01 AM PST by Theodore R. (...)
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To: whatisthetruth

It wasn’t a fair trial because people whose minds were already made up (one way or the other) prior to seeing any evidence were excluded? You have an unusual sense of fairness vis a vis jury slection.

56 posted on 01/29/2010 10:54:27 AM PST by dmz
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To: Knitebane
It didn't seem to harm Lon Horiuchi.

IIRC, he was charged. And IIRC further, Dr. Tiller was not armed.
57 posted on 01/29/2010 10:55:48 AM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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Well, church is a general term used for a place of congregating for the sake of “religion”. That building is not a “church” of the “Christian” variety.... What is being espoused in that particular place is no more the gospel of Christ, than cotton balls are building materials for skyscrapers. Tiller was not flying below the radar there; who and what he was was known and accepted. Stuff happens.
58 posted on 01/29/2010 10:55:58 AM PST by TheGunny
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To: OCCASparky

Legal doesn’t equal moral. It was “legal” in this country to keep human beings in bondage, too.

59 posted on 01/29/2010 10:57:39 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t go with the terms prolife or prochoice. I believe in calling it pro-abortion and anti-abortion.

That said, while I will not weep for the dead doctor, the proper verdict was given.

60 posted on 01/29/2010 10:58:15 AM PST by beandog
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