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Climatologist Warns Of Second Dust Bowl In Growing Southwest Desert
The Business Insider ^ | 8-13-2010 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 08/13/2010 11:45:20 AM PDT by blam

Climatologist Warns Of Second Dust Bowl In Growing Southwest Desert

Gus Lubin
Aug. 13, 2010, 11:43 AM

A climatologist at Columbia University says the Southwest looks forward to "permanent drought" conditions on par with the Dust Bowl of the 1930s.

Arizona was already an arid and hot, but here's how Professor Richard Seager says it will get worse.

Grist:

A critical player in this drying cycle is the planetary-scale circulation system known as the Hadley cell... The Hadley cell is growing. Its expansion above a larger swath of the American Southwest, along with a shifting of the jet stream and many storms northward, is a worrisome trend, says Seager. It means there is little chance that the Southwest can avoid becoming drier in the coming decades. In fact, when Seager's team analyzed some 49 computer projections of the region's likely future climate, using 19 major climate models, all but three scenarios agreed: drought ahead.

Will a growing desert cut away property values in the Southwest? Maybe not, but it will increase air conditioning costs and devastate whatever agriculture there is.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; depression; doommonger; dustbowl; recession
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To: blam
Waistin' away again, in Obamaville...

21 posted on 08/13/2010 12:15:22 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: blam

The left had better hope there is not another Dust Bowl especially in Arizona or Oklahoma.

All those conservatives in those two red states just might be migrating to blue states like Oregon and Washington....where all the water is.


22 posted on 08/13/2010 12:22:22 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge
In Las Vegas we have gone 134 days without any measurable percipitation. So what else is new.?
23 posted on 08/13/2010 12:28:04 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 ("He will pour out his anger and wrath on those who live only for themselves' Romans 2:8)
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To: ReformedBeckite
"What do you all think of this theory."

In an ideal world, one theory is no better than another.

(ahem)

24 posted on 08/13/2010 12:39:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: La Lydia

The blessing that came with the loss of the topsoil with the wind was that all sorts of arrowheads and Indian tools showed up on the top of the remaining soil.


25 posted on 08/13/2010 12:40:33 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: blam

How about a huge pipe line pumping river water from the east into our dry lake beds?


26 posted on 08/13/2010 12:45:55 PM PDT by eccentric
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To: eccentric
How about a huge pipe line pumping river water from the east into our dry lake beds?

Trying to take other people's water is a great way to provoke lots of flying lead.

27 posted on 08/13/2010 12:52:17 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: eccentric
"How about a huge pipe line pumping river water from the east into our dry lake beds?"

I like the idea of a big canal coming from Canada.

28 posted on 08/13/2010 12:52:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: eccentric

How about building 20 nuclear plants and desalinate ocean water at the same time we shore up our stretched energy supplies?


29 posted on 08/13/2010 12:53:58 PM PDT by listenhillary (When will our government stop abusing us and stop hurting our children?)
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To: blam

“If it’s not one thing, it’s another.”

And if that isn’t bad enough, everyone there eventually dies. Guaranteed.


30 posted on 08/13/2010 1:15:23 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: blam

North Africa used to be the southern end of the Fertile Crescent...they’re still finding abandoned cities buried in the sand...

This guy is a professor at the Columbia school of commies, and his rhetoric certainly reflects it...control, control, control...but you can’t control the climate, you just adapt to it..even dumb arse fire ants will move out of an area of heavily watered lawn, and they will move into your house to get water...

And as somebody else said, these scientists that can’t even tell us for sure whether it’s going to rain or tornado tomorrow cannot convince me they have all the answers to climate movement or changes in the long term.


31 posted on 08/13/2010 1:18:05 PM PDT by RowdyFFC (.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

And if it’s permanent, why is he “looking forward” to it?


32 posted on 08/13/2010 1:19:09 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I heard a scientist say that 1000 years ago there was a 60 year drought in AZ. She said, “I hope I never live to see that.” 1000 years - also before coal and SUV.


33 posted on 08/13/2010 1:23:27 PM PDT by q_an_a (a)
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To: blam

The Zunis, didn’t do much good fighting off those pesky Spaniards, with Samauri swords did they!

And their bows weren’t Bushido bows were they?


34 posted on 08/13/2010 1:42:09 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Viva los SB 1070)
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To: ReformedBeckite

I’ve got a theory about the Great Big Dust Bowl, but I don’t know whether the theory holds any water but here it is. The theory is based on one thing leading to another. The first thing that happen was there was a trade embargo passed by either Hoover or Roosevelt,(I don’t know my total history of that time period) but anyway that leads to farmers getting rid of most of their farm animals that didn’t have any value anymore and went ahead and put their fields to grain which had more value, instead of rotating them with the farm animals. With that there was no restoration of the land, Also with the loss of the animals they lost their natural fertilizer they were using for their crops, so that added to the problem, I’m sure this isn’t the total reason for the big dust bowl but my gut feeling it was a major player in the lead up to the Big Dust Bowl. What do you all think of this theory.


Actually, there was mass overproduction of crops worldwide...mainly in the Western Hemisphere....just after WW I. It caused farm prices worldwide to drop....and hit South America hard in the early to mid 1920’s. Eventually, the over-production caught up with the US and Canada...and as the world economy fell into the late 20’s and early 30’s....the over-production became worse.

Farmers then cut back on production....taking many fields out of service. Fields not tended...ended up getting blown away during the dust bowl...eventually taking producing farms with it.

The Smoot-Hawley tariff did not cause the Dust Bowl, nor the Great Depression, nor anything else (I think you were going in that direction). The “Smoot-Hawley Caused The Great Depression” myth is about as asinine as the Global Warming Hoax


35 posted on 08/13/2010 1:53:03 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
"The Zunis, didn’t do much good fighting off those pesky Spaniards, with Samauri swords did they!"

It wasn't the 'Samurai Japanese' who came.

The Samurai And The Ainu

36 posted on 08/13/2010 3:09:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
In fact, when Seager's team analyzed some 49 computer projections of the region's likely future climate, using 19 major climate models, all but three scenarios agreed: drought ahead.

I hope their climate models are more accurate than those being used to push the notion of human caused global warming.

37 posted on 08/13/2010 3:49:24 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
The Smoot-Hawley tariff did not cause the Dust Bowl, nor the Great Depression, nor anything else (I think you were going in that direction). The “Smoot-Hawley Caused The Great Depression” myth is about as asinine as the Global Warming Hoax

Yeah embarrassingly that is what I was thinking but only out of ignorance. That leaving fields unplanted makes a lot of sense especially if they were out west where the wind blows and the land if flat.

38 posted on 08/13/2010 4:18:51 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: cripplecreek

Are the overfarming and soil conservation techniques better? I’ve done some historical reading, but don’t know how it is now...


39 posted on 08/14/2010 9:56:28 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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