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What Jewish Forums are saying about New York Election:
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Posted on 09/14/2011 7:02:10 AM PDT by MNDude

I looked up to see what Jewish Forums are saying about the New York Election. Enjoy:


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KEYWORDS: election; judeophobia; kenyanbornmuzzie; newyork; snub; weinerdistrict
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New York’s 9th Congressional District (Brooklyn and Queens) is gearing up for the September 13, 2011 special election to fill the seat vacated by disgraced Democrat Anthony Weiner. Koppelman, a Holocaust survivor who has lived her American life in the district, is a devout Jewish mother and grandmother, with family in both Israel and America. Like many of her generation, she’s also a devout Democrat. Until now. - - - “I have never voted for a Republican in my life” she says. But in this election, “I don’t even care who the Democrat is; I am voting Republican to show Obama I am upset with his policy on Israel.” - - -

Someone smarter than I recently said: "if you voted for Obama to prove you weren't a racist, you now have to vote for anyone else to prove you are not stupid." - - -

I ALWAYS tell Jews in America to vote for whoever is best for AMERICA, as it is up to Israel to take care of herself and we can't expect the American President (whoever he/she is) to be more of a Zionist than our own leaders. However, even when taking Israel out of the picture, I don't see why anyone would re-elect Obama.... - - -

Dems worried that their court Jews are fleeing the palace. - - -

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/20...a/#more-767381

It’s true most Jews are not single-issue voters who only care about Israel. Many are die-hard liberals who will never vote for a Republican no matter how often Obama offended Jewish sensibilities on Israel. But some Jewish centrists and even some liberals are not indifferent to the fact Israelis consider Obama to be the least friendly American president in recent memory. Add in the fact that, like most Americans, Jewish voters understand Obama is an indecisive leader who inherited a shaky economy and made it worse, and that’s a recipe for potential electoral disaster. The one factor Democrats still have going for them is that most liberal Jews are still far more fearful of pro-Israel evangelical Christians because of their stand on church-state separation than they are of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah or even al-Qaeda. That means a candidate like Rick Perry will likely struggle to improve on John McCain’s poor showing among Jewish voters in 2008 despite doubts about Obama on Israel. That will mean the Democrat “message” to Jews will have far more to do with scaremongering about evangelicals as well as the usual liberal Medicare tactics about entitlement cuts than it will about Obama’s virtues. But that doesn’t necessarily solve Democratic fundraising woes or save weak congressional candidates like David Weprin in NY-9. - - -

"My personal opinion is that Obama could vote for Palestinian Statehood later this month and still get over 50% of the American Jewish vote. Ideology is thicker than blood." Unfortunately, I think you are right. If 78% of Jews could vote for Obama after finding out that his religious mentor blamed 9/11 on Jews, they will vote for him again. - - -

I don't think District 9 is representative of other Jewish communities in the US. True, Obama will not get 78% of the Jewish vote again, but somewhere between 50-65%, which is unacceptable. - - -

I wonder if they would ever give their money to Romney or Perry; both of whom are leagues above Obama in support for Israel. Probably not, but one can always dream - - -

Obama Loses ‘PA Referendum’ in NY Election Republican Bob Turner won an upset in NY’s strongly Democratic 9th district in a special election that focused on Obama’s views of Israel. The ninth district, especially the Orthodox Jewish community, voted strongly for President Obama in 2008 but now gives him an approval rating of only 13 percent, largely because of his backing of the Palestinian Authority.

1 posted on 09/14/2011 7:02:17 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude

Obama will not get the level of support of 2008 among any constituency and I would put blacks in there as well. They will stay home. He is a LOSER.


2 posted on 09/14/2011 7:08:18 AM PDT by juliej
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To: juliej

>>Obama will not get the level of support of 2008 among any constituency and I would put blacks in there as well. They will stay home. He is a LOSER.<<

I agree with you about the Jewish vote — barry the zero’s obvious siding with anti-Israel forces has FINALLY made its way to the electorate.

