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Poll: Perry Leads Romney by 7 Points
Weekly Standard ^ | Sept. 27, 2011 | Jeffrey H. Anderson

Posted on 09/17/2011 1:46:06 PM PDT by Clairity

A CBS News/New York Times poll taken from September 10th-15th (both before and after the most recent debate) shows Rick Perry with a 7-point edge (23 to 16 percent) over Mitt Romney among registered voters who intend to vote in a Republican primary or caucus.

Among the roughly half (49 percent) of Republican primary voters "who support the Tea Party movement," Perry has by far the highest net favorability rating (+53 percent),

Of note, Sarah Palin's net favorability rating is only +12 percent among Tea Party-supporting Republicans.

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KEYWORDS: 2011polls; 2012gopprimary; amnesty; elections; gardasil; nomorerinos; palin; perry; perry2012; rinorick; rinoromney; romney; teaparty; teapartyvsrinos
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Looks like most tea party Republicans have some common sense too and recognize that Perry is the most conservative electable Republican.
1 posted on 09/17/2011 1:46:16 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: shield

Perry ping


2 posted on 09/17/2011 1:47:03 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

This one thing I thought you would find interesting. I just don’t want you to get your hopes up quite yet. We still have a LONG primary season that has not even begun yet. Not one vote has been cast. Relax. If Perry is supposed to be our candidate he will be.....however, I really really really hope that Palin will be the next President of the United States.

About the same time in the last election cycle here is where the GOP presidential contenders stood:

GIULIANI 34%

THOMPSON 23%

MCCAIN 16%

ROMNEY 9%


3 posted on 09/17/2011 1:53:15 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Clairity

When Romney invokes the Magic Underpants this will change.

BOW DOWN before the underpants!


4 posted on 09/17/2011 1:53:15 PM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Clairity

Link to actual poll results:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2011/NYT_CBS_Republicans_0916.pdf

From the poll results statement:

“Sarah Palin receives her highest unfavorable rating (62%) in this poll since CBS News began asking about her in 2008. And for the first time, more Republicans now view her unfavorably than favorably.”

On page 4-5 of the poll:

View of Palin:

Among all registered voters: 20% fav, 62% unfav
Among Republican voters: 36% fave, 39% unfav
Among tea party: 44% fav, 32% unfav.


5 posted on 09/17/2011 1:55:12 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

Being the piñata at the last debate doesn’t seemed to have damaged him too much.

He can expect more tag-teaming at future debates, as the front leader.


6 posted on 09/17/2011 1:56:13 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Clairity

Perry has my vote so far, but things can change. Romney doesn’t talk about tort reform or have any meaningful history of attempting to tackle the subject.


7 posted on 09/17/2011 1:56:16 PM PDT by wrrock
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

8 posted on 09/17/2011 1:57:06 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: napscoordinator

“About the same time in the last election cycle here is where the GOP presidential contenders stood:

GIULIANI 34%

THOMPSON 23%

MCCAIN 16%

ROMNEY 9%”

Now:

“Rick Perry 23%
Mitt Romney 16
Newt Gingrich 7
Michele Bachmann 7”

I guess that means, by your “logic” that Gingrich or Bachmann will be the GOP nominee and how do you think they would do against Obama?


9 posted on 09/17/2011 1:57:48 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: napscoordinator

From the article:

“Of note, Sarah Palin’s net favorability rating is only +12 percent among Tea Party-supporting Republicans.”

Of note 35% of those polled expressed no preference at all, a number 50% more than Perry’s total of 23%.

This is far from over. Wonder why CBS decided not to post the results of the horserace numbers with Palin included. Perhaps they wouldn’t fit with their chosen headline.


10 posted on 09/17/2011 1:58:22 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Clairity

Even the ultra liberal cBS and the NY Slimes gives Perry the lead. Not bad.


11 posted on 09/17/2011 2:01:46 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Clairity

The Poll Data: Good - Bad- Ugly

Click for the questions, responses and standings in more detail..
12 posted on 09/17/2011 2:02:48 PM PDT by deport
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To: Clairity

Bump!


13 posted on 09/17/2011 2:03:44 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Clairity; napscoordinator
I guess that means, by your “logic” that Gingrich or Bachmann will be the GOP nominee and how do you think they would do against Obama

Yesterday's Rasmussen poll had your boy Perry down by seven to Bamy.

One of these days you will learn about the reliability of polls this far from an election.

14 posted on 09/17/2011 2:06:02 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: napscoordinator
however, I really really really hope that Palin will be the next President of the United States.

She's not running. She won't be the next President of the United States.

While I wouldn't trust a CBS/NY Times poll for much, compared to most of the other Republicans, Palin's numbers are simply atrocious.

