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Amish men jailed for not displaying buggy (orange-red triangle) safety signs
Yahoo ^ | 9/14/11 | Steve Robrahn

Posted on 09/14/2011 10:50:46 PM PDT by Libloather

Amish men jailed for not displaying buggy safety signs
By Steve Robrahn | Reuters – 15 hrs ago

LOUISVILLE, Ky (Reuters) - Eight members of a traditional Amish sect were behind bars on Tuesday after refusing to pay fines for failure to display orange-red safety triangles on their horse-drawn buggies.

The eight were being held in the Graves County Jail, serving sentences ranging between three and 10 days for failing to pay the fines on religious grounds.

Graves District Judge Deborah Hawkins ordered the men jailed Monday in Mayfield, about 200 miles from Louisville in western Kentucky. The defendants contend that paying the fines would amount to complying with a law that violates their religious restrictions against wearing or displaying bright colors or relying upon man-made symbols for their safety.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amish; buggy; jailed; kentucky; ky; louisville; religiousfreedom; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution; safety
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To: Jonty30; hsalaw

“or not take their horse or carriages out after dark.”

an excellent solution if their consciences are so offended.


21 posted on 09/14/2011 11:24:32 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: runninglips

“Don’t want to be in public, wear that star on your sleeve....good Nazi.”

This kind of hyperbole is beneath FR.

Being required to have a reflective sign on a dark vehicle in the dead of night is hardly equivalent to having to wear a star signifying you are a Jew so you can be abused.


22 posted on 09/14/2011 11:25:58 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Winstons Julia

So why doesn’t someone simply come up with a reflective device that does not appear bright until the light hits it. I have seen grayish ones used on clothing in the oil patch. Is the orange part really necessary?


23 posted on 09/14/2011 11:26:14 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Winstons Julia

No they don’t want them in ovens, they want them to conform....like every other supposed free man in this country. Do they make bicycles have orange triangles? Walkers? The first step to perdition, is giving in to a “little common sense” govt regulation. License plates were for our protection too, then tabs, then yearly taxes, then for thefts, then for cops to access 24/7 info on owners at the touch of a button. Sorry, society is so far past just a little regulation, and it starts ever so small.


24 posted on 09/14/2011 11:29:03 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

The Amish should invent that and build factories to .... oh wait......


25 posted on 09/14/2011 11:33:08 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: All
Nothing in the article says anything about it being night-time terrorism...farming country usually requires those funny little signs to be used on highways for all agricultural vehicles...horses on the highway are not required to display them as far as I know...but, non-motorized regs vary from state to state.
26 posted on 09/14/2011 11:33:19 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: runninglips

*sigh*

Do we really need to spell this out for you? The carriages are using the roads at night.

Maybe you should go Amish.....


27 posted on 09/14/2011 11:36:01 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: runninglips

Nice to see someone actually gets it.


28 posted on 09/14/2011 11:38:17 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: Winstons Julia

Would Amish be copacetic with mounting kerosene lanterns on the back of their buggies? That would solve the nighttime visibility problem.


29 posted on 09/14/2011 11:39:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I really don’t know. I think someone upthread said that they do that... but the flame is low and not too visible.


30 posted on 09/14/2011 11:44:17 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Libloather


31 posted on 09/14/2011 11:45:58 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: Libloather; oneolcop




Scofflaws!

32 posted on 09/14/2011 11:46:43 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Winstons Julia
I'm not sure it needs to be invented, only adapted and allowed as a substitute for the bright orance device.

If getting reflective surfaces on the buggy to enhance visibility at night is the issue, it might be a solution.

Of course, the State would have to accept that the absence of orange really has little effect on seeing the buggy in daylight, and the Amish would have to accept something which though it did not appear as wordly, would enhance their safety and that of the vehicles which might hit them.

It's never simple, but it could be simpler.

It might be simpler yet if someone could devise a reflective surface which appeared to be black in daylight.

33 posted on 09/14/2011 11:47:30 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: BIGLOOK
Maybe, but the gray strips on the sides and the bottom of the back of the buggy look a lot like the Scotchlite strips We had on Fire Dept. turnout gear and have on oilfield coveralls.

Would an orange triangle make that vehicle more visible? Really?

34 posted on 09/14/2011 11:51:13 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thank goodness it didn’t escalate into a rake fight.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 11:54:11 PM PDT by wolfman
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To: Smokin' Joe; All

Really... the appearance of the horse apples on the road ought to tell an aware driver that there might be Amish ahead...

But that would require...

#attackwatch - AMISH AHEAD.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 11:57:20 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Winstons Julia

There are those of us who know enough to identify various deposits on the road and take a cue from that, but anyone who needs an orange triangle to tell them a vehicle is moving slowly probably doesn’t know their s**t well enough to take advantage of the obvious trail.


37 posted on 09/15/2011 12:17:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Do the Amish shun as too modern the thorium mantles which make kerosene lamps much brighter?


38 posted on 09/15/2011 12:20:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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This is no more offensive than expecting people to stop at red lights when driving. Trying to turn this into some kind of romanticized police state issue is childish. Anyone living in Amish country who drives understands the problem from personal experience. And the vast majority of Amish comply with the basic safety requirements.


39 posted on 09/15/2011 12:20:46 AM PDT by Da Mav
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To: Smokin' Joe

One could complain this is double trouble. Not only could a car driver come suddenly upon a buggy, but the manure slick behind it would make it harder for the car to stop in time.


40 posted on 09/15/2011 12:21:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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