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Posted on 09/14/2011 7:02:10 AM PDT by MNDude
I looked up to see what Jewish Forums are saying about the New York Election. Enjoy:
Someone smarter than I recently said: "if you voted for Obama to prove you weren't a racist, you now have to vote for anyone else to prove you are not stupid." - - -
I ALWAYS tell Jews in America to vote for whoever is best for AMERICA, as it is up to Israel to take care of herself and we can't expect the American President (whoever he/she is) to be more of a Zionist than our own leaders. However, even when taking Israel out of the picture, I don't see why anyone would re-elect Obama.... - - -
Dems worried that their court Jews are fleeing the palace. - - -
Its true most Jews are not single-issue voters who only care about Israel. Many are die-hard liberals who will never vote for a Republican no matter how often Obama offended Jewish sensibilities on Israel. But some Jewish centrists and even some liberals are not indifferent to the fact Israelis consider Obama to be the least friendly American president in recent memory. Add in the fact that, like most Americans, Jewish voters understand Obama is an indecisive leader who inherited a shaky economy and made it worse, and thats a recipe for potential electoral disaster. The one factor Democrats still have going for them is that most liberal Jews are still far more fearful of pro-Israel evangelical Christians because of their stand on church-state separation than they are of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah or even al-Qaeda. That means a candidate like Rick Perry will likely struggle to improve on John McCains poor showing among Jewish voters in 2008 despite doubts about Obama on Israel. That will mean the Democrat message to Jews will have far more to do with scaremongering about evangelicals as well as the usual liberal Medicare tactics about entitlement cuts than it will about Obamas virtues. But that doesnt necessarily solve Democratic fundraising woes or save weak congressional candidates like David Weprin in NY-9. - - -
"My personal opinion is that Obama could vote for Palestinian Statehood later this month and still get over 50% of the American Jewish vote. Ideology is thicker than blood." Unfortunately, I think you are right. If 78% of Jews could vote for Obama after finding out that his religious mentor blamed 9/11 on Jews, they will vote for him again. - - -
I don't think District 9 is representative of other Jewish communities in the US. True, Obama will not get 78% of the Jewish vote again, but somewhere between 50-65%, which is unacceptable. - - -
I wonder if they would ever give their money to Romney or Perry; both of whom are leagues above Obama in support for Israel. Probably not, but one can always dream - - -
Obama Loses PA Referendum in NY Election Republican Bob Turner won an upset in NYs strongly Democratic 9th district in a special election that focused on Obamas views of Israel. The ninth district, especially the Orthodox Jewish community, voted strongly for President Obama in 2008 but now gives him an approval rating of only 13 percent, largely because of his backing of the Palestinian Authority.
Obama will not get the level of support of 2008 among any constituency and I would put blacks in there as well. They will stay home. He is a LOSER.
>>Obama will not get the level of support of 2008 among any constituency and I would put blacks in there as well. They will stay home. He is a LOSER.<<
I agree with you about the Jewish vote — barry the zero’s obvious siding with anti-Israel forces has FINALLY made its way to the electorate.
As for Blacks — yes, the vote will go down from 98% to 97.7754%
This will ripple through EVERY Jewish community....... the talk this week at Temple will be about taking a look at supporting a local Repubican as well as the national election. The next debate if I am a candidate I bring up some Israel issues.... the focus on Republicans is NOW!
I’ll give the Jewish vote some possibility. But forget the blacks. Ain’t gonna happen. 95%+
And watch them take to the streets if he loses.
The Dem party would like some challengers, but they are seriously scared of a white person opposing him. They have created and fanned so much racial hatred into the mix with him, that they have monster on their hands. Poetic justice for certain.
Yes, I doubt Colin Powell will vote for Obama again.
Interesting point, I hadn’t thought of that. It does kind of paint them into a corner doesn’t it.
Did you hear Wasserman-Schnootz’s comment about the NY election? She said 3 utterly inane things. I can only paraphrase. Something like (1) “those people, (referring to the voters in the NY 9 district) if they weren’t so ignorant about Israel, would know that Obama is the best choice for them”, and also (2) “those Jews are not like my Jews [in my district] and finally said something like (3) [implying that off-year elections aren’t indicative of anything in particular] “off-year elections are almost inevitably driven by citizens and residents and voters in the election area”.
Don't bet on it. Between the white guilt - Jewish - Black - Hispanic base
Obama can always count on that base to consistently vote Democrat.