In this and other polls Palin actually manages to even be viewed more negatively than positively among Republicans. And in this particular poll a majority of Republicans do not even want to see her be a major national political figure.

If Palin had just kept her job as Governor and stayed away from fluff Reality TV and spotlight hogging media appearances she might have been able to compete this time around. Which is why it's obvious she isn't running in 2012. Unless she is just getting horrible political advice, she had to know the path she's chosen would preclude her from a campaign this time around.

15 posted on 09/17/2011 2:06:15 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Clairity

This will ineluctably change soon.


16 posted on 09/17/2011 2:06:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Longbow1969
Palin's numbers are simply atrocious.

By all means, let's believe everything state-controlled media tells us and allow them to pick our candidate again and again and again and...

17 posted on 09/17/2011 2:08:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: FreeReign
Governor Palin is the turd in the Perry punch bowl. So I'm sure most of his supporters view her “favorably”. /s
18 posted on 09/17/2011 2:09:44 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Longbow1969

Don’t you know it isn’t polite to inject reality into folks’ Palin fantasies?


19 posted on 09/17/2011 2:15:22 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Kennedy, McCain, Perry - What's with D students and support for Amnesty?)
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To: Longbow1969
If Palin had just kept her job as Governor and stayed away from fluff Reality TV and spotlight hogging media appearances

You can't be serious. From February 2011 to August 2011 according to CNN her favorability rating increased. It has only been the last month since she has been shining the light on the Republican pretend conservatives have these alleged "negatives" begun to increase.

20 posted on 09/17/2011 2:15:57 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Longbow1969

Let’s hope she gets in, if for no other reason, than to pull the two RINO’s to the right. Perry is marginally better than Romney. which isn’t saying much.


21 posted on 09/17/2011 2:16:37 PM PDT by libertymaker
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Oh I would wager it is more then Perry supporters that now view her unfavorably.

Her sniping on the sidelines while plying this will she or won’t she game is annoying everyone but her most devoted of followers and if honest it’s annoying even some of them.

Far as the numbers Perry really doesn’t seem to be damaged among Republican primary voters but he has taken a hit in the general election numbers I assume because of Mitt’s mediscaring.


22 posted on 09/17/2011 2:18:00 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: libertymaker
There would be no discernable difference between a Perry and a Romney presidency.
23 posted on 09/17/2011 2:18:27 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: napscoordinator

Not quite sure what people mean by constantly posting this. McCain came from behind a LOST?! Okay, so let’s all pick up our marbles and go home....


24 posted on 09/17/2011 2:19:29 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Agreed.


25 posted on 09/17/2011 2:19:45 PM PDT by libertymaker
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To: gov_bean_ counter

You’re delusional.


26 posted on 09/17/2011 2:19:55 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Governor Palin is the turd in the Perry punch bowl.

I'm thinkin' you may want to reconsider the future use of that particular metaphor...jusayin'

27 posted on 09/17/2011 2:19:55 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Clairity

Ha ha.

Rick Perry is a Gore-derived Rove-controlled RINO
who is slightly more electable than Milt.

But the most electable, CONSERVATIVE is obviously
the talented, and beautiful, Gov. Palin.


28 posted on 09/17/2011 2:21:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
By all means, let's believe everything state-controlled media tells us and allow them to pick our candidate again and again and again and...

Are you really going to remain in a fantasy world forever? I mean, are you really going to continue trying to deny what virtually every poll shows? Palin's negatives are astronomically bad, and even majorities of Republicans in this and many polls view her negatively, have no interest in her running for president, and otherwise just want her to leave the stage for awhile?

The "state-controlled" media is not sneaking into just about every pollster's operations to rig Palin's numbers to show her in a negative light. It's one thing to argue (often correctly) that pollsters ask slanted questions or over sample Democrats, but these Palin results are direct questions to the Republican sample within the poll.

She's incredibly unpopular, get over it. Palin could maybe overcome being polarizing, as long as she had solid Republican support - but she doesn't even have that. This path she has chosen is not one that can lead to a successful presidential campaign in 2012. It's just not going to happen.

29 posted on 09/17/2011 2:21:55 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Tex-Con-Man

From your standpoint, yes she is.


30 posted on 09/17/2011 2:23:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Diogenesis

You must have missed my post 5:

Link to actual poll results:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2011/NYT_CBS_Republicans_0916.pdf

From the poll results statement:

“Sarah Palin receives her highest unfavorable rating (62%) in this poll since CBS News began asking about her in 2008. And for the first time, more Republicans now view her unfavorably than favorably.”

On page 4-5 of the poll:

View of Palin:

Among all registered voters: 20% fav, 62% unfav
Among Republican voters: 36% fave, 39% unfav
Among tea party: 44% fav, 32% unfav


31 posted on 09/17/2011 2:23:26 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Soul Seeker

I just happen to see your boy Perry for the fraud he is.


