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Navy to Lift Ban on Women Serving Aboard Subs
aol.com ^ | Feb 24, 2010 | Mara Gay

Posted on 02/24/2010 1:04:01 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan

The military isn't asking, it's telling.

In a letter to Congress last week, Defense Secretary Robert Gates notified lawmakers that women will be allowed to serve on submarines for the first time in the Navy's 110-year history, ABC News reported. Congress has 30 days to pass a law to stop or delay the policy, but if it remains silent, women could be aboard Navy submarines in 18 months.

The lifting of the ban removes one of the last glass ceilings for women in the military.

Unless Congress steps in, women could be serving on Navy submarines for the first time in the service's history in about 18 months. Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus told ABC on Tuesday that allowing women to serve on subs is "a great idea and the right thing to do."

Women have been assigned to surface ships for the past 17 years but were kept off subs in fear that the small space would create challenges. For years, the Navy said it was too expensive to refit submarines with separate living quarters so women could serve.

Tracy Moran, a columnist for USA Today, said the Navy should wait to repeal the ban until its ships were ready to accommodate them. "Allowing female officers to serve on the boomers, as the panel recommended, would be a mistake at this point," she wrote. "Instead, let the Navy first develop vessels that can accommodate co-ed crews, and let them develop a career path for women. This may take many years, but doing it correctly will be worth the wait."

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lunacy; militaryreadiness; militarywomen; submarine; usnavy
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To: Nuc1

oh I thought “hot racking” was what I wrote about with the ovens above!


21 posted on 02/24/2010 1:15:47 PM PST by capacommie
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To: Tallguy

Some might get pregnant during the time at sea......soldiers get pregnant all the time in combat zones in the Army. Quick ticket home for mom, no equality for dad.


22 posted on 02/24/2010 1:29:04 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
let the Navy first develop vessels that can accommodate co-ed crews

I read this wrong at first. Me bad. Very bad.

23 posted on 02/24/2010 1:29:11 PM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Politicans are crazy....I sure wouldn’t want to be the only female on a sub for 18 months under the sea’s...but there is probably some idiotic young woman that would love it..totally not necessary..


24 posted on 02/24/2010 1:29:54 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Third question.....Is there room on a sub for a maternity ward?


25 posted on 02/24/2010 1:30:40 PM PST by RC2
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To: Bulldawg Fan

When you allow gay men in the military you’re telling straight men who don’t want the potential of unwanted sexual interest to “just deal with it”. I say men and women share crew quarters and the women just “deal with it”.


26 posted on 02/24/2010 1:30:45 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: Bulldawg Fan

When you allow gay men in the military you’re telling straight men who don’t want the potential of unwanted sexual interest to “just deal with it”. I say men and women share crew quarters and the women just “deal with it”.


27 posted on 02/24/2010 1:30:59 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: SJSAMPLE

The very same. Equal work means equal pay, right? Mmmm, mmmm, mmmmm.


28 posted on 02/24/2010 1:31:42 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: Mr. K

Hey baby, have I got a submarine for you!

Let’s go ply the deep blue sea and see if we can raise some waves.


29 posted on 02/24/2010 1:32:07 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Liberal Massachusetts says: "FUBO!")
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To: Bulldawg Fan
The lifting of the ban removes one of the last glass ceilings for women in the military.

If this was truly about the "glass ceiling" then they would allow all women subs. This is about further perverting the military by throwing more distractions in. God help us.

30 posted on 02/24/2010 1:32:37 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
This will not end well.


31 posted on 02/24/2010 1:35:25 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Nuc1

So today officers get their own bunk? I am guessing it is still in a common area though? On a ship there is plenty of room for separate gender quarters, but on a sub no square inch of space is wasted.


32 posted on 02/24/2010 1:36:16 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Big mistake. When you have a lot of men working together you get a lot of what men do when they are together - breaking each other’s stones. All is good-natured camaraderie and it helps make a stressful situation tolerable.
Add women to the mix, and it’s disaster. VERY FEW of them can take the friendly banter and will whimper and cry and run to their local EEO officer and say “they’re harassing me!”


33 posted on 02/24/2010 1:37:15 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Bulldawg Fan
"Take her down Lieutenant."

"Aye, Aye Sir!".

34 posted on 02/24/2010 1:38:42 PM PST by Iron Munro (God is great, Beer is good, People are crazy)
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To: capacommie
LOL That wasn’t the context of my response. Sorry for the response delay, I got caught in the dreaded Windows update restart loop. How about a gal’s only boat? Then we could op guys against gals. Like cards...or marriage. Did I mention my machine came with Vista?
35 posted on 02/24/2010 1:39:10 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Bulldawg Fan

“”I am furious that i am not allowed to be on Latrine Duty for months at a time, in the enlisted men’s barracks!” It’s discrimination against women in the military!”


36 posted on 02/24/2010 1:41:03 PM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

I have heard of Buiker Chicks pulling the train, These gals may pull the sub.


37 posted on 02/24/2010 1:41:48 PM PST by Venturer
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To: navygal
"Don’t forget, she may not know that she is pregnant. "

But I'll bet she knows if she has done something recently to get her that way.

Maybe a doctor's certification of "non-pregnant" status would be required at boarding.

We can always find a way to make excuses for behavior...anything to break that "glass ceiling", huh?

A lot of us have known there is a difference in men and woman for a long time...it's just that the liberals know so much that isn't true.

I think that mixed company, in such close quarters, is going to be a calamity.

Guys, don't forget, they want to be "equal with the men"; girls, don't forget, you asked for it.

ROTHLMAO

38 posted on 02/24/2010 1:42:27 PM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

This is NOT going to sit well with a lot of the submariners wives. This is not good.


39 posted on 02/24/2010 1:42:54 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: LukeL
So today officers get their own bunk? I am guessing it is still in a common area though?

Officers get little cabins, typically holding three.

Most crewmen get their own bunks.

40 posted on 02/24/2010 1:45:30 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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