As for Blacks — yes, the vote will go down from 98% to 97.7754%


3 posted on 09/14/2011 7:12:12 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (California: Making Texas more Conservative one voter at a time)
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To: juliej

This will ripple through EVERY Jewish community....... the talk this week at Temple will be about taking a look at supporting a local Repubican as well as the national election. The next debate if I am a candidate I bring up some Israel issues.... the focus on Republicans is NOW!


4 posted on 09/14/2011 7:13:06 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: juliej

I’ll give the Jewish vote some possibility. But forget the blacks. Ain’t gonna happen. 95%+

And watch them take to the streets if he loses.

The Dem party would like some challengers, but they are seriously scared of a white person opposing him. They have created and fanned so much racial hatred into the mix with him, that they have monster on their hands. Poetic justice for certain.


5 posted on 09/14/2011 7:13:42 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: freedumb2003

Yes, I doubt Colin Powell will vote for Obama again.


6 posted on 09/14/2011 7:15:52 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Interesting point, I hadn’t thought of that. It does kind of paint them into a corner doesn’t it.


7 posted on 09/14/2011 7:17:14 AM PDT by onona (You might like Steve Earle's song "Galway Girl".....oh alright, it's for Sharon Shannon !!)
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To: MNDude

Did you hear Wasserman-Schnootz’s comment about the NY election? She said 3 utterly inane things. I can only paraphrase. Something like (1) “those people, (referring to the voters in the NY 9 district) if they weren’t so ignorant about Israel, would know that Obama is the best choice for them”, and also (2) “those Jews are not like my Jews [in my district] and finally said something like (3) [implying that off-year elections aren’t indicative of anything in particular] “off-year elections are almost inevitably driven by citizens and residents and voters in the election area”.


8 posted on 09/14/2011 7:17:51 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: juliej
"Obama will not get the level of support of 2008 among any constituency and I would put blacks in there as well. They will stay home. He is a LOSER."

Don't bet on it. Between the white guilt - Jewish - Black - Hispanic base

Obama can always count on that base to consistently vote Democrat.

Published 05.11.08 Barack Obama wins 77 percent of Jewish vote, exit polls show

OP-ED: Why Jews voted for Obama

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2008/11/05/1000800/op-ed-why-jews-voted-for-obama

9 posted on 09/14/2011 7:20:14 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: MetaThought
Yes, I doubt Colin Powell will vote for Obama again.

Of course he will . . . he's an affirmative action racist from the word go . . . a clear example of the sick results of affirmative action . . .

10 posted on 09/14/2011 7:23:40 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: juliej

This is HUGE. Maybe even signifying a sea change in the demographics of the vote makeup in New York State. To take Chuck Schumer’s old seat, not only the combination of Weiner’s escapades and the anti-Israeli positions of the current and now failing obama regime, is but a sign of the growing integration of Orthodox Jews into the fabric of the American mainstream.

For years, the urban Jewish population has held itself apart from the principles and traditions of the Protestant and Catholic hordes that surround them, perhaps in remembrance of the painful past their forefathers has suffered in Europe. But once in America, many of these old stereotypes began to fade, with the awakening of the spirit of what is uniquely American in the hearts and minds of these sons of previous immigrations.

America has been the shining beacon on the hill. Though the illumination has become somewhat dimmed of recent years, we can and will shine forth again, if anything, even more brightly than before.

But first, let us remember we are Americans.


11 posted on 09/14/2011 7:24:14 AM PDT by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: freedumb2003
There ARE blacks who will be "busy watching TV" on election day but there are many, many others who would walk over broken glass to reelect this fraud!

Considering how truly bad he's been on their race, doesn't matter one whit to them; the fact that he never "lived black" doesn't matter; what matters is skin color, that and promises of more of "his stash!"

12 posted on 09/14/2011 7:26:33 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: MNDude
The majority of American Jews are just secular leftists — ideology trumps religion and support for Israel's right to exist. They will vote for Obama again 70%+...it's the campaign cash that may be harder to get from them this time.
13 posted on 09/14/2011 7:27:20 AM PDT by twister881
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To: dfwgator

This thread needs some Mel Brooks. I defer to your judgement.


