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...... In the 1980s, Samuelson’s overlapping-generations model was seized upon by Keynesian economists to serve as a microeconomic foundation for their favored theories and plans.The unfortunate weakness of Samuelson’s model is its assumption that a growing economy will produce continual population increase. .......

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I miss Joshlyn Elders. She wasn't afraid to speak her liberal mind -- she was a vocal and open book to how LIBERALS view the masses.

So.... the Clinton's had to kick their Attorney General (black female -- OMG! the damage done to identity politics) to the curb.

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"But I'm saying we are loosing the people who are going to pay my social security. And that bothers me." -- Joycelyn Elders

Joshlyn Elders, Surgeon General of the United States - September 8, 1993 – December 31, 1994

Elders: October 1993 regarding funding for AIDS research and the fact that most of us will probably die:

"We know most of the people that die with heart disease and cancer are our elderly population you know and we all will probably die with something sooner or later and we've been investing certainly in cancer and heart disease and I feel that we should continue, I'm not downplaying that. But I'm saying that we are losing the people that's going to pay my Social Security and that bothers me."

In January 1993, Bill Clinton appointed Joshlyn Elders the United States Surgeon General, making her the first African American and the second woman (following Antonia Novello) to hold the position. [Bill Clinton appointed Elders to be the Director of the Arkansas Department of Health - 1987].

She argued for an exploration of the possibility of drug legalization and backed the distribution of contraceptives in schools. President Clinton stood by Elders, saying that she was misunderstood......

In 1994, she was invited to speak at a United Nations conference on AIDS. She was asked whether it would be appropriate to promote masturbation as a means of preventing young people from engaging in riskier forms of sexual activity, and she replied, "I think that it is part of human sexuality, and perhaps it should be taught." This remark caused great controversy and resulted in Elders losing the support of the White House. White House chief of staff Leon Panetta remarked, "There have been too many areas where the President does not agree with her views. This is just one too many." Elders was fired by President Clinton as a result of the controversy in December 1994.

"Safer guns and safer bullets" probably didn't help her either.

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The only reason the Left wants to keep us "healthy," and the old and curable alive, is to fund Social Security. So Obama's Universal Health Care (that the Democrats have ruled we must join) is to keep people alive (until of course they cost too much to economically contribute to the rest) -- to sustain enough workers to continue funding (prop up) the system whereby Elites hold power for the continuance of Them through iron-clad control of our money and our lives.

1 posted on 09/12/2011 3:14:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Sept 7, 2011: 4 Minute YouTube VIDEO Clip: Perry Fires At Rove & Romney: Social Security Is A "Ponzi Scheme" And A "Monstrous Lie"

Perry Campaign: Remember When Romney Compared Social Security to a Criminal Enterprise? [quote from Romney's book] " What would happen to the bankers responsible for misusing the money? They would go to jail. But what has happened to the people responsible for the looming bankruptcy of Social Security? They keep returning to Congress every two years.” [end quote]

Sept 10, 2011 Mitt flier: Perry 'wants to kill Social Security' (being distributed in Florida)


2 posted on 09/12/2011 3:33:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Our historical tour of the claim that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme confirms what we already knew: Rick Perry’s remarks are uncharacteristically bold for a politician, most especially a candidate in the midst of a presidential race. Yet Perry’s Ponzi-scheme claim is in no way unprecedented. On the contrary, the Ponzi comparison has been a staple of conservative warnings about Social Security’s financial soundness for decades. More intriguing, the Ponzi scheme analogy was popularized by a liberal Nobel Laureate economist, who initially offered it as a defense of the system, acknowledging only later that his defense was at least partially flawed. In the decades that followed, many honest liberals have made the Ponzi scheme comparison in the course of calling for systemic reform. Those liberals have bemoaned bipartisan deception and timidity on the Social Security issue, and praised those rare and courageous political souls, such as Alan Simpson, who were willing and able to call a Ponzi scheme by its real name.
--From the article.

