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3 more murders linked to Gunwalker
CBS ^ | September 14, 2011 4:57 PM | By Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 09/14/2011 6:05:46 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear

Weapons linked to ATF's controversial "Fast and Furious" operation have been tied to at least eight violent crimes in Mexico including three murders, four kidnappings and an attempted homicide.

According to a letter from U.S. Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich to Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), the disclosed incidents may be only a partial list of violent crimes linked to Fast and Furious weapons because "ATF has not conducted a comprehensive independent investigation."

When added to the guns found at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in the U.S., the newly-revealed murders in Mexico bring the total number of deaths linked to Fast and Furious to four.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Minus_The_Bear.


21 posted on 09/14/2011 6:56:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: VikingMom

I wouldn’t be surprised if someday soon down the road we find the MSM broadsiding Obama worse than they did, and do Palin.

I have a hunch the MSM, a fickle lot of Leftists are being encouraged to do so by certain behind the scenes players. The lot of players that got Obama where he is I believe are ready for some hope and change.

I believe Hillary is running around behind the scenes trying to convince some of those players to “Look at me, look at me!”


22 posted on 09/14/2011 7:16:14 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Ornithologists tag birds to study where they are flying to. Scientists can get some useful information from that, and nobody gets killed in the process.

However what kind of information those guys were even hoping to get from selling weapons to criminals? Anyone with an intellect at or above an average hare can tell that those weapons will end up at crime scenes, since that's what they are bought for.

Is there anything of value to be learned from the knowledge that those weapons are trafficked to various states of the USA and Mexico? I doubt that. Goods naturally move from places where they are available to places where they are needed.

Is there anyone in particular who could be tied to a purchase and a consequent crime? I doubt that too. The weapon was most likely in many hands before it reached the soldiers of cartels, and nothing is known about those intermediaries (if they are even alive by now.)

So can the Justice dept. explain, in detail, what was that they were doing, what were they expecting to happen, and what happened in actuality. If they expected murders done with those weapons then they are guilty of murder as facilitators. If they haven't expected murders then they are incompetent and must be fired.

But I guess it's a pointless endeavor to try to find someone competent in that gang. Competence was bred out over decades of bureaucratic games, in an environment where anyone even minimally smart had to quit in disgust long time ago.

23 posted on 09/14/2011 7:21:16 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Poor reporting by CBS. “Project Gunrunner” was started in 2005. They should use the correct term, “Fast and Furious.”


24 posted on 09/14/2011 7:28:21 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

They are two different programs.


25 posted on 09/14/2011 7:32:18 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: freeangel

IN MEXICO.


26 posted on 09/14/2011 7:37:41 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Minus_The_Bear

We need a Special Prosecutor, Independent Counsel,, something.. this smells to high heaven

Targets, The BATF, DoJ, WH


27 posted on 09/14/2011 7:45:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Yes, so why does the title say “Gunwalker?”


28 posted on 09/14/2011 8:03:00 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Petruchio
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29 posted on 09/14/2011 8:11:01 PM PDT by mdel747
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To: NormsRevenge

30 posted on 09/14/2011 8:23:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Gunwalker” was the term coined by Dave Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh, a play on “Gunrunner,” since the ATF was “walking” the guns over the border as they put it. The reporter has picked up the useage.


31 posted on 09/14/2011 8:25:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Gunwalker” was the term coined by Dave Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh, a play on “Gunrunner,” since the ATF was “walking” the guns over the border as they put it. The reporter has picked up the useage.


32 posted on 09/14/2011 8:26:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the explanation. I confess that I was thinking of “Gunrunner” (2005). Still, I think this mix of the correct name (F&F) with the confusing “Gunwalker” with no explanation is a weird way to write an article that pretends to be factual.


33 posted on 09/14/2011 8:36:16 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
What's even worse is that the idiot congresscritters (GOP) that do the questioning at the hearings bandy about the terms Gunrunner, Gunwalker and F&F interchangably, giving the subjects of their questions room to wiggle and obfuscate short of purgery.....but hey, they sound like they know what they're talking about.
34 posted on 09/14/2011 9:56:46 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Roccus

Yep, thanks. Conservatives should use exact terms, not try to be clever by using cute but confusing terms. If they even know the difference, that is.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 10:48:30 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Guns don’t kill people. People kill people, especially when they’re criminals, and sometimes with guns provided by the ATF.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 11:49:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Barring a miracle, he has no chance in ‘12. Throw him under the bus and give Hillary a chance to save the party. The first black president is going to be the first president blatantly thrown under the bus by all the people who put him there.


37 posted on 09/15/2011 1:55:15 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Minus_The_Bear
I think what people need to realize is that this whole “fast and furious” operation was clearly meant to set the pretext for the Obama administration to sign on to the UN Treaty on Small Arms, which by its design (if it was ratified by the US), would eviscerate the second amendment. US citizens would, under this treaty, become subject to UN “gun control” policies.

That's how Barry intends to attack our gun rights. He's smart enough to understand that sponsoring a sweeping anti-gun bill in Congress is political suicide.

38 posted on 09/15/2011 3:52:35 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: Constitutional Patriot

A fact not lost on THIS reader. Anyne who remebers heaing the statements coming out of the State depatment and others a few years ago pushing for automatic weapons ban because ‘these guns are findig their way to Mexican gangs’ can see it VERY clearly.


39 posted on 09/15/2011 4:22:15 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: kevao

Even if a cartel member committed an act of murder in the WH using one of these guns, it would not make the headlines...

And in the interest in the common civility, this issue will not be a campaign topic in any debate or discussion anywhere. anytime...

How’s that to brighten yer day??? ;-)


40 posted on 09/15/2011 4:51:02 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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