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Disappointed With Sarah, Again
Vanity | 2/4/09

Posted on 02/04/2010 9:35:43 AM PST by dangus

Sarah endorses INCREASING immigration with Glenn Beck:

PALIN: Let me address legal immigration and we need to continue to be so welcoming and inviting of those who are represented there by our Statue of Liberty. The immigrants, of course, built this country. And I think republicans, conservatives are at fault when we allow the other side to capture this immigration issue and try to turn this issue into something negative for republicans. I think we need to recognize that again, immigrants built this great country. There are rules to follow if you want to be a part of this great country. Let's make sure people are following the rules. But let's welcome this.

BECK: Do you agree with me make the door wider and make it easier to bring people in, you know, Bill Gates said, I have a hard time keeping people here because it's so complex. Make, just streamline it and make it easier for people to come in the right way.

PALIN: Every part of bureaucracy needs to be streamlined, absolutely. And people do need to come in the right way. They cannot take advantage of what this country has to offer. The opportunities, the help that is here, they need to do this legally

When Gov. Palin endorsed Sen. John McCain, I was forgiving, because they had been part of a team. But Palin has also endorsed Sen. Lindsey Graham, the man whose hatred for conservatives and grassroots is exceeded in the Republican Party only by Sen. Arlen Specter. Oh, wait...

I'm not saying Gov. Palin is evil, liberal, or statist. But I've been pleading with people to find out what she actually stands for before they stampede to someone based on their personality and/or presence. Maybe she can still be reached, but I'm developing severe concerns we may be on the threshold of lunging headlong to yet another candidate who doesn't represent the conservative viewpoint.

Again, I emphasize she's not necessarily bad, but we should find out exactly how she stands on:



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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dangus; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; mccain; palin; pathtocitizenship; shamnesty
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To: Russ
She believes immigrants must come to this country legally and abide by the laws of the land. I see nothing wrong with that.

No one could disagree with that. But what would Palin do about the ones who DON'T come legally and abide by the laws of the land? Would she arrest and deport them? Would she fine or jail the employers? Would she take away illegals' benefits and goodies so that they will self-deport? AFAIK, she has never stated that she would do anything of the sort, and so she probably wouldn't. Saying "They should come legally" sounds all nice and appeases people on both sides, but it's wishy-washy, fence-straddling politican talk. It means nothing.

41 posted on 02/04/2010 9:54:54 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: dangus

I think Sarah is just naive sometimes.


42 posted on 02/04/2010 9:55:25 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("Though the wrong be often strong, God still rules this earthly throng")
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To: omega4179
SP is a pro life liberal.

Her stances on the Constitution, taxes, RKBA, property Rights, and abortion all pretty much make your statement there a complete and total lie.

Try again...

43 posted on 02/04/2010 9:55:41 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Rational Thought
Which Republican would you consider conservative and/or a viable candidate in 2012?

Which ones have announced they are running? Conservative and Republicans are becoming two separate groups thanks to the OP(formerly the GOP) insisting on kicking conservatism to the curb over the years in order to expand the voter base.
44 posted on 02/04/2010 9:55:56 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: dangus

OK Slick, what part of this do YOU disagree with: PALIN: Every part of bureaucracy needs to be streamlined, absolutely. And people do need to come in the right way. They cannot take advantage of what this country has to offer. The opportunities, the help that is here, they need to do this legally. Have YOU EVER been to an INS office and observed what goes on there. NO WONDER aliens(Legal) say F*CK it and just stay here anyway they can. FIRE MOST OF THESE TURDS and you MAY rid ourselves of alot of these type of “problems”.


45 posted on 02/04/2010 9:56:29 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Dead Corpse
Careful. That kinda talk might have someone hitting the abuse button on you again. ;-)

Hey! I was TOTALLY justified in that...

46 posted on 02/04/2010 9:56:36 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
I agree.

One problems with our legal immigration policy is that too many of them today are not building this country - instead they are tearing it down. Too many are on welfare, forming gangs, raping (such as the Somalis), refusing to learn English, forming terrorist cells, committing honor killings, taking jobs from Americans.

I read somewhere that now there is a proposal to bring in more who are HIV positive. We need stricter criteria as to how are admitted. None of them should get welfare until they are citizens. And no selling or giving citizenship as perks.