Maybe at the next debate Perry should say: "The truth? You want the truth? You can't handle the truth."

8 posted on 09/12/2011 3:52:54 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You would think Rick Perry was the first one to call Social Security a Ponzi Scheme.


10 posted on 09/12/2011 3:55:26 AM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way..")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry can easily combat the critics about his use of the word “ponzi”.

All he has to say is “while I believe Social Security was unconstitutional when set up and resembles any modern ponzi scheme, it was ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court and being that is the case, we have to fix the problems within it to make it solvent for future generations. There are people of working age and of healthy body scamming the system, causing it to go broke. We will find these people scamming the system and deal with them appropriately”.

12 posted on 09/12/2011 3:56:03 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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Why do you not rebut the Romney post you put up?

If Rick Perry cannot dislodge the RINO Romney
he has absolutely ZERO chance against Obama.


16 posted on 09/12/2011 3:58:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Fact:All of us are going to die. If you die before you’ve contributed enough to the Ponzi Scheme that is Social Security, that means (hopefully) you won’t be drawing upon it either. I don’t expect see anything from it when I retire, in any case.

Fact: There are two kinds of people; those who masturbate and those who lie about it. The teaching (or not) of such however, should be left to parents.

Fact: Drugs are substances only, and actions undertaken upon partaking of such are the responsibility of those who partake, period. We have laws to penalize those who harm others. Just as one who commits robbery or murder because the victim was “X” shouldn’t incur more stringent penalties on the basis of “hate”, neither should the one who partakes in any “prohibited” substance be called to account unless their actions cause direct harm to others in society. It’s all about personal responsibility, folks. “Hate Crimes” legislation doesn’t make sense. Neither does legislation that imprisons fellow citizens solely on the basis of their ingesting substances which are deemed off-limits according to the current War on (some) Drugs as being “too dangerous for availability”, and that being determined via often faulty, special-interest-biased “research” on such. Just as it doesn’t matter what you were “thinking” when you knifed the dude in the parking lot of the 7-11, it doesn’t matter how you were “feeling” when you plowed your car over a curb and into a cluster of Code Pink protesters after a half dozen shots of tequila and a few bowls of premium hydro. Stupid is as stupid does. And merits its just reward.

FJ


19 posted on 09/12/2011 4:00:26 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (He's "Too Black to Fail")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Somehow, it seems that common sense, asking people to “do the math” ..... or actually doing it for them .... is viewed as an insult, a career ending gaffe, something for which one needs to apologize for.

Perhaps with legislators in Washington who believe a Marine barracks on a Japanese island will capsize the island it has become impossible to underestimate the intelligence of the mean IQ inside the beltway .... or of the electorate for that matter

Is this how it all ends?


28 posted on 09/12/2011 4:27:48 AM PDT by Mobties (RCHN)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The unfortunate weakness of Samuelson’s model is its assumption that a growing economy will produce continual population increase. In an April 1978 follow-up in Newsweek to his original 1967 column, Samuelson acknowledged that demographic reality was disproving this assumption. Samuelson repeated his use of the Ponzi analogy and continued to defend his hopes for Social Security as best he could. While Samuelson hung onto some slim indications in 1977 that U.S. fertility might be on the upswing, it grew increasingly clear to critics that the post–Baby Boom decline in births was not going to be reversed. Increasingly, Samuelson’s Ponzi-scheme analogy was seized upon by those who doubted Social Security’s long-term soundness.

So, in other words, the leftist 'Save the Earth by killing off it's Human infection' crowd has now doomed Social Security.

Liberals are truly the cause of every disaster in the world.

45 posted on 09/12/2011 6:22:10 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here is an article. I don't believe we are allowed to post USA Today on it's own thread due to USAToday's demands...

Rick Perry: I am going to be honest with the American people

46 posted on 09/12/2011 7:17:29 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BTTT!


50 posted on 09/12/2011 6:54:28 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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