Published 05.11.08 Barack Obama wins 77 percent of Jewish vote, exit polls show
OP-ED: Why Jews voted for Obama
Of course he will . . . he's an affirmative action racist from the word go . . . a clear example of the sick results of affirmative action . . .
This is HUGE. Maybe even signifying a sea change in the demographics of the vote makeup in New York State. To take Chuck Schumer’s old seat, not only the combination of Weiner’s escapades and the anti-Israeli positions of the current and now failing obama regime, is but a sign of the growing integration of Orthodox Jews into the fabric of the American mainstream.
For years, the urban Jewish population has held itself apart from the principles and traditions of the Protestant and Catholic hordes that surround them, perhaps in remembrance of the painful past their forefathers has suffered in Europe. But once in America, many of these old stereotypes began to fade, with the awakening of the spirit of what is uniquely American in the hearts and minds of these sons of previous immigrations.
America has been the shining beacon on the hill. Though the illumination has become somewhat dimmed of recent years, we can and will shine forth again, if anything, even more brightly than before.
But first, let us remember we are Americans.
Considering how truly bad he's been on their race, doesn't matter one whit to them; the fact that he never "lived black" doesn't matter; what matters is skin color, that and promises of more of "his stash!"
This thread needs some Mel Brooks. I defer to your judgement.
Obama will receive the same percentage of the black vote in the next election, the difference will be the number of blacks that are willing to stand in line for more than 5 minutes to vote for him.
He really didnt mean it; Americas Jews back Obamas Marxism over Israels survival
By Coach Collins, on July 19th, 2011
By Kevin Coach Collins
When Barack Hussein Obama suggested a suicidal return to pre- 1967 borders as the way to lasting peace for Israel the politically uninitiated assumed Americas Jews would turn on him and withdraw their support for his re-election. This silliness lasted for a few weeks until prominent elected Jewish Democrats visited Jewish old age homes and other meeting places to reassure them they had not really heard what they heard and saw.
Rahm Emanuel, one of Obamas favorite Jewish policemen, was called in to do damage control and actually said, That statement [Obamas 1967 border remark]does not mean a return to 1967 borders. The great Groucho Marx line, Who are you going to believe; me or your lyin eyes? comes to mind.
Gallup certifies what we knew was coming
Now that several months have passed since Obama told Bibi Netanyahu that Israels suicide would be his best course of action, the few American Jews (overwhelmingly registered Democrats) who expressed some measurable disapproval of Obama have wiped the spittle from their eyes and returned to the Democrat plantation.
Gallups most recent poll tells us the great escape of Jews from Obamas trance is over. The survey found the level of support versus disapproval of Obama among American Jews is statistically the same today as it was in March....
Least friendly? He freak’n hates Israel and he insulted and snubbed the Israeli prime minister. Obama and his fellow “think-alikes” are a disaster! Come on 2012!
Jews didn’t just vote for a Republican. They voted for a Catholic Republican over an Orthodox Jewish democrat who never said anything bad about Israel. That’s what is crazy about this election.
The dems ran a guy who doesn’t even live in the district.
They showed how they take the Jewish vote for granted.
Hope they do the same in 2012. Hope they aim at the Independents and assume they have the black and the Jewish vote.
Obummer will make more token promises to pay all the utility bills in the ghetto and those voters will believe him again and again.
they were raised to support a “brother” over common sense.
Ninety five percent of those who vote will vote for Obama, but he has a turnout problem here.
Obama is beginning to embarrass blacks. They are tiring of defending him. He's obviously over his head, and his character is being found wanting in the black community.
Some I know are afraid he will embarrass them further. Will they vote Republican? No. But they will stay home in numbers significant enough to hurt Obama's chances, IMHO.
I really don't see it.
The rioting types expected lots of freebies from Obama, and they got nothing but more unemployment and rising bills. He didn't pay their rent and he didn't get them any reparations either.
Look for the "half-white" talk to pick up as they just apathetically walk away from the hopechangy dream and wait for a "real brother" they can get behind.
Everybody's going to call for a do-over on the first black president thing.
In my admittedly limited viewpoint, based on observation of liberal Jews, their support of democRats has been based on an anti-Christian dominant cultural tendency. The ‘rats have in all recent history, been all about deconstructing the Christian dominance in Western society, and the liberal Jews were all for that, because Christians are “the enemy” for some reason.
