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Approaching apocalypse: Will Obama docs surface?
World Net Daily ^ | April 20, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 04/20/2010 8:02:29 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

The defense attorney for an officer refusing Army orders until Barack Obama documents his eligibility to be commander in chief has hinted that the president's proof of eligibility could come up during the course of the government's prosecution of his client.

"In the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), just as you would expect, criminal defendants have the process of the court, for subpoenas and depositions under the rules that are prescribed," attorney Paul Jensen said during an interview today on the radio show of G. Gordon Liddy.

Jensen was on the program with his client, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who posted a YouTube video inviting his own court-martial because he believes military orders under an ineligible president are illegal, and then posted a letter telling Obama that it's up to him to provide the proof.

"I'm not going to say what we are going to do other than we are going to do what you would want us to do," Jensen said.

He specifically avoided broadcasting any specific defense strategy for the case that is developing against Lakin – confirming that the officer was told in writing on Monday that he now has been "flagged" by the military and charges are expected to be filed soon.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligible; fraud; ineligible; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrylakin; wnd
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To: shibumi
I don't disagree that the UCMJ provides as wide a range of discovery as civilian trial, but I believe the court will tell the defense that it will accept the verdict of the US Congress in the matter of Obama's eligibility. IMO the only judicial arena where Obama could be required to provide his BoE is if the case went to SCOTUS. And SCOTUS would have to agree to accept the case.

I think the only potential avenue is one such as is being proposed in Ariz. And that is two years down the road.

61 posted on 04/20/2010 8:50:47 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Never compromise with evil! Even in the face of Armageddon!! Rorshach)
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To: xkaydet65

Cmdr. Fitzpatrick had his hearing in tn. this morning and
it was postponed til may 4. Says he wants jury trial. Hope
he gets it.He’s another hero.


62 posted on 04/20/2010 8:52:58 PM PDT by manonCANAL
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To: yetidog

There are numerous threads on FR that detail exactly why those announcements are not proof of anything. You really should read up. If they are fraudulent in some way, or called in by gramma even though the little vermin was spawned somewhere else, obviously it would be to help give him US citizenship for convenience, not becuase they thought he’d be president some day. There’s also a bit of evidenve they could have been inserted in microfiche or whatever. No one has seen the originals, just micrfiche or rather copies of the microfiche.

At that time the news papers in HI only printed announcements of some of the births, not all of them. It has not been determined exactly how those births made it into the paper at that time. Now, parents or other relatives can fax or I suppose bring in birth announcements to the papers.


63 posted on 04/20/2010 8:54:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Royal Wulff
I read the article that proposed that scenario. Seems plausible.

At this point what is the downside? That Barry's “Dreams of my Pal Bill” is a steaming load of fiction? Heck, we already know that.

I'm just wondering if he is letting this drag on while he concocts useful lies to unveil just in time to make the right look like kooks in 2012.

64 posted on 04/20/2010 8:54:55 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: reardensteel
The ONLY way Oblama is going to be removed from office other than voted out in 2012 is if the Supreme Court saw some reason to question his eligibility. That just isn't going to happen.

The Army Officer may indirectly help the process, by getting the issue more attention and mainstream. The Kerchner case is still on going.

65 posted on 04/20/2010 8:55:36 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: garjog

A major corporation isn’t the same as the nation which must follow the Constitution. What a crappy analogy.


66 posted on 04/20/2010 8:55:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: xkaydet65

Gosh! Post 60 seems to sum it up! I Love my company here, just maybe are You going to admit being WRONG?


67 posted on 04/20/2010 8:56:18 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: little jeremiah

This isn’t the hill to die on. November 2010 is the first step. Providing a real alternative to the Dems insanities is where things should be focused. Also, I believe if this had any validity Hillary would have uncovered all there was to be uncovered in the primary.


68 posted on 04/20/2010 8:56:19 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Never compromise with evil! Even in the face of Armageddon!! Rorshach)
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To: opentalk

In Auguest 1961 not all births were printed in the newspaper. Only about half.


69 posted on 04/20/2010 8:57:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Nepeta

People are going to laugh at your theory, but I won’t and you may be closer to the truth than many think.


70 posted on 04/20/2010 8:57:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: manonCANAL

Yes indeed. The LTC case will most likely never happen. If it goes to trial they can demand discovery and not what the Congress voted on. They will not want discovery so my guess is there will be no trial.

The more this happens - the more obvious he is not eligble and it could lead to a tipping point with the military.

How long will the Joint Cheifs put up with American soldiers getting killed in Iraq and Afghan cause intel is getting leaked to the enemy or our troops are being killed because they cannot fight back due to the usurpers rules of engagement.

I think nationwide there is a slow fuse. Goldman Sachs is just another example of the massive corruption.


71 posted on 04/20/2010 8:58:38 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: Nepeta

If your speculation were true, then 0bama would not have gone with Stanley Ann to Indonesia to get adopted by Lolo Soetoro.


72 posted on 04/20/2010 8:59:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Smokeyblue

“I’ve got no opinion one way or another on his place of birth. But there are no transcripts available from the colleges he supposedly attended. And Obama refuses to make available a real birth certificate, just this half assed Hawaiian “Registry of Birth”, which allows the liberal media to throw up smoke for him. This is what has been driving Lou Dobbs up the wall, even though he professes to believe that Obama was born in the U.S.

So Obama is hiding something, and whatever it is must be significant.


73 posted on 04/20/2010 9:00:01 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Frantzie

We aren’t staying in Iraq or Afghanistan. First the Iraqi troops will come home, then the Afghanistan troops will be next. We won’t stay there for the long haul. Remember, his base hates the wars. They do not support the wars.


74 posted on 04/20/2010 9:00:35 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat; xkaydet65

We should obviously just all kill ourselves right now, after first digging an appropriate hole to fall into.

People who try to instill defeat in others are sickening cowards.


75 posted on 04/20/2010 9:03:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: GOPsterinMA

That would be unprecedented in the modern era.


76 posted on 04/20/2010 9:03:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

We will be in Afghanistan longer you expect. He does not want those troops back here.

A few more of these cases getting dropped and people will realize he is hiding that he is not eligble. Take it to trial - bring it on. They will not.


77 posted on 04/20/2010 9:05:41 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: xkaydet65

I’m sick of that “not the hill to die on”. 0bama is not eligible, and likely in more the one way. He may not even be an American citizen. He and his agenda and his minions must be fought from every angle.

He has dirt on the Clintons, they have dirt on him, and they both want to destroy the US in the same way. She was a student of Alinksy’s. That argument didn’t fly before and it won’t fly now.


78 posted on 04/20/2010 9:06:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: haroldeveryman
So Obama is hiding something, and whatever it is must be significant.

many of the photos of his earlier life seem to be doctored.

79 posted on 04/20/2010 9:06:46 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: mojitojoe

If 0bama was SADO’s father actual son, why would he have been taken by SADO to Indonesia to get adopted by Soetoro? That doesn’t make sense.


80 posted on 04/20/2010 9:07:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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