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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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On Freedom [Peter Robinson]

From the “Legend of the Grand Inquisitor,” Dostoyevsky’s story-within-a-story in The Brothers Karamazov:

Know then [said the Grand Inquisitor to the figure of Christ, who had mysteriously appeared to him], that now, and only now, Thy people feel fully sure and satisfied of their freedom; and that only since they have themselves and of their own free will delivered that freedom unto our hands by placing it submissively at our feet….

Wouldst Thou go into the world empty-handed? Wouldst Thou venture thither with Thy vague and undefined promise of freedom, which men, dull and unruly as they are by nature, are unable so much as to understand, which they avoid and fear?—for never was there anything more unbearable to the human race than personal freedom…! I repeat to Thee, man has no greater anxiety in life than to find someone to whom he can make over that gift of freedom with which the unfortunate creature is born….

They will have no secrets from us. It will rest with us to permit them to live with their wives and concubines, or to forbid them, to have children or remain childless, either way depending on the degree of their obedience to us; and they will submit most joyfully to us the most agonizing secrets of their souls—all, all will they lay down at our feet, and we will authorize and remit them all in Thy name, and they will believe us and accept our mediation with rapture, as it will deliver them from their greatest anxiety and torture—that of having to decide freely for themselves.

03/22 12:32 AM
http://corner.nationalreview.com/


7,321 posted on 03/21/2010 9:44:26 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Windcatcher
Of COURSE they’re for Socialism — they’re OWED all this stuff, and they get to sleep soundly in the knowledge that they’re making evil “whitey” pay for it.

They will be forever angry because the quality STINKS.

7,322 posted on 03/21/2010 9:44:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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Yo! Obama! unemployment is at 15%!


7,323 posted on 03/21/2010 9:44:53 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: jim35

Given how highly addictive Vicodin is and that you had a kidney infection and the pain was only in the 2 category sounds like they were overkill with that prescription, those class 3 drugs are way over prescribed.


7,324 posted on 03/21/2010 9:45:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Windcatcher
My liberal relatives are OUT of my will. So what does that tell you about how I feel about people who aren’t related?

Don't will one anything then.

Seriously, as with Jews, you never know when you'll come across a politically wise one.

7,325 posted on 03/21/2010 9:46:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: smokingfrog

They all voted NO.


7,326 posted on 03/21/2010 9:46:18 PM PDT by cookiedough
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To: mylife
Hey Obama! Prognosticate this!

I trillion to extend medicare 10 years?

7,327 posted on 03/21/2010 9:47:16 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: Bronzy

FOX has strangely been taken over. Rush Limbaugh and sites like townhall.com are probably the only places you can get the straight dope now (outside of here).


7,328 posted on 03/21/2010 9:48:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Bronzy

“Heard someone on Fox say that we will have to have a national sales tax to pay for all of this.”

Yeah, I know, Everyday they come up with a new spin on how this crap will be paid for. Didn’t they just get through saying that it would be paid for by “cuts in wasteful spending?”


7,329 posted on 03/21/2010 9:48:06 PM PDT by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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Obama yammering about private sector job creation.... Yeesh


7,330 posted on 03/21/2010 9:48:56 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: zzeeman
I agree completely. I don't want to be redundant here, but we ALL need to wake up to the simple fact: Those that are not with us, are indeed against us. I know that it may be hard at times, but we need to make a stand.

Never saw it comming that this would be a domestic policy. "Those that are not with us, are indeed against us." President Bush was more right than he knew at the time.

I can not believe that Geraldo is still on FNC they have given him the entire night.

7,331 posted on 03/21/2010 9:49:10 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: pillut48

I would think the market has already factored in the fear.


7,332 posted on 03/21/2010 9:49:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Who?

I know what you mean though. I belong to other websites, and most of the people there talk about who is going to be voted off The Biggest Loser. They have no clue as to what this all means.

So many liberals I know are probably ecstatic about this monstrosity being passed. Wait till they have to pay through the nose for all this “free health care.”


7,333 posted on 03/21/2010 9:49:36 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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Well that’s it. See yall on the battle lines tomorrow.


7,334 posted on 03/21/2010 9:50:20 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: smokingfrog
Where there one or two republicans that didn’t vote? Do we know who they are yet?

They all voted NO

7,335 posted on 03/21/2010 9:50:45 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: mylife

Good night!


7,336 posted on 03/21/2010 9:50:56 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: All

Via the Corner: http://corner.nationalreview.com/

Jordan working on what’s next re: repeal.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjFiNzg3NWVhYjM1OGVlMzI1ZDJmODZjNTcxZTFkOWE=

On Freedom [Peter Robinson]
From the “Legend of the Grand Inquisitor,” Dostoyevsky’s story-within-a-story in The Brothers Karamazov:

Know then [said the Grand Inquisitor to the figure of Christ, who had mysteriously appeared to him], that now, and only now, Thy people feel fully sure and satisfied of their freedom; and that only since they have themselves and of their own free will delivered that freedom unto our hands by placing it submissively at our feet….

Wouldst Thou go into the world empty-handed? Wouldst Thou venture thither with Thy vague and undefined promise of freedom, which men, dull and unruly as they are by nature, are unable so much as to understand, which they avoid and fear?—for never was there anything more unbearable to the human race than personal freedom…! I repeat to Thee, man has no greater anxiety in life than to find someone to whom he can make over that gift of freedom with which the unfortunate creature is born….

They will have no secrets from us. It will rest with us to permit them to live with their wives and concubines, or to forbid them, to have children or remain childless, either way depending on the degree of their obedience to us; and they will submit most joyfully to us the most agonizing secrets of their souls—all, all will they lay down at our feet, and we will authorize and remit them all in Thy name, and they will believe us and accept our mediation with rapture, as it will deliver them from their greatest anxiety and torture—that of having to decide freely for themselves.

KJ/Corner’s post editorial:

http://article.nationalreview.com/428841/obamacare-isnt-inevitable/the-editors


7,337 posted on 03/21/2010 9:51:38 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Derek Hough is a dancer on the Dancing with the stars.


7,338 posted on 03/21/2010 9:52:10 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I had a couple of heart surgeries over a 2-month period. I was in a lot of pain, and took 2 Vicodin every 4 hours.

I asked my doc what the chances were I would get addicted to it and he said it would take more than a couple of months for that to happen.

I did not become addicted to it.


7,339 posted on 03/21/2010 9:52:29 PM PDT by cookiedough
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To: SE Mom

Try to graft stuff onto Jesus Christ and this is what you get.


7,340 posted on 03/21/2010 9:52:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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