However, now the ‘rats have elected a pro-Islamist, truly (not perceived) antisemite as president, and they just MIGHT see that that is a REAL threat, not a generationally passed down bogeyman threat. “Oh no! The Christians are coming! With their New Testaments!”
They may riot, but it will probably be confined to their own neighborhoods and to some isolated flashm[r]ob activity. I see no threat of them invading the suburbs to kill whitey.
the 9th New York is a one third Jewish district, I’d like to see a demographic exit poll if anyone sees one
it took more than the Jewish Israel reaction vote for this outcome
In a community with 70% out of wedlock births, and incarceration rates six times higher than for whites, Obama's character is found wanting and he is an embarrassment. This might be his greatest achievement.
I doubt that anyone is ever going to care two hoots about what Colin Powell thinks again. I turned on the television one Sunday morning in October 2008 to “breaking news” on his endorsement. It was the most self-serving, whiny, steaming pile of BS I ever heard packed into so few words. Any respect I ever had for Powell went down the Johnny Flusher permanently right then and there.
This is why there could never be a primary challenge. The only way out for the dems would be for Obozo to feign some sort of life-threatening disease. With only a short time left, he wants to spend the time with his family. By the time the public realizes that he has plagiarized the modus operandus of the Lockerbie Bomber, the election will be over. Indeed, his return to excellent health could be promoted as a resurrection, as a second coming of sorts for the Chosen One.
It's one thing to vote for socialism when it's just an ideological feel-good thing. It's a whole different story when your own income and assets, and those of your children, are on the line.
That will mean the Democrat message to Jews will have far more to do with scaremongering about evangelicals as well as the usual liberal Medicare tactics about entitlement cuts than it will about Obamas virtues.
This is another version of “make them feel the consequences of their ideology”.
To think the Republican elites considered Powell as POTUS material once. Brrrrr. What an ugly image THAT is.
Yeah, I’ll agree with that. If we’re talking percentage it’s a pipe dream he’d decline more then a percent or two.
But if we’re remembering more black people voted in that election just because he was on the ticket that hadn’t ever voted well...it’s possible they might stay home.
I’m a little in shock Jewish voters finally held him to account for his Israel policy. Obama is on par with Carter on his anti-semetic policies but despite complaints they’d stuck with him so far. The economy and gay marriage vote put them over the edge.
“As for Blacks yes, the vote will go down from 98% to 97.7754%”
0bama could sacrifice live babies on a Satanic altar on the WH lawn on prime time tv and the 0bamazombies would still vote for him.
Yes, D W-S, they aren't!! They ELECTED you and that is dumb, because your full time residence is Maryland!!!
D W-S, calling people IGNORANT is really classy!!
I’ll never forget those photos of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu exiting the White House by trash cans, or the photos of him looking like he was in despair because of Obama’s ill treatment of him. That was so upsetting to me, Israel is our friend and ally and should be treated as such!
God bless Israel!!!
Since you're from the "Show Me" state...and since this is EXACTLY what Weiner did....I understand your erroneous suspicion.
I CANNOT figure the Jews. I guess it has to do with their feeling of always having been the underdog and the Dem line of "compassion for the little people". Why aren't they smart enough to see through that ? They do not even seem to understand the concept of liberty and responsibility. Yet, Israel was built on faith, hard work, responsibility, sacrifice, and a longing for a place of their own.
You need to have your head examined.
If that must happen, let it be before we are disarmed.
I( already did....they found nothing.
I think the time is ripe for a Republican nominee to speak directly to blacks and make the case that they were better off before Democrat policies destroyed the central black families and put half their kids into the unemployed ranks.
They have to live in the areas terrorized by black gangs and now by black flash mobs (not that all flash mobs are black) and the right message, coupled with honest intentions, could be received favorably, especially now that they have seen that even a black Democrat could not reverse their fortunes, and indeed apparently even accelerated the descent toward utter hopelessness.
America is a better country than this. We can pass policies that reverse both the destruction of the black family and the unemployment of black youth. Democrats can’t, but we can. Policies exist that will reverse both trends, but to implement them a Republican candidate has to first hold them, then explain them to the people to whom they matter most, then get elected promising to implement them, and finally, pass them into law.
Ayep, on all counts
Espcially them takin it to the streets...and when they be done burnin down their own cribs...they gonna come after whitey’s...count on it.
VP Herman Cain, or Col. West in 2020?
But first, let us remember we are Americans.
May God bless and keep Israel and America.
Yeah, but the other ones usually sing, dance and disrupt traffic!