A little more than a month ago, dozens of birthers stormed DC to receive their marching orders from the Exalted Grand Poobah of birtherism...The Great and Powerful Philip Berg.
The "movement" is gaining momentum!!!!
Posted on 12/03/2010 2:57:13 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
There is only one certain method through which all of the horrors of the Obama Administration can be undone, and that is by proving that Barack Hussein Obama is constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of President of the United States and nullifying his presidency.
The questions and inconsistencies have all been addressed, including such things as place and country of birth, even including inconsistencies regarding which hospital he was born, Obama’s SSN, passport records, and the dearth of personal information that has been made public. There is one person, however, that had to certify his eligibility, and that was Nancy Pelosi. Furthermore, only one state officially certified Obama’s eligibility, and that was Hawaii, unlike previous elections where all states had certified the eligibility of the candidate.
It has become almost self-destructive to attempt to attack Obama directly on his eligibility. The administration and the press corps have automatic responses to belittle anyone that dare question eligibility. To go after Pelosi for negligence and carelessness in failing her responsibility to fully vet the candidate is much more palatable.
The most effective way to do this, in my opinion, is to ask the new House Minority Leader to diffuse all the rumors and innuendo about Obama’s eligibility by answering direct questions about it. Certainly, she should have the answers, shouldn’t she? After all, she was the final arbiter of Obama’s eligibility. Certainly, she could not have left key questions go unanswered, could she?
I believe that if Nancy Pelosi was brought before an investigative committee, the average American would be stunned by her lack of knowledge about the man she certified as eligible to hold the most powerful office in the land. I believe it would become her undoing, and ultimately, Obama’s.
-——There is one person, however, that had to certify his eligibility, and that was Nancy Pelosi. -———
I know of no factual basis for this statement. I know of no requirement for the House or more specifically the Speaker of the House to certify the credentials of nominees.
She as convention chair sent a letter to the various Secretaries of State certifying that Obama was nominated by the convention. That letter was factual in that Obama was the nominee but she did not certify he was constitutionally qualified.
Hawaii state election law requires each political party to certify its candidates as constitutionally eligible. The statute reads, in part:
(1) In the case of candidates of political parties which have been qualified to place candidates on the primary and general election ballots, the appropriate official of those parties shall file a sworn application with the chief election officer not later than 4:30 p.m. on the sixtieth day prior to the general election, which shall include:
(A) The name and address of each of the two candidates;
(B) A statement that each candidate is legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution;
(C) A statement that the candidates are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and the national party, giving the time, place, and manner of the selection.
Hawaii state election law requires
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Well, when driving into Hawaii, is there a sign at the state line saying “HAWAII - Birthplace of Pres B Obama”?
Fact.
Thank you for reply. In the meantime, I found this:
http://newsflavor.com/opinions/white-house-insider-pelosi-scandal-soros-and-racism/
While nothing is definitive, it is getting nasty…good….
It seems to blow apart my idea about Nancy trying to save herself and Obama. Obama has nothing to do with it…so it appears. She is off doing “her own thing.” What it is, I don’t know, and that is what the author is trying to discover.
This is part two. Please go to Google and pickup on part one.
In any even, here is a copy of part one of the interview:…..
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Do you mind if we switch gears just a bit? With the short time we have left I want to throw a bunch of questions at you. Is that ok? Sure – fire away kid. No promise I’ll give you an answer though.
Ok – so you still think Hillary Clinton is thinking of running for President in 2012? Yes.
What will be the biggest factor in her final decision? The economy. If it does not improve she is in. She will run.
How long before that decision is made by her? By spring – a few more months or so. But she won’t be the first to jump in against Obama. Word is there will be a break the ice candidate.
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Break the ice candidate? What is that? Someone will step in to challenge Obama – break the ice. That will allow Hillary to come in after and not be the party crasher so to speak. The first candidate comes in and creates the chaos –she follows after to calm it all down and play up her experience. She is saving the party and saving the country. If Hillary gets into the race for president, some version of that process is how it will go down.
