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Obama's Islamic-Center Stance: Why the GOP Shouldn't Run Against It (BS! The GOP should and will!)
Time ^ | 8/16/2010 | Mark Halperin

Posted on 08/16/2010 3:49:50 AM PDT by tobyhill

Dear Republican Party:

Your moment is now.

This weekend, President Obama defended the right of Muslims to build a community center and mosque two short blocks from Ground Zero, despite cries of insensitivity from some New Yorkers and accusations of mischief from some pundits. This finally gives you an opportunity to add a powerful national-security cudgel to the message of economic woe you have been pushing as the midterm election approaches.

The political potency of the issue is obvious. Polls overwhelmingly show the President has put himself on the wrong side of public opinion. Opposition to the new facility arouses acute emotion and creates near total unity among relatives of 9/11 victims, first responders, Republican officeholders, potential 2012 presidential candidates, Tea Party members, the Fox News–talk radio–Drudge Report echo machine and many of the highly coveted swing and occasional voters whom you will need at the polls to win in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


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To: stratboy

Time Magazine. The only place you see it anymore is at the Dentist office.


21 posted on 08/16/2010 4:14:04 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: xzins

1000% CORRECT


22 posted on 08/16/2010 4:14:09 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69
I’d hate to run afoul of someone’s legitimate private property rights just to prevent this mosque from being built.

One doesn't have to be against, say, gun rights to believe that not everyone should be able to carry a gun--convicted terrorists, for example. Similarly, it doesn't make one against property rights to say that in this one case, maybe one or two property owners' rights are less important than allowing an existential threat to build a victory mosque on the sight where 3000 Americans were slaughtered. That's a LITTLE more important than building a Burger King or something.

23 posted on 08/16/2010 4:14:09 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: steelyourfaith

No Mas!


24 posted on 08/16/2010 4:15:16 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: tobyhill
I think it is very important for the GOP to define the issue carefully.

It shouldn't be against the Freedom of Worship and it shouldn't whine about 'senstivity'...it should IMO come out loud and clear against that aspect of the mosque that represents a monument to and commemoration of the successful Islamic attack on NYC and America.

25 posted on 08/16/2010 4:15:42 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." - Confucius)
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To: tobyhill

Wishful thinking. Does anyone outside of the elite enclaves take Mark Halperin seriously anymore? He is just another ruling class parrot.


26 posted on 08/16/2010 4:15:51 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: ModelBreaker
What would that answer be?

Something along the lines of what New York does within its borders is New York's business. Add a couple of platitudes about how they understand how people can be upset about the current mosque plans and a few comments about how important 1st Amendment rights are for everyone and they're home free.

27 posted on 08/16/2010 4:17:17 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: tobyhill

One question. is Mark Halperin on the Journ-O-list list?


28 posted on 08/16/2010 4:18:06 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I am with you.

But I’m not a lawyer, and I worry if it would require a certain amount of area to be declared under such a scenario, disenfranchising current property owners who just happen to be operating nearby.


29 posted on 08/16/2010 4:18:50 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69
I believe it's owned by some electric company. No one is disputing their “right to build” but we have a right to protest and continue to protest till we make these people so uncomfortable that they don't want to build.
30 posted on 08/16/2010 4:18:50 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
It shouldn’t be the core part of the platform but it should be a big step.

Maybe in New York and immediately surrounding it. But for the majority of the country any time spent on the mosque is time not spent hammering Obama on topics they really care about.

31 posted on 08/16/2010 4:19:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: tobyhill

“Cordova is a city in south Spain. Muslims armies invaded Spain in 711, massacring countless people. Then they converted the biggest church in Cordova into a mosque.

“Building mosques over churches, synagogues and temples of the conquered people began during the life of Muhammad who converted the temple of the Arabs in Mecca into an Islamic mosque.

“Muslims have been doing the same ever since. Numerous Hindu temples, churches, synagogues and Zoroastrian temples were converted into mosques. The objective is twofold” To humiliate the defeated people and to establish the supremacy of Islam.

“The mosque over the temple of Solomon in Jerusalem is one example. When Muslims conquered the Byzantine Empire they converted the biggest church in the Christian empire into a mosque. In India over 2000 mosques are built on Hindu temples.”

http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/jihad-articles/ali-sina-on-ground-zero-mosque-cordova-house/


32 posted on 08/16/2010 4:19:02 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: tobyhill

Why take advice from a liberal/socialist medidiot?


33 posted on 08/16/2010 4:21:25 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Daisyjane69

Again, I simply think disenfranchising a few property owners isn’t a sin worse than the building of this thing. Yeah, I don’t feel good about it, but come on, we’re talking much bigger stakes.

That we are quibbling over these important but ultimately minor points while dealing with an existential threat to this nation is alarming to me. This is a textbook case of the frog in the water not noticing while the heat is being turned up.


34 posted on 08/16/2010 4:21:57 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: tobyhill

I wouldn’t take advice from Mark Halperin on how to wipe my butt.


35 posted on 08/16/2010 4:22:39 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: tobyhill

Yes, we must seek to deploy strategies devised for us by or mortal enemies ... like Time Ragazine.

What BOZOs.


36 posted on 08/16/2010 4:22:56 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: tobyhill
islam is not a religion... it is a death cult. All that embrace islam are our enemies... ALL that embrace it!

LLS

37 posted on 08/16/2010 4:24:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Would the US have allowed property rights in 1947 for Toyota to build an auto plant at Pearl Harbor?


38 posted on 08/16/2010 4:24:52 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter -God's redemption)
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To: Darkwolf377

I agree with you on most of this.

Maybe we ought to let them (try to) build it, then have a more conservative administration exercise eminent domain and force them off it and tear it down again.

I prefer this plan. Riskier but somehow more satisfying.


39 posted on 08/16/2010 4:27:43 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: tobyhill

Are the libs coordinating?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2571302/posts

Lay Off Michelle Obama’s Spain Trip, Republicans
US News and World Report

| August 14, 2010 | John Aloysius Farrell, Contributing Editor


40 posted on 08/16/2010 4:28:37 AM PDT by maggief
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