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Obama, fellow Socialists to ram through new amnesty bill soon!
Small Government Times ^ | March 26, 2010 | J. D. Longstreet

Posted on 03/26/2010 10:18:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Arthur McGowan

Yeah, and blame the Catholics is really going to help you get a majority in ‘10.

How’s that ‘catholic bashing working out for ya anyways?


41 posted on 03/27/2010 1:23:17 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: Tzimisce

The democrats are counting on the sub-class of US citizens who are permanent wards of the government to save their collective asses this coming November at the polls. They are the Americans who depend on the government for their very existence. They vote for democrats because democrats promise them their continued dole every month. The millions of illegal aliens, once granted citizenship, will, for the most part, join the millions in this sub-class and add their votes to the democrat side of the ballot. THAT is the reason for the Comprehensive Immigration Bill… or the New Amnesty Bill.

The ignorance of the average American voter got us the socialist government we have today in America. Already we have seen a humongous decline in America, on all fronts, since the election of 2006 and it only quickened its pace upon the election of a socialist President in 2008.


42 posted on 03/27/2010 1:52:55 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: BenKenobi

Look at McGowan’s freeper page. RCC priest. One of the very few I’ve seen that grok the local problem.


43 posted on 03/27/2010 2:04:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let them try calling off elections/martial law or whatever.

The whole point of this article is that they won't have to call off the elections or declare martial law! What they will do is pass, using the same methods used to pass healthcare, both an "instant amnesty" law and an "instant voter registration" law.

Combine that with the new census which will tell us how (surprise!) many more "latinos" are here than we thought (which will be reported endlessly by the media, long before the official results are in), to get us used to the idea of how lopsided the 2010 vote will be for Obama and the Dems - when everyone you know is against them.

Even the sister who voted for Obama in 2008. Even the two buddies from the shooting club who thought it was time for change.

So, please consider re-drawing your line in the sand. The communists have long ago figured out that one and are planning around it.

They can, and will, seize the nation without firing a shot, without declaring martial law, and without doing door-to-door searches for guns. If those are the only things that will make you resist in some way other than voting, then there is a very good chance we will lose the Republic.

44 posted on 03/27/2010 2:05:16 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Widespread, Justified American Grassroots Civil Disobedience will be in order if they try this again. I am serious. Now to creatively find out what would be effective to really fix their wagons. Some of it could be bringing their immigration "regularization" bureaucracy to a complete halt so that no illegals could get any newly proposed documents to show they are legalized, because regular Americans would flood the offices nationwide with incessantly repeated / polite non threatening calls, repeated faxes, personal visits to take up staff time, bogus requests for forms over and over again, just torching the forms or throwing them in alleyways (after making them unusuable) and asking for me, etc. etc. to completely shut down whichever federal agency was tasked to officially codify them as having "legal status." With this counter-legalization effort reaching into the MILLIONS of Americans (many of them unemployed with all the time on their hands not to mention angry at the thought of illegals being legalized in order to take US jobs during a recession/depression), the whole Federal system could be brought to a complete standstill....and there would not be a damned thing they could do about it....millions upon millions of illegal persons on our soil would not be "legal" because they would continue to remain "undocumented" in terms of documentation ....and keeping them at bay for six more months until a new Republican Senate/House could get in place in January is all that we would need--just run the clock out on them. We can enjoy at LEAST a Republican Congress until 2014 and certainly a Republican Presidency from 2012 to 2016. Forcing them back to their homelands through attrition (cutting off of social services, etc) would be undergone during this time. The Demos would see lost vote after lost vote getting in cars and vans and busses and heading out of our country for good, thus further denying them the permanent underclass majority vote they are seeking to construct with the twin evils of Obamacare and Legalization of Aliens.

Just thinking aloud here. They can pass any damned law or executive order they want in the Beltway with respect to I.C.E. laws and residency, but if the bureaucracy cannot function to carry it out, there will be minimal to no real effect of the new law. Gandhi would be smiling.

45 posted on 03/27/2010 2:11:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Tea Party 2009-2010 a SMASHING SUCCESS! Massive civil disobedience stopped Obamacare once & for all.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

The illegal aliens survive on jobs that are given them under fake s.s. numbers by employers who look the other way (mostly American employers who know the truth about their cheap labor with no benefits.) This has been going on for decades. As long as the government does not enforce the laws on the books regarding illegal aliens and their employment, nothing will change. The Catholic Church, other than it’s message of caring for strangers (in this case naive of the economic and social impact of undocumented workers who pay little or no taxes yet use a much greater amount of the benefits of society) doesn’t have a great deal of political sway over it’s flock, maybe the less intelligent ones, but then again, the democrats have an impact several times that of the Catholic Church. As for Christian churches positions on illegal aliens, there are several Protestant denominations that speak the same message(United Church of Christ, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, etc.)


46 posted on 03/27/2010 4:19:01 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So under such a system, what’s to stop the POTUS from nominally enlisting any large group of people he wants, “assigning” them to whatever job or welfare they already have, and thus granting them two votes for the cost of claiming that they are now military members?


47 posted on 03/27/2010 5:55:46 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: BenKenobi
"Yeah, and blame the Catholics is really going to help you get a majority in ‘10."