You know this? How? There is no real “know” in politics. Things are changing – but Hillary wants in. She wants to be president. So, now they just have to wait and plan for the right opportunity. That opportunity may come, and it may not. They are looking at deciding by spring though, that much I do know. For instance, if the scandal breaks – that would give her a prime opportunity to step in now wouldn’t it?
Yes, I guess it would. If Hillary Clinton were to seek the presidency, would you support her? Absolutely – I have said that to you already. Yes, I would absolutely support her. And I would gladly be a part of her campaign. Hey Hillary – call me! (laughs)
How about the new Republican Congress? Do you think they will get those Bush tax cuts extended? Probably. The Democrats are trying to exclude the top bracket cuts. Make the issue about the Republicans wanting to protect the rich. That’s from a very old playbook, right? The Republicans are aware of that trap, and will work to give a blanket extension for all tax payers. In the end you will see the lower brackets given the permanent extension and the upper brackets given a temporary extension – say two years.
Why two years? Because that will work in the Democrats’ favor for 2012. They will be able to once again say how the Republicans want to give tax cuts to the rich. It’s a simple trap – but the Republicans are stupid enough to fall for it. Just watch. 50/50 they actually fall for it. Boehner…he’s not all that bright you know.
Even with Democrats like yourself being so open about it? The “trap” that is? Sure. This little blog of yours won’t make one difference on that. The media is already trying to set it up for Democrats. The messaging is already initiated. Look for the Republicans to make the same mistake the Democrats did after 2008 – thinking the American people are on their side. No – the American people despise both parties. Well, now that Republicans won back the House in 2010, they can once again be painted as the party for the rich, for the bankers, for big business, etc. With a Republican Speaker, it will make that task much easier for us. Losing the House has made me far more hopeful that Democrats can do well – or at least much better, in 2012. There will be a lot of bumps along the way, but our chances have greatly improved.
You sound a lot more positive than you were before. What happened to all the crisis in the Democratic Party talk? Oh, the party is still in crisis, and there is going to be much more to come…what’s that saying? First comes denial, then anger, and finally acceptance. Maybe I’m at the acceptance stage now. People in the party are talking, things are forming, I see a new and stronger direction for 2012 and beyond. Unless of course, Nancy Pelosi somehow manages to keep her leadership role within the party. That would be…incredibly stupid of us. But you never know what Democrats are capable of right? If Pelosi retains her position, there will be more staff leaving the White House because that will signal the party has truly lost its political compass and the White House will have been proven powerless in correcting it. Nobody wants to work for a loser. The poor bastards who were around for Carter – it took them years to recover their careers, and some never really did.
How likely is it she keeps her role as Democrat leader in the House? She is out. I just cannot see it happening – her being allowed to be minority leader. No way. Yeah, it could happen – it’s possible, but very unlikely. And if it does happen…well, you can throw all of my hope for 2012 out the window. Pelosi is too mixed up in what is coming at us in the coming months.
The White House scandal? Yes, that, and the ethics investigations of Rangel and Waters, and likely some others. The Republicans will drag those out for optimal impact. We know that – we’ve accepted that. Having Pelosi out in front as the face of the party during this time would be a horrible decision.
Specifically on the White House scandal again – I was told a report was coming soon. Something from a mainstream media outlet. Have you heard something similar? Where did you hear that? Your newspaper days coming back to you now?
Just something I heard – reliably. Have you heard anything similar? (pause) Yes. Many people have. This thing is percolating just under the surface right now. Sooner – not later, the pot is gonna start boiling. Yeah, someone is about to test the waters with this thing. I’ve heard that. Then again, I’ve heard that for a while now, so who knows, huh? I’d watch yourself though – told you that before. Be very careful who you are talking to on this. These people don’t play nice.
But nothing more specific? A name? No-no-no. Not going there – not yet. I don’t have the protection. Read the Times. Somebody there has sniffed it out. And a guy over at the Post. If the Post starts to get on it, the Times will probably go ahead and break it open, loyalty to the White House be damned. I told you before, parts of the story have already been given out publicly here and there. One part will lead to another and then another. It’s underway right now. Every week a little bit more shows itself.