14 posted on 09/14/2011 7:28:47 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: All

Obama will receive the same percentage of the black vote in the next election, the difference will be the number of blacks that are willing to stand in line for more than 5 minutes to vote for him.


15 posted on 09/14/2011 7:28:47 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Maverick68
I suspect the vote had more to do with reacting to the Weiner disgrace than anything else.
16 posted on 09/14/2011 7:30:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: twister881

“He really didn’t mean it;” America’s Jews back Obama’s Marxism over Israel’s survival

By Coach Collins, on July 19th, 2011

By Kevin “Coach” Collins

When Barack Hussein Obama suggested a suicidal return to pre- 1967 borders as the way to lasting peace for Israel the politically uninitiated assumed America’s Jews would turn on him and withdraw their support for his re-election. This silliness lasted for a few weeks until prominent elected Jewish Democrats visited Jewish old age homes and other meeting places to reassure them they had not really heard what they heard and saw.

Rahm Emanuel, one of Obama’s favorite “Jewish policemen”, was called in to do damage control and actually said, “That statement [Obama’s 1967 border remark]does not mean a return to 1967 borders.” The great Groucho Marx line, “Who are you going to believe; me or your lyin’ eyes?” comes to mind.

Gallup certifies what we knew was coming

Now that several months have passed since Obama told Bibi Netanyahu that Israel’s suicide would be his best course of action, the few American Jews (overwhelmingly registered Democrats) who expressed some measurable disapproval of Obama have wiped the spittle from their eyes and returned to the Democrat plantation.

Gallup’s most recent poll tells us the “great escape” of Jews from Obama’s trance is over. The survey found the level of support versus disapproval of Obama among American Jews is statistically the same today as it was in March....

Read at:

http://www.coachisright.com/%E2%80%9Che-really-didn%E2%80%99t-mean-it%E2%80%9D-america%E2%80%99s-jews-back-obama%E2%80%99s-marxism-over-israel%E2%80%99s-survival/#


17 posted on 09/14/2011 7:30:18 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: MNDude
Israelis consider Obama to be the least friendly American president in recent memory.

Least friendly? He freak’n hates Israel and he insulted and snubbed the Israeli prime minister. Obama and his fellow “think-alikes” are a disaster! Come on 2012!

18 posted on 09/14/2011 7:30:24 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: MNDude

Jews didn’t just vote for a Republican. They voted for a Catholic Republican over an Orthodox Jewish democrat who never said anything bad about Israel. That’s what is crazy about this election.


19 posted on 09/14/2011 7:31:14 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: MNDude
"Nope, no campaign donation in here. Next time the Israeli prime minister visits the White Smoke House, I'll have him cool his heels while I eat dinner, then make him leave out the back way by the trash piles...oh wait, I already did that."


20 posted on 09/14/2011 7:41:24 AM PDT by twister881
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To: ari-freedom

The dems ran a guy who doesn’t even live in the district.
They showed how they take the Jewish vote for granted.
Hope they do the same in 2012. Hope they aim at the Independents and assume they have the black and the Jewish vote.
Obummer will make more token promises to pay all the utility bills in the ghetto and those voters will believe him again and again.
they were raised to support a “brother” over common sense.


21 posted on 09/14/2011 7:42:27 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: ChildOfThe60s
But forget the blacks. Ain’t gonna happen. 95%+

Ninety five percent of those who vote will vote for Obama, but he has a turnout problem here.

Obama is beginning to embarrass blacks. They are tiring of defending him. He's obviously over his head, and his character is being found wanting in the black community.

Some I know are afraid he will embarrass them further. Will they vote Republican? No. But they will stay home in numbers significant enough to hurt Obama's chances, IMHO.

22 posted on 09/14/2011 7:45:22 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: montyspython

23 posted on 09/14/2011 7:45:59 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
And watch them take to the streets if he loses.

I really don't see it.

The rioting types expected lots of freebies from Obama, and they got nothing but more unemployment and rising bills. He didn't pay their rent and he didn't get them any reparations either.

Look for the "half-white" talk to pick up as they just apathetically walk away from the hopechangy dream and wait for a "real brother" they can get behind.