47 posted on 02/04/2010 9:57:16 AM PST by Dante3
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To: This Just In

>> If you highlighted the red in Palin’s discussion, you’re taking her words out of context. Palin is quite clear, and draws a distinction between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration. <<

I took them out of context by publishing them in the exact context they were in. Hmmm... She draws the same distinction that McCain, Graham, Pelosi, Bush, Kennedy and Reid drew. That’s why I’m saying we should find out her position on amnesty, by whatever name McCain, Graham, Pelosi and Reid call it.


48 posted on 02/04/2010 9:57:45 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: Josh Painter

Reading Comprehension LOL


49 posted on 02/04/2010 9:58:12 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: wheninthecourse

“IMO, there should be a 2 -4 year ban on ANY IMMIGRATION INTO THE US, due to our present economic situation. Id like to see a candidate that had the balls to support that.”

That would certainly make sense. If there are people collecting unemployment benefits, they should be directed to any job that they can easily take. Even if it’s picking beans.

I think there should just be a rule that any immigrant must be self-supporting & should not be eligible for any welfare benefits of any kind for any family member. If they can’t make it here on their own, they should go home.


50 posted on 02/04/2010 9:58:53 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Man50D

I would suggest waiting for further clarification before dumping her.

As someone mentioned in a post above, Palin’s honesty is quite rare in a politician and is by itself enough to elevate her above most others.

At this point there’s no evidence to suggest Palin’s immigration policy is anything like that of McCain or Gramnesty.


51 posted on 02/04/2010 9:59:15 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. If what you are doing is worth anything, it should be worth saying out loud.)
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To: Man50D
Thank you for proving my point Palin followers are so blinded they can't see the forest for the trees.

*Needs fixing to reflect a more truthful sentence*

Thank you for proving my point Palin followers haters are so blinded they can't see the forest for the trees.

Fixed.

52 posted on 02/04/2010 10:00:40 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Personally I believe they’re using immigration to further destroy America. When people say “I have no problem with legal immigration”. All the politicians have to do then is change the laws and they’re legal. I think we need a moratorium on immigration, at least until the economy picks up. But what do I know, I’ve only been out of work for 18 months.


53 posted on 02/04/2010 10:00:49 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: Man50D
McAmnesty? Really?
I am all for immigrants coming to this country Legally and willingly. I am against people who come illegally and slyly.

Palin and Beck are for people who want to come to this country through all the proper channels and be contributing and successful citizens.

Amnesty is what government "gives" the illegal aliens who crossed our border in the dead of night.
Probably,unless you are American Indian, your ancestors were immigrants, and I again assume they came here legally.

That is the difference.

54 posted on 02/04/2010 10:00:55 AM PST by lucky american (Glenn Beck Rocks!!! Sarah Palin Too!!!)
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To: Man50D
Thank you for proving my point Palin followers are so blinded they can't see the forest for the trees.

*Needs fixing to reflect a more truthful sentence*

Thank you for proving my point Palin followers haters are so blinded they can't see the forest for the trees.

Fixed.

55 posted on 02/04/2010 10:01:49 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: dangus
Palin is correct in her views/opinions of immigration. Matter of fact, she is correct on all the issues. She errs when she went back on her word to propagate conservative principles by enthusiastically supporting the re-election of John McCain, especially when she damn well knew JD Hayworth would challenge him.
56 posted on 02/04/2010 10:02:06 AM PST by jla
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To: Man50D
I just made it! The fact that she endorses a candidate who supports amnesty for illegal aliens among many other issues also supported by socialists makes the case!

Thank you for proving my point Palin followers are so blinded they can't see the forest for the trees.


You proved nothing.

Out of loyalty she is supporting someone who brought her to the dance, right or wrong.

It says nothing about her own positions EXCEPT in your tortured, illogical mind.

She has very clearly discussed her positions on the issues, many of them diverge from John McCain's positions.

You're painting with a way too broad of a brush and you know it!
57 posted on 02/04/2010 10:02:57 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: dangus

Well it’s definitely worth keeping an eye on. But at this point, I haven’t seen anything indicating she is for legalizing those that are here illegally. Not to say I didn’t miss something.

I would feel better if someone would address ‘deporting’ the illegals and starting from scratch.


58 posted on 02/04/2010 10:03:05 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: Man50D
Put it this way....

We're likely looking at a field of Gingrich, Pawlenty, Romney, Huckabee and Palin.

Whom would be your choice from these or whom would you consider the best conservative choice?

59 posted on 02/04/2010 10:04:23 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: dangus

Yawn. Malcontents like yourself are always disappointed with someone. “We want the perfect person (like myself).”!!!!! Yer an idiot.


60 posted on 02/04/2010 10:04:31 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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