You really like this cloak and dagger stuff don’t you? (laughs) Yeah, I suppose I do. But I also take it seriously, and you should too. Your blog thing is reaching the eyes and ears of some people very high up, and it’s driving them absolutely nuts.
Ok, I gotta ask this. And I don’t mean any disrespect to you but so many of my readers bring this up and some of them make pretty credible arguments on the subject that I’ve wanted to ask you about it for awhile…(leans forward) You got my attention – what’s the question?
The birth certificate issue…is it…is there some validity to… (eyebrows raise up) You’re going to ask me a Birther question! (laughs) I’m not laughing at the question, I’m laughing at how uncomfortable you are in trying to ask it!
Well, it does seem to go right into full on conspiracy stuff which I don’t like to pay much attention to. Hey, almost every great government scandal began as a silly conspiracy right? It’s how one side effectively discredits the other – just call them crazy. I have done it many times. Not so much because I enjoy it but because it works.
So…any truth to the birth certificate thing? Hell if I know – and I’m not sure I want to know. Do you realize the mess that would create if it was true? There would be violence of the kind this country has not seen in our lifetimes – or at least your lifetime. I forget sometimes how old I really am.
C’mon, you’re dancing around it. Is there any credibility to it? (leans back, folds arms across chest) Look, I will say this- people seem to have spent a considerable amount of time and money keeping others from finding out. I don’t know why more than to say this president has been very protective of almost everything in his past. From college transcripts to medical records to writings…he’s clearly very concerned with his privacy. I don’t necessarily fault him for that, but it does make you wonder – I understand that. If you are asking me if Obama is an American I say yes. I have no doubt about that. If you are asking me if Obama was born in America…
That’s exactly what I am asking you. Yeah…that one is a little tougher to say. I sure as hell hope so, because if he wasn’t, and somebody is able to prove it – holy hell we got problems.
You really think President Obama might not have been born in America? Whoa – don’t take it that far, ok? I’m not comfortable with you putting it quite like that. It’s not so much I don’t think he was born in America, it’s more that I am open to the possibility of that. Or I’m at least sympathetic to people who wonder about it themselves. But I don’t want to go there – it’s irrelevant to me. It’s too dangerous to consider. And it’s Obama’s own fault. He has covered up his past. Beyond his books, which frankly from what I have seen of him firsthand I don’t think he wrote entirely himself, there really is very little we know about the guy. The one most responsible for all of these conspiracy stories is Barack Obama. When you have White House staff – people who were involved in the day to day decisions coming out of the West Wing saying they have no clue who Obama really is, that shows an environment that is going to create a lot of this conspiracy stuff surrounding the president. And how about I ask you what you believe? Do you think Obama wasn’t born in America?
I’m not sure. I used to ignore that talk. Now I’m not sure. Like you said, there has been so much cover up of his past. Why? And you seem to have the same kind of doubts I do. Hmmm…I wouldn’t go quite that far. I think you want to believe in that Birther stuff. I don’t. I hope to God it’s not true. You on the other hand…
Now you’re putting words in my mouth. I don’t want it to be true either, I am just starting to wonder if…well, it appears there is smoke and maybe there’s fire. Fair enough. I can understand that.
So I take it this White House scandal you’ve been talking about has nothing to do with the birth certificate issue? No – not to my knowledge, no. Good lord, no. Don’t tie me up to that subject matter! And we gotta wrap this one up, ok?
Nervous? No – just in a hurry. We can pick this up again when I have more to tell you.
One last question. Make it quick please.
Who is the next to leave the White House? You correctly predicted Summers and Emanuel before anyone else. Can you give me another prediction on who the next administration figure who is on the way out? Sure – but there is going to be a whole rash of departures coming up you know. Top to bottom.
Can you give me a big name – somebody important who is leaving? You testing me?
Maybe – just seeing if you are still getting good information. Oh – I see. I’m only as good as my last success, is that it?
Sure – something like that. Gibbs.
Gibbs? Yeah – the fat -expletive- Gibbs is gone. And good riddance.
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REFERENCE: WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: “TEMPORARY INSANITY”
http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-temporary-insanity/
ULSTERMAN REPORT: WHITE HOUSE INSIDER REVIEW
http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/the-ulsterman-report-white-house-insider-review/
A little more than a month ago, dozens of birthers stormed DC to receive their marching orders from the Exalted Grand Poobah of birtherism...The Great and Powerful Philip Berg.
The "movement" is gaining momentum!!!!
Not even conjecture. More like fevered dream.
Sven makes this stuff up as he goes.
Every month or so he adds a new twist to it, tacks on another claim or blows some more smoke into the gun.
You’ll never see a whit of proof or evidence to back up any of it. he has none.
I like the tagline, and I’m sure it’s on the money.
We are now beginning the Reelection season, and all minds are set on this issue.
Soebarkah, the Communist Muslim boy from Indonesia with the busted lip can go to hell.
I’d argue that it matters a great deal if someone engages in wild hyperbole and makes stuff up to suit their desires then presents it as true.
That kind of behavior is unhelpful at best.
Nobody is making anything up, traitor. Obama naturalized as a US Citizen after returned to America as an Indonesian refugee in 1971.
Yet... You are making that up.
You know it.
I know it.
I don’t care if you admit it publicly.
I just ask you to stop doing it here at FR.
I’ll stick to my interpretation of events regarding Pelosi and Obama.
Pelosi staying and being Minority Leader may be a case of “Nancy Being Nancy.” And I don’t think the White House has anything to do with what she “decides.” She does what is best for her, according to her own demented thoughts.
The interesting part for me is that there seem to be two Nancys-—the pre ‘08 election Nancy and the post-election Nancy. She was always ambitious and controlling but once Obama took Bush’s place in the White House, she turned into a monster. Her performance as Speaker has been unbelievably high-handed, even though she started as Speaker in January ‘07. She really ran roughshod over the Republicans, the Blue Dogs, and the will of the American People and did it with total impunity. She even got away with the CIA smears. You can say all that is coincidental but I say it was the behavior of somebody who thinks they can get away with murder. And her “get out of jail card” is the cetificate of Obama’s eligibility she signed at the convention. To me, that’s the best explanation.
And to me, Nancy’s behavior in ramrodding unpopular legislation in ‘09 and ‘10 is more interesting than her staying on as Leader. We all have to pay the price for that. And I thought from the get-go that there was more behind her cockiness than just having a big new majority: she had a new president in the WH whom she could leverage.
BTW, I strongly resent anybody using the term “birther” because it is straight out of DU and a slur intended to compare people with questions about 0 with the 9-11 Truthers. And there is nothing “silly” about wanting documentation. Obama has produced ZERO documentation that would hold up in an honest court and all his camp’s explanations of his birth narrative are shot full of holes. You know it, I know it, and above all they know it. Which is why they immediately go into Alinsky ridicule mode whenever the subject comes up. They have no solid arguments, just cheap attacks and put-downs.
RE: “OK, If Pelosi was the one to say he was eligible to run for office, does the Republican House leader have to certify that he is again eligible to run for re-election?
If so...THAT IS THE PLACE TO FIX THE PROBLEM!!”
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How is it that there are still no reliable records of any kind on this POTUS? No legitimate birth certificate, no school records, bizarre past re relatives, friends, social security numbers, etc. NOTHING is available for all to see — How has all of this not been picked apart and truths revealed???
I cannot believe we have come this far without the truth coming out about the guy. Where’s the birth certificate? The grades? A photocopy of something resembling a BC from Hawaii doesn’t do it for me and I want to know the truth about his school grades.
Have you seen the letter??? I've seen copies on the I'net, and in it she certifies that "Barack Obama meets the qualifications to run for the office of President" (or similar language), and that she certifies him by the her authority as the leader of the Democrat Party.
That letter has NEVER made any sense to me. What legal standing under the federal Constitution or any state constitution does EITHER political party have to certify a candidate's qualfications??
The fact that the Secretaries of State of the various states ACCEPTED it as proof has always struck me as totally insane.
The fact that the Secretaries of State of the various states ACCEPTED it as proof has always struck me as totally insane.
Complicit in the largest crime in all of human history.
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