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Obama, fellow Socialists to ram through new amnesty bill soon!
Small Government Times ^ | March 26, 2010 | J. D. Longstreet

Posted on 03/26/2010 10:18:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Rogue tigers, having tasted human blood for the first time, often become “man-eaters.” Man is an easy prey for the ruthless tiger. Now that the democrats in Washington have tasted the political blood of their constituents they have become emboldened to hunt again. This time they intend to use their successful back room, closed door, tactics to ram through the New Amnesty Bill referred to as the Comprehensive Immigration Bill.

(Dictators, the world over, are just SO proud of the Democrats!).

The comparison between the Bolsheviks in 20th century Russia and the Socialist Congress of the US today is striking. Their driving force is their lust for raw power coupled with their completely insane ideology of a utopian society in which everything is free! That is all wonderful – until the money runs out and the nation collapses in on itself, as America is about to do — if she is not rescued and rescued very soon.

Flush from their pyrric victory with ObamaCare they now intend to ram the New Amnesty Bill down our throats before we have a chance to recover and rally our forces to stop them. They don’t care because it matters not to them that we don’t want it. All that matters is that they declare those illegal aliens, already within our borders as citizens, as quickly as they can, so they can vote for democrats. I am surprised they are not already registering them to vote as they take their first steps across the wire and into the US.

I know I’m going to get slammed for this but the plain truth is this: We need a literacy test, a competency test, and proof of citizenship – AT THE VERY LEAST– before one is able to vote in America. Can the would-be voter read? Can the would-be voter even speak English? Is the would-be voter mentally competent? Does he/she even know what day of the week it is?

The democrats are counting on the sub-class of US citizens who are permanent wards of the government to save their collective behinds this coming November at the polls. They are the Americans who depend on the government for their very existence. They vote for democrats because democrats promise them their continued dole every month. The millions of illegal aliens, once granted citizenship, will, for the most part, join the millions in this sub-class and add their votes to the democrat side of the ballot. THAT is the reason for the Comprehensive Immigration Bill… or the New Amnesty Bill.

The ignorance of the average American voter got us the socialist government we have today in America. Already we have seen a humongous decline in America, on all fronts, since the election of 2006 and it only quickened its pace upon the election of a socialist President in 2008.

Recently I wrote the following:

“We have said all along the problem with illegal immigration across our southern border could be fixed, almost immediately, if the government wanted it fixed. Now we know for certain that they do not want the southern border sealed. See, those are democratic voters coming across that invisible line headed north into the land of milk and honey and along side them on their northward trek is cheap labor!

Basically, Americans STILL want the border closed and sealed FIRST! It is common sense to stop the leak before bailing. Once the border is closed and sealed then taking care of those aliens here illegally can begin and mass deportations can begin.

Yes, Americans ARE angry with the illegal alien mess and the numerous attempts by our government to offer them amnesty, which would, in time, offer them citizenship. But, as Rasmussen learned when doing a survey, Americans are not mad at the illegal aliens. No! They/we are mad at our government for allowing this to happen in the first place!

Those of you who support open borders do not, I repeat, do not try to beat us about the head and shoulders with the old saw that says America is a nation of immigrants. See, we already know that because our ancestors were immigrants, too. Mine came into the country, legally, in 1789 through what was then Charles Town Harbor and were assigned a place in the 96th precinct of the state of South Carolina. Notice – they came into this countryLEGALLY! That is all we expect of any who want to immigrate to America. Do it legally and we will welcome you with open arms. Do it illegally and we want you caught and deported forthwith!

It is becoming ever more clear, everyday, that America’s biggest problem with illegal immigration is not with those who illegally break into our country and help to bleed it dry, but with our government which refuses to uphold the laws already on the books. Had those laws been enforced we would not be in the situation we find ourselves today. Plus, the problem of what to do with these 12-plus million illegal aliens would not be a problem, at all, if the government would simply follow the laws on the books today.