32 posted on 09/17/2011 2:23:47 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Longbow1969

“If Palin had just kept her job as Governor and stayed away from fluff Reality TV and spotlight hogging media appearances she might have been able to compete this time around. Which is why it’s obvious she isn’t running in 2012.”

Bingo. I totally agree. She should have served out her term. Immediately after leaving her position, she started touring the country on a book tour and suddenly appeared on FOX as a commentator. Looks opportunistic and a quick chance to cash in. Don’t blame her, but stay out of politics and stop leading on your supporters.


33 posted on 09/17/2011 2:23:55 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
By all means, let's believe everything state-controlled media tells us and allow them to pick our candidate again and again and again and...

Amazing isn't it.

Only a poll worshipper believes that we can change the country for the better by using state-controlled/state-paid-for polls as a "valuable" tool.

34 posted on 09/17/2011 2:26:30 PM PDT by FreeReign
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            Republican Views of Sarah Palin
              (among Republican voters)
              Now    6/2011    9/2010    7/2009   9/2008
Favorable     36%     37%       54%       39%      77%
Unfavorable   39      36        18        15        3
Undecided -    
Don’t know    25      25        27        44       19


 
Palin’s favorability among those who support the Tea Party
movement has dropped a bit as well, but more still view 
her positively than negatively. 

                  Tea Party Views of Sarah Palin
             (among voters who are Tea Party supporters)
                 Now      6/2011     9/2010
Favorable        44%        48%        62%
Unfavorable      32         27         16
Undecided -  
Don’t know       24         25         22

35 posted on 09/17/2011 2:26:40 PM PDT by deport
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To: Clairity

America is DONE with the DNC and RINOs.

NO More PerryCARE,
NO More RomneyCARE,
NO More ObamaCARE.

Sounds great!!


36 posted on 09/17/2011 2:28:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
From your standpoint, yes she is.

Sorry, bud, even if I were anti-Palin, which I'm not, I wouldn't refer to her in that manner.

It was all you. Own your idiotic use of language.

37 posted on 09/17/2011 2:32:27 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Clairity
Do you think any intelligent FReeper or American
believes a CBS New York Times poll?

Go back to DU.


38 posted on 09/17/2011 2:32:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Soul Seeker
Her sniping on the sidelines while plying this will she or won’t she game is annoying everyone but her most devoted of followers and if honest it’s annoying even some of them.

I'll tell you what's annoying, accusing somebody of "snipping from the sidelines".

I will point out to you that it is the job of every citizen in the country to constructively criticize the candidates who are in the race. That isn't something only reserved for the candidates in the race to do.

If Palin has constructive criticism, I don't give two poops if she does that from inside the race or from on the sidelines.

39 posted on 09/17/2011 2:36:02 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I agree. Romney may be a flip flopper, but he is not a blowhard phony like Perry. That said, any of the candidates would be better than what we have now. But whoever wins the support of Independents will win the election, and that person will not be Perry.


40 posted on 09/17/2011 2:36:09 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: napscoordinator
Hi naps. Good point in #3.

At that time, Milt Romney began his assault on the GOP;
first against the candidates, and later against the
GOP ticket (THAT IS THE REASON HE IS 'ENTITLED'?)

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."


"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

41 posted on 09/17/2011 2:39:33 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Soul Seeker

A lot of them are really ticked after being duped by yesterday’s stunt on The Bob & Mark Show. She could’ve avoided that fiasco with a simple tweet or post, but chose to let her supporters look like idiots.


42 posted on 09/17/2011 2:43:35 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Clairity

It has nothing to do with logic. It has to do with facts. Take the emotion out of it and see it for what it is. Facts don’t lie.


43 posted on 09/17/2011 2:49:00 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

NAPS coordinator? National Association of Postal Supervisors?


44 posted on 09/17/2011 2:49:10 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: TomGuy

I expect Newt to run interferance for Perry when he can.


45 posted on 09/17/2011 2:51:25 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Sounds to me that 50% is saying ABO and will let the others make the decision.


46 posted on 09/17/2011 2:53:10 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Longbow1969

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47 posted on 09/17/2011 2:54:49 PM PDT by GregB (Sarah Palin is the answer to our prayers!!!)
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To: Diogenesis

I’ve asked this question 100 times with no response. What in the friggin’ hell is PerryCare?


48 posted on 09/17/2011 2:55:01 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: DRey

NAPS coordinator? National Association of Postal Supervisors?

How brilliant. Now go pat yourself on the back............roll eyes.


49 posted on 09/17/2011 2:59:16 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Reagan Man
Of course, they wish to pick the one Obummer can beat, nothing new about that. Same old same old.
50 posted on 09/17/2011 3:01:07 PM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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