Everybody's going to call for a do-over on the first black president thing.

24 posted on 09/14/2011 7:49:51 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ari-freedom

In my admittedly limited viewpoint, based on observation of liberal Jews, their support of democRats has been based on an anti-Christian dominant cultural tendency. The ‘rats have in all recent history, been all about deconstructing the Christian dominance in Western society, and the liberal Jews were all for that, because Christians are “the enemy” for some reason.

However, now the ‘rats have elected a pro-Islamist, truly (not perceived) antisemite as president, and they just MIGHT see that that is a REAL threat, not a generationally passed down bogeyman threat. “Oh no! The Christians are coming! With their New Testaments!”


25 posted on 09/14/2011 7:52:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MNDude
"if you voted for Obama to prove you weren't a racist, you now have to vote for anyone else to prove you are not stupid."

Good one!

26 posted on 09/14/2011 7:53:07 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: dead

They may riot, but it will probably be confined to their own neighborhoods and to some isolated flashm[r]ob activity. I see no threat of them invading the suburbs to kill whitey.


27 posted on 09/14/2011 7:53:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MNDude

the 9th New York is a one third Jewish district, I’d like to see a demographic exit poll if anyone sees one

it took more than the Jewish Israel reaction vote for this outcome


28 posted on 09/14/2011 7:53:28 AM PDT by wardaddy (, Dick Cheney ....get his book...he should have been President)
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To: wayoverontheright
He's obviously over his head, and his character is being found wanting in the black community.
Some I know are afraid he will embarrass them further.

In a community with 70% out of wedlock births, and incarceration rates six times higher than for whites, Obama's character is found wanting and he is an embarrassment. This might be his greatest achievement.

29 posted on 09/14/2011 7:55:08 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ("Nanny Care State" is not a Division 3 football powerhouse.)
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To: MetaThought

I doubt that anyone is ever going to care two hoots about what Colin Powell thinks again. I turned on the television one Sunday morning in October 2008 to “breaking news” on his endorsement. It was the most self-serving, whiny, steaming pile of BS I ever heard packed into so few words. Any respect I ever had for Powell went down the Johnny Flusher permanently right then and there.


30 posted on 09/14/2011 7:55:13 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
The Dem party would like some challengers, but they are seriously scared of a white person opposing him.

This is why there could never be a primary challenge. The only way out for the dems would be for Obozo to feign some sort of life-threatening disease. With only a short time left, he wants to spend the time with his family. By the time the public realizes that he has plagiarized the modus operandus of the Lockerbie Bomber, the election will be over. Indeed, his return to excellent health could be promoted as a resurrection, as a second coming of sorts for the Chosen One.

31 posted on 09/14/2011 8:00:58 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ("Nanny Care State" is not a Division 3 football powerhouse.)
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To: alloysteel
The voters are now having a point brought home to them: "Voting for socialism will eventually result in YOUR PERSONAL financial destruction".

It's one thing to vote for socialism when it's just an ideological feel-good thing. It's a whole different story when your own income and assets, and those of your children, are on the line.

32 posted on 09/14/2011 8:02:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: juliej

That will mean the Democrat “message” to Jews will have far more to do with scaremongering about evangelicals as well as the usual liberal Medicare tactics about entitlement cuts than it will about Obama’s virtues.


Looks to me like American Jews are stuck with the racist Obama and his minions until they love American freedom and life more than they hate Christians.


33 posted on 09/14/2011 8:06:44 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: PapaBear3625

This is another version of “make them feel the consequences of their ideology”.


34 posted on 09/14/2011 8:11:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MetaThought
Collin Powell will make a lot of noise, but in the end he will show his racist solidarity by voting for the Marxist, Barry Soetoro Hussein Obozo.

To think the Republican elites considered Powell as POTUS material once. Brrrrr. What an ugly image THAT is.

35 posted on 09/14/2011 8:16:50 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Maverick68

Yeah, I’ll agree with that. If we’re talking percentage it’s a pipe dream he’d decline more then a percent or two.

But if we’re remembering more black people voted in that election just because he was on the ticket that hadn’t ever voted well...it’s possible they might stay home.