The bottom line for Americans to ponder is… what do we do with a government that refuses to uphold/enforce the nation’s laws? Well, let me ask you – suppose you had a business and an employee consistently refused to follow the rules of the workplace. What would you do to that employee? See? The answer is simple. The ONLY way we are ever going to get relief from this problem is to clean the house in Washington.

My friend and fellow blogger, Alan Caruba, recently said in his piece entitled “A Crisis of Governors”: “What, in fact, Americans are witnessing is a failure of government at both the state and federal level. The nation has managed to elect too many people to public office that are so clearly inept, incompetent, and untrustworthy, it poses a threat to the republic.” Alan, as usual, is spot on. America’s most dangerous enemy, at the moment, is its own government! I would add that, in my opinion, America’s second worst enemy, at the moment, is its own ignorance. It was through the ignorance of the American electorate that these pitifully inept politicians were elected to office to begin with.

Until we can come up with a solution to the problem of an unresponsive government we are stuck standing on the sidelines observing the largest land invasion and take-over of a country in the history of the world.” (From “Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Back Soon? You Bet!” by J. D. Longstreet)

By the way, don’t buy the government’s argument that they cannot round up and deport the illegal aliens in our country today. The Eisenhower Administration managed to round up — and deport — 1 million and 3 hundred thousand illegal aliens in what was tagged “Operation Wetback” in 1954! I dare say with the technology we have today we could do a whole lot better… if the government just wanted to do it.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; congress; economy; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; obama
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To: Arthur McGowan

Yeah, and blame the Catholics is really going to help you get a majority in ‘10.

How’s that ‘catholic bashing working out for ya anyways?


41 posted on 03/27/2010 1:23:17 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: Tzimisce

The democrats are counting on the sub-class of US citizens who are permanent wards of the government to save their collective asses this coming November at the polls. They are the Americans who depend on the government for their very existence. They vote for democrats because democrats promise them their continued dole every month. The millions of illegal aliens, once granted citizenship, will, for the most part, join the millions in this sub-class and add their votes to the democrat side of the ballot. THAT is the reason for the Comprehensive Immigration Bill… or the New Amnesty Bill.

The ignorance of the average American voter got us the socialist government we have today in America. Already we have seen a humongous decline in America, on all fronts, since the election of 2006 and it only quickened its pace upon the election of a socialist President in 2008.


42 posted on 03/27/2010 1:52:55 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: BenKenobi

Look at McGowan’s freeper page. RCC priest. One of the very few I’ve seen that grok the local problem.


43 posted on 03/27/2010 2:04:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let them try calling off elections/martial law or whatever.

The whole point of this article is that they won't have to call off the elections or declare martial law! What they will do is pass, using the same methods used to pass healthcare, both an "instant amnesty" law and an "instant voter registration" law.

Combine that with the new census which will tell us how (surprise!) many more "latinos" are here than we thought (which will be reported endlessly by the media, long before the official results are in), to get us used to the idea of how lopsided the 2010 vote will be for Obama and the Dems - when everyone you know is against them.

Even the sister who voted for Obama in 2008. Even the two buddies from the shooting club who thought it was time for change.

So, please consider re-drawing your line in the sand. The communists have long ago figured out that one and are planning around it.

They can, and will, seize the nation without firing a shot, without declaring martial law, and without doing door-to-door searches for guns. If those are the only things that will make you resist in some way other than voting, then there is a very good chance we will lose the Republic.