Uh, I think he was criticizing the bishops, not all Catholics. And rightfully so. I'm a Catholic, and "I" think the bishops position is flatly wrong. Illegal immigrants are NOT Mary and Joseph seeking shelter. They are thieves, stealing from the poorest level of American citizens.

48 posted on 03/27/2010 5:56:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Windflier

You know, You’re right. They are that degraded.


49 posted on 03/27/2010 7:54:23 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: Niteflyr

This is how they are planning to win the election in 2012,
grant amnesty to 8-12 million illegals, give felons the
vote and you have a huge majority for democrats.


50 posted on 03/27/2010 8:26:40 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Tzimisce
They are going to f**k with the election of 2010.

And 2012 will be affected by their 2010 Census tampering and Illegals Amnesty...

51 posted on 03/27/2010 8:30:10 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What if current military servicemembers and honorably discharged veterans were given two votes for having/having had “skin in the game” as the saying goes?

Sci-fi author Robert Heinlein once "imagineered" a society in which only active-duty and retired military could vote, in his novella Starship Troopers.

The problem with a Spartiate society is numbers, specifically family-formation and reproduction. The Spartiates declined in numbers all through the fifth and fourth centuries; by the end of the latter they'd been subjugated by Philip of Macedon and Alexander. But even before that, they'd been decimated on the battlefields of the Persian and Peloponnesian Wars and were no longer able to maintain their numbers.

They tried for a while to supplement and "get by" with mercenaries, auxiliaries, and allies, but in the end the basic problem of numbers was fatal.

Had they successfully recruited aliens by offering them citizenship, at some point the Spartiate body would no longer have been Spartan, and the city-state's culture would have died, such as it was.

Population decline also hurt the Roman Empire. In Caesar's time, most Roman soldiers were citizens and colonists (i.e. descendants of Romans living in "colony" towns like Aquileia). A hundred years later, Italian troops in the army were being outnumbered by Spaniards, Syrians, and others. By the third century, British, Pannonian, and Illyrian troops were the flower of the army, and a century and a half later, it was German immigrants and a few Dalmatian and Illyrian formations propping up what had become a cavalry army of cataphracts (the precursors of medieval knights) from "everywhere"; and Huns began to appear in elite guard formations, because when Huns fought, they always fought to the death and were incorruptible in garrison.

Meanwhile, the old recruiting grounds of the Roman army were being defaced by the appearance of the mutili, young men who, with their families' help, cut off thumbs or toes so they could not serve in the army. That was the length to which Italians, Gallo-Romans, and Spanish Romans would go, to avoid service.

52 posted on 03/27/2010 8:52:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Nitro
Does anyone else think Obama is not very good with numbers??

I think rather that he is a careless liar with numbers -- careless because he holds the intended victims of his lies in contempt.

53 posted on 03/27/2010 9:01:23 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: upcountryhorseman
This is how they are planning to win the election in 2012, grant amnesty to 8-12 million illegals, give felons the vote and you have a huge majority for democrats.

That means a refoundation of the Democratic Party, and the United States itself, on criminality.

54 posted on 03/27/2010 9:02:39 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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55 posted on 03/27/2010 9:51:33 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would say that America’s ignorance is in first place as its worst enemy, the corrupt government is the result of this ignorance. In the past the worst enemy consisted of those who set up the deliberate failure to educate that has resulted in people walking around with advanced degrees but lacking the basic education that used to be taught in the first eight years at public schools back in the fifties. When people who actually are educated but lack a sheepskin are considered unqualified but those who have post graduate degrees but lack a high school education are considered qualified the result is present day America.

I see no way to turn this around in the short term. Perhaps a new nation can be built on the ruins but the America we have known and loved is gone already.

You can’t save a house that has already burned to the ground but you can rebuild on old foundations.


56 posted on 03/27/2010 10:06:23 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama, fellow Socialists to ram through new amnesty bill soon!

And, *presto*, 30 million new Democrat voters - because that's what this is really all about!

57 posted on 03/27/2010 10:52:12 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Wonder Warthog

Good, because it’s important to make it clear that this is not Catholic teaching. Personally, I think all immigration should be permitted, but I think that the welfare state should be dismantled.

The problem is not immigration but entitlements.


58 posted on 03/27/2010 11:52:10 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Of course they are going to ‘butt naked’ raham through AMNESTY, it is after all the ‘compassionate’ religious thing to do. Isn't this all about making ‘heaven’ here on earth?
59 posted on 03/27/2010 11:55:03 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: familyop
It is to me, too. Would we rather have it happen quickly or slowly? If it happens quickly, they'll be out of revenues and out of politics. Worthless money is worthless to government employees and politicians, too. If it happens slowly, they might find another Ponzi scheme to keep it going another 30 years, with a few more measures to control us and keep us from breeding.

If I recall correctly both the BamBamKennedys have called this a time of 'sacrifice'. Now in religious terms this is the 'compassionate' thing to do and be. The left has religion and they are the 'gods' making thing wrong - right, and right - wrong. Now if they can get US to act like thy act they can really bring forth some sacrificing.

60 posted on 03/28/2010 12:04:41 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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