I’m a little in shock Jewish voters finally held him to account for his Israel policy. Obama is on par with Carter on his anti-semetic policies but despite complaints they’d stuck with him so far. The economy and gay marriage vote put them over the edge.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 8:20:34 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: freedumb2003

“As for Blacks — yes, the vote will go down from 98% to 97.7754%”

0bama could sacrifice live babies on a Satanic altar on the WH lawn on prime time tv and the 0bamazombies would still vote for him.


37 posted on 09/14/2011 8:34:13 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
(2) “those Jews are not like my Jews [in my district]

Yes, D W-S, they aren't!! They ELECTED you and that is dumb, because your full time residence is Maryland!!!

D W-S, calling people IGNORANT is really classy!!

38 posted on 09/14/2011 8:34:50 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Palin/Bachman 2012....What would the NAGS say? :-))
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To: MNDude

I’ll never forget those photos of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu exiting the White House by trash cans, or the photos of him looking like he was in despair because of Obama’s ill treatment of him. That was so upsetting to me, Israel is our friend and ally and should be treated as such!

God bless Israel!!!


39 posted on 09/14/2011 8:45:50 AM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Interesting point!


40 posted on 09/14/2011 8:47:32 AM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I suspect the vote had more to do with reacting to the Weiner disgrace than anything else.

Since you're from the "Show Me" state...and since this is EXACTLY what Weiner did....I understand your erroneous suspicion.

41 posted on 09/14/2011 8:55:45 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Wasserman-Loudmouth is a female Weiner. I hated to see/hear him on TV because of the horrible Dem line he spouted, talking over any opposition like a good Dem. Wasserman-Snoots is like that--TOTALLY OBNOXIOUS.

I CANNOT figure the Jews. I guess it has to do with their feeling of always having been the underdog and the Dem line of "compassion for the little people". Why aren't they smart enough to see through that ? They do not even seem to understand the concept of liberty and responsibility. Yet, Israel was built on faith, hard work, responsibility, sacrifice, and a longing for a place of their own.

vaudine

42 posted on 09/14/2011 8:57:23 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Roccus

You need to have your head examined.


43 posted on 09/14/2011 9:03:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
And watch them take to the streets if he loses.

If that must happen, let it be before we are disarmed.

44 posted on 09/14/2011 9:06:12 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I( already did....they found nothing.


45 posted on 09/14/2011 9:09:07 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I think the time is ripe for a Republican nominee to speak directly to blacks and make the case that they were better off before Democrat policies destroyed the central black families and put half their kids into the unemployed ranks.

They have to live in the areas terrorized by black gangs and now by black flash mobs (not that all flash mobs are black) and the right message, coupled with honest intentions, could be received favorably, especially now that they have seen that even a black Democrat could not reverse their fortunes, and indeed apparently even accelerated the descent toward utter hopelessness.

America is a better country than this. We can pass policies that reverse both the destruction of the black family and the unemployment of black youth. Democrats can’t, but we can. Policies exist that will reverse both trends, but to implement them a Republican candidate has to first hold them, then explain them to the people to whom they matter most, then get elected promising to implement them, and finally, pass them into law.


46 posted on 09/14/2011 9:10:20 AM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Ayep, on all counts

Espcially them takin it to the streets...and when they be done burnin down their own cribs...they gonna come after whitey’s...count on it.


47 posted on 09/14/2011 9:10:20 AM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: dead
Look for the "half-white" talk to pick up as they just apathetically walk away from the hopechangy dream and wait for a "real brother" they can get behind.

VP Herman Cain, or Col. West in 2020?

48 posted on 09/14/2011 9:10:29 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: alloysteel
America has been the shining beacon on the hill. Though the illumination has become somewhat dimmed of recent years, we can and will shine forth again, if anything, even more brightly than before.

But first, let us remember we are Americans.

May God bless and keep Israel and America.

49 posted on 09/14/2011 9:10:34 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Norseman
(not that all flash mobs are black)

Yeah, but the other ones usually sing, dance and disrupt traffic!

50 posted on 09/14/2011 9:14:46 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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