44 posted on 03/27/2010 2:05:16 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Widespread, Justified American Grassroots Civil Disobedience will be in order if they try this again. I am serious. Now to creatively find out what would be effective to really fix their wagons. Some of it could be bringing their immigration "regularization" bureaucracy to a complete halt so that no illegals could get any newly proposed documents to show they are legalized, because regular Americans would flood the offices nationwide with incessantly repeated / polite non threatening calls, repeated faxes, personal visits to take up staff time, bogus requests for forms over and over again, just torching the forms or throwing them in alleyways (after making them unusuable) and asking for me, etc. etc. to completely shut down whichever federal agency was tasked to officially codify them as having "legal status." With this counter-legalization effort reaching into the MILLIONS of Americans (many of them unemployed with all the time on their hands not to mention angry at the thought of illegals being legalized in order to take US jobs during a recession/depression), the whole Federal system could be brought to a complete standstill....and there would not be a damned thing they could do about it....millions upon millions of illegal persons on our soil would not be "legal" because they would continue to remain "undocumented" in terms of documentation ....and keeping them at bay for six more months until a new Republican Senate/House could get in place in January is all that we would need--just run the clock out on them. We can enjoy at LEAST a Republican Congress until 2014 and certainly a Republican Presidency from 2012 to 2016. Forcing them back to their homelands through attrition (cutting off of social services, etc) would be undergone during this time. The Demos would see lost vote after lost vote getting in cars and vans and busses and heading out of our country for good, thus further denying them the permanent underclass majority vote they are seeking to construct with the twin evils of Obamacare and Legalization of Aliens.

Just thinking aloud here. They can pass any damned law or executive order they want in the Beltway with respect to I.C.E. laws and residency, but if the bureaucracy cannot function to carry it out, there will be minimal to no real effect of the new law. Gandhi would be smiling.

45 posted on 03/27/2010 2:11:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Tea Party 2009-2010 a SMASHING SUCCESS! Massive civil disobedience stopped Obamacare once & for all.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

The illegal aliens survive on jobs that are given them under fake s.s. numbers by employers who look the other way (mostly American employers who know the truth about their cheap labor with no benefits.) This has been going on for decades. As long as the government does not enforce the laws on the books regarding illegal aliens and their employment, nothing will change. The Catholic Church, other than it’s message of caring for strangers (in this case naive of the economic and social impact of undocumented workers who pay little or no taxes yet use a much greater amount of the benefits of society) doesn’t have a great deal of political sway over it’s flock, maybe the less intelligent ones, but then again, the democrats have an impact several times that of the Catholic Church. As for Christian churches positions on illegal aliens, there are several Protestant denominations that speak the same message(United Church of Christ, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, etc.)


46 posted on 03/27/2010 4:19:01 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So under such a system, what’s to stop the POTUS from nominally enlisting any large group of people he wants, “assigning” them to whatever job or welfare they already have, and thus granting them two votes for the cost of claiming that they are now military members?


47 posted on 03/27/2010 5:55:46 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: BenKenobi
"Yeah, and blame the Catholics is really going to help you get a majority in ‘10."

Uh, I think he was criticizing the bishops, not all Catholics. And rightfully so. I'm a Catholic, and "I" think the bishops position is flatly wrong. Illegal immigrants are NOT Mary and Joseph seeking shelter. They are thieves, stealing from the poorest level of American citizens.

48 posted on 03/27/2010 5:56:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Windflier

You know, You’re right. They are that degraded.


49 posted on 03/27/2010 7:54:23 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: Niteflyr

This is how they are planning to win the election in 2012,
grant amnesty to 8-12 million illegals, give felons the
vote and you have a huge majority for democrats.


50 posted on 03/27/2010 8:26:40 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Tzimisce
They are going to f**k with the election of 2010.

And 2012 will be affected by their 2010 Census tampering and Illegals Amnesty...

51 posted on 03/27/2010 8:30:10 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What if current military servicemembers and honorably discharged veterans were given two votes for having/having had “skin in the game” as the saying goes?

Sci-fi author Robert Heinlein once "imagineered" a society in which only active-duty and retired military could vote, in his novella Starship Troopers.

The problem with a Spartiate society is numbers, specifically family-formation and reproduction. The Spartiates declined in numbers all through the fifth and fourth centuries; by the end of the latter they'd been subjugated by Philip of Macedon and Alexander. But even before that, they'd been decimated on the battlefields of the Persian and Peloponnesian Wars and were no longer able to maintain their numbers.

