It would? Why then does Susan Nordyke's orginal long-form birth certificate say "caucasian" instead of "white" as you contend it would?
Posted on 05/02/2011 11:01:22 AM PDT by kiryandil
You knew I had pocket rockets, right? How often have you seen me come up with something on The Ticker without a fairly-decent set of evidence behind what I had to say?
It's time to call the curtain on this game and then go back to economics.
Find me one typewriter in the world, anywhere, that can perform kerning and I will believe this "certificate" is real.
For the uninitiated, "kerning" is the process of manipulating the spacing of letters to make the appearance more pleasing. Here's an example from this Ticker itself:
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1595
This process, of course, requires that you know what the next letter is. With a computer this is pretty easy, since the computer can retroactively go back and adjust, and it also can typeset the current letter with knowledge of what the previous one was.
A typewriter, on the other hand, is a mechanical device. It does not know what the next letter is that you will type, nor does it know what the last letter was that you typed. It thus has a typeface that always leaves physical space between the boundary of each character and the impression. It has to, lest letters run together and look like utter crap.
Typesetters (offset printing machines and similar) perform kerning - in fact, it's part of typesetting. But typewriters do not, cannot, and never have.
This, of course, is why the typed Birth Certificate has kerned text in it.
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1598
Oh, and before you say "that's an artifact of what the White House did with their automated process", here's the same thing on the AP copy, which is a simple picture scanned in, with no post-processing of materiality I can detect and no layers.
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=1597
Oh darn.
Incidentally this is not the only example, as I show in the video.
To refute this point you must come up with a typewriter that contains a flux capacitor and thus is capable of accurately predicting the future.
I'm sure there will be people who argue some sort of explanation (e.g. "sloppy carriage") for these results. But at the end of the day, here's the point: Exactly how many of these "explanations" have to line up in this way for everything to be on the up-and-up with this document? Each of these explanations that has been proffered - tab stops, damage to the background, the low number of layers from automated processing that just happen to all be on things that would be important to change if you were forging something, the appearance of kerning, misalignment of certain fields .vs. others and more - has a probability associated with it as random chance.
How many of these random probability events have to fall exactly the right way for the explanation that everything is on the up and up to be valid?
Remember, in 1961 nobody knew this person was anyone but a random half-black baby. There was absolutely nothing remarkable about him that would distinguish him from the other kids born in Hawaii - or anywhere else - that year. There was no reason for his birth certificate to be made any more "pretty" than any other kid's, or for any sort of special treatment. Nobody knew, absent a time machine, that this person would be President in 2008.
What are the odds, folks, that it would all line up as the Obama supports claim by simple random chance?
Now about that forensic analysis we should have done on the alleged document that allegedly is in the files at the Hawaii Registrar's office in order to see if it's really 50ish years old..... This is the only way we are going to get the truth. Will the American people, Congress, or someone (e.g. a judge) demand defensible truth on this topic? We damn well should.
(I think that's my pot in the center of the table. Would you help me push the rather-large pile of chips over here please?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85yVkL94_BU
PS: This is exactly how Dan Rather got caught - typography that was impossible to produce using the alleged tool the "document" was created with.
What?
Did I miss another staff meeting?
I knew I’d get you to whip out that authoritative document.
But, gee, lookie, lookie. Hawaii didn’t follow those guidelines even for the most populous race of “white.” They used “caucasian” not “white” as instructed. You can verify that by examining the Nordyke certificates and our FReeper Danae’s COLB and LFBC. Unless it’s your contention that those are also fake?
Give it up. Once an exception to the guidelines is established, the guidelines are of no further value, where “race” is concerned.
Otherwise the birth data is useless for statistical and census reasons I should add.
Of course, that hasn’t stopped any kind of stat manipulation in states like, oh, Illinois where the recently departed vote year after year.
*cough*
[Or New York with Motor Voter!]
” Hawaii didn’t follow those guidelines “
Soi you are admitting that a state violated vital statistics law and invalidated their data?
Shouldn’t there be prosecution from that then?
How about you ask Ayers and the Annenburg foundation at...factcheck?
What’s useless is your set of guidelines. Hawaii didn’t follow it for the parents’ race on the BC. We’ve clearly demonstrated that much.
The bottom line is it’s a fake too. Why? He said he found his BC among his mothers or grandmothers things. He said it in a book. Where is it? Why did he not produce it sooner? We’ve heard all kinds of stories about that too. Obama lies. All the time. Every time. About everything. The man is dangerous and intends to harm this country. Defending his birth fantasy is unimaginable to me.
“What’s useless is your set of guidelines.”
Law is law, it is either followed or broken.
Once broken penalties should commence.
We are a nation of laws.
Ask Ayers, he was arrested for breaking the law.
He smugly states he’d do it again and that he didn’t do it enough.
“We’ve clearly demonstrated that much.”
You and B Ayers friend of Obama at the Annenburg foundation that owns Factcheckorg?
Hardly.
You HAVE shown that you disregard the laws, especially those that applied to the year in question being 1961.
All in the name of what exactly?
To prove what?
Maybe he no longer had it as this was a decade or so ago? Is that possible?
What does the law for a 1961 birth certificate say?
The orginal would say white or ‘other nonwhite’.
THESE days they use all manner of neutral nonoffensive offensive nondescriptors.
But the original, the one that matters to THIS discussiion, would say something very different.
Give it up Sordo, the document is fake, now figure out who and why, that is the real question. Why did we learn more about Joe The Plumber in 24 hours than we know about the President of the United States?
Your continual rant that it is real accomplishes nothing, produce some proof of anything that makes the president qualified, a paper trail which is available on everyone except CIA spooks and other made up people, would be nice.
FactCheck.org has nothing to do with the facts. It’s just citation of a quote from the Hawaii DoH. You’re more than capable of researching for yourself whether or not Hawaii accepted the parents’ chosen race. I susect you won’t though because knowing the truth would put a crimp in your style of regurgitating Internet rumor and conjecture.
And those Kenyan census instructions that instruct the use of “African” as a race? I guess FactCheck made that up too, huh?
And the birth certificate where the father’s race is “American?” That must be a forgery too, huh?
He's a liar. All the time. About everything.
Yes or No question.
Are the Nordyke BC’s fake?
“FactCheck.org has nothing to do with the facts.”
Really?
So a foundation owned by Annenburg who is owned by Ayers who is a terrorist who is a friend of Barack Obama who in the ghost written book that he wrote for Obama claimed that Obama found “There in the pages of a book was my birth certificate” and then claimed to have found it elsewhere at yet nother time etc would have NO inclination or reason to ‘fudge’ things in favor of their boy who owes them?
You do understand Chicago politics and how THAT works, right?
You also understand Alinsky tactics and Marxist disinformation operations, right?
“Yes or No question.”
The answer is “Apple” by your own sides admission in post 65
The response is:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2713725/posts?page=68#68
You don't know what the truth is anymore than the rest of us. It's being hidden. With the help of a complicit press.
It would? Why then does Susan Nordyke's orginal long-form birth certificate say "caucasian" instead of "white" as you contend it would?
Maybe. But there's no reason to believe that as the official Hawaiian documentation does not reflect this.
“When did he change his name back to Obama? He was Soetoro in Indonesia.”
When did he, under his own authority as an adult, ever go by Sotero? Why is what a parent enrolled him as when he was a child have any bearing on this?
“He's a liar. All the time. About everything.”
Sure. But he was still born in Hawaii to SA Dunham and BHO the elder.
You learned more about Joe the Plumber than BHO because the media serves as BHO’s attack dog.
Proof? OK. BHO was born in Hawaii. The State of Hawaii has officially made this known with formal pronouncement made under the GOP governor and with the issuance of a certified birth certificate.
Well, that was easy.
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