They tried for a while to supplement and "get by" with mercenaries, auxiliaries, and allies, but in the end the basic problem of numbers was fatal.

Had they successfully recruited aliens by offering them citizenship, at some point the Spartiate body would no longer have been Spartan, and the city-state's culture would have died, such as it was.

Population decline also hurt the Roman Empire. In Caesar's time, most Roman soldiers were citizens and colonists (i.e. descendants of Romans living in "colony" towns like Aquileia). A hundred years later, Italian troops in the army were being outnumbered by Spaniards, Syrians, and others. By the third century, British, Pannonian, and Illyrian troops were the flower of the army, and a century and a half later, it was German immigrants and a few Dalmatian and Illyrian formations propping up what had become a cavalry army of cataphracts (the precursors of medieval knights) from "everywhere"; and Huns began to appear in elite guard formations, because when Huns fought, they always fought to the death and were incorruptible in garrison.

Meanwhile, the old recruiting grounds of the Roman army were being defaced by the appearance of the mutili, young men who, with their families' help, cut off thumbs or toes so they could not serve in the army. That was the length to which Italians, Gallo-Romans, and Spanish Romans would go, to avoid service.

52 posted on 03/27/2010 8:52:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Nitro
Does anyone else think Obama is not very good with numbers??

I think rather that he is a careless liar with numbers -- careless because he holds the intended victims of his lies in contempt.

53 posted on 03/27/2010 9:01:23 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: upcountryhorseman
This is how they are planning to win the election in 2012, grant amnesty to 8-12 million illegals, give felons the vote and you have a huge majority for democrats.

That means a refoundation of the Democratic Party, and the United States itself, on criminality.

54 posted on 03/27/2010 9:02:39 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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55 posted on 03/27/2010 9:51:33 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would say that America’s ignorance is in first place as its worst enemy, the corrupt government is the result of this ignorance. In the past the worst enemy consisted of those who set up the deliberate failure to educate that has resulted in people walking around with advanced degrees but lacking the basic education that used to be taught in the first eight years at public schools back in the fifties. When people who actually are educated but lack a sheepskin are considered unqualified but those who have post graduate degrees but lack a high school education are considered qualified the result is present day America.

I see no way to turn this around in the short term. Perhaps a new nation can be built on the ruins but the America we have known and loved is gone already.

You can’t save a house that has already burned to the ground but you can rebuild on old foundations.


56 posted on 03/27/2010 10:06:23 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama, fellow Socialists to ram through new amnesty bill soon!

And, *presto*, 30 million new Democrat voters - because that's what this is really all about!

57 posted on 03/27/2010 10:52:12 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Wonder Warthog

Good, because it’s important to make it clear that this is not Catholic teaching. Personally, I think all immigration should be permitted, but I think that the welfare state should be dismantled.

The problem is not immigration but entitlements.


58 posted on 03/27/2010 11:52:10 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Of course they are going to ‘butt naked’ raham through AMNESTY, it is after all the ‘compassionate’ religious thing to do. Isn't this all about making ‘heaven’ here on earth?
59 posted on 03/27/2010 11:55:03 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: familyop
It is to me, too. Would we rather have it happen quickly or slowly? If it happens quickly, they'll be out of revenues and out of politics. Worthless money is worthless to government employees and politicians, too. If it happens slowly, they might find another Ponzi scheme to keep it going another 30 years, with a few more measures to control us and keep us from breeding.

If I recall correctly both the BamBamKennedys have called this a time of 'sacrifice'. Now in religious terms this is the 'compassionate' thing to do and be. The left has religion and they are the 'gods' making thing wrong - right, and right - wrong. Now if they can get US to act like thy act they can really bring forth some sacrificing.

60 posted on 03/28/2010 